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2 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

Shoen knows this guy should have been playing. This should be an eye opener. 

 

ZMOG, Shoen is already outsmarting Beane!  I KNEW Beane was just a figurehead GM - INTO THE VOLCANO!! :beer:

 

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2 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Give it a rest.  Orchard Park isn't in Buffalo.  Both cities are pretty close to the football stadiums.  Also Met-Life is in East Rutherford.  

I live in NYC we don't consider any of NJ part of us. Also you are East trying to hard. You may not be aware but they are 2 different states. It's not a city thing 🤡🤡🤡

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4 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

I live in NYC we don't consider any of NJ part of us. Also you are East trying to hard. You may not be aware but they are 2 different states. It's not a city thing 🤡🤡🤡

Stop the BS!  You obviously don't get the concept of a metropolitan area.  Look it up Thurman. I'm a native of NYC, born in the Bronx grew up on L.I.    I know that northeastern NJ is part of the NYC metropolitan area, why don't you?  You can see Manhattan from East Rutherford.  There are tons of people who every day commute from NJ to NYC.   

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2 hours ago, FLFan said:

Yes.  There was a conspiracy of Beane and McD and the other coaches to keep Williams off the field although he was clearly superior to other options.  Schoen knows the truth!  Or it could be that Bills management knows better than the fans and that the Giants depth is no5 as Good so Williams has a better opportunity there.  

Are you off your meds or something? Have you never heard of a front office and coach disagreeing on a player? It's pretty common.

 

It's also funny because McDermott actually buried McKenzie all season this year and the one time he got to play when the team was forced to he absolutely torched NE. So yes, he buried another player that deserved to be out there. 

 

What's eye opening about this is the fact when he did play he was extremely effective,  noticeably more explosive than our other backs. We struggled at RB this year abs he could have helped many fans thought. Then Shoen's first day on the job he immediately goes and signs him.  Yes that is eye opening and the fans weren't just being ridiculous, kid has talent and Shoen obviously likes him a lot. 

 

Maybe the next coach there in NJ doesn't like him either.  But Shoen likes him enough to sign him first day on the job.

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24 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Stop the BS!  You obviously don't get the concept of a metropolitan area.  Look it up Thurman. I'm a native of NYC, born in the Bronx grew up on L.I.    I know that northeastern NJ is part of the NYC metropolitan area, why don't you?  You can see Manhattan from East Rutherford.  There are tons of people who every day commute from NJ to NYC.   

Conn. Is part of the metro area too can I see that from Manhattan? Sorry but they play in NJ not NY. Perhaps you think the dodgers should still be called the Brooklyn Dodgers as well. It's in an entirely different state.

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12 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

Conn. Is part of the metro area too can I see that from Manhattan? Sorry but they play in NJ not NY. Perhaps you think the dodgers should still be called the Brooklyn Dodgers as well. It's in an entirely different state.

Is your name Abdiell Suero?  You sure sound like him: 

Although the both teams operate in and represent the greater New York metropolitan area, the fact that the New York Giants and New York Jets have played in East Rutherford, N.J. for decades has been a point of contention for those whose pride resides on a certain side of the Hudson River.

 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/fan-sues-giants-jets-for-6-billion-demanding-both-teams-leave-new-jersey-and-play-home-games-in-new-york/

 

 

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36 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

Are you off your meds or something? Have you never heard of a front office and coach disagreeing on a player? It's pretty common.

 

It's also funny because McDermott actually buried McKenzie all season this year and the one time he got to play when the team was forced to he absolutely torched NE. So yes, he buried another player that deserved to be out there. 

 

What's eye opening about this is the fact when he did play he was extremely effective,  noticeably more explosive than our other backs. We struggled at RB this year abs he could have helped many fans thought. Then Shoen's first day on the job he immediately goes and signs him.  Yes that is eye opening and the fans weren't just being ridiculous, kid has talent and Shoen obviously likes him a lot. 

 

Maybe the next coach there in NJ doesn't like him either.  But Shoen likes him enough to sign him first day on the job.

No, I am not off my meds, just using my brain.

 

I am not sure what this conversation has to do with MacKenzie, but OK.  Clearly a whole different set of issues there, but sorry to confuse you.

 

The very last time Antonio Williams  played and was effective was the final game of the 2020 season against a Miami team that had clearly given up.  He was not productive in preseason this year and was not productive when he was active. He did not play because he is not very good.  Your opinion is half baked at best.  Do you have any actual facts to back up your half baked opinion?  

 

As far as signing him first day on the job, look around.  Every team  is signing their bottom of the roster, future practice squad guys at this time.  Every team. The bills are obviously moving on from a guy who has not been able to make an imact in spite of two years of opportunity.  Maybe he can impact the Giants, who are not remotely close to the Bills in terms of established talent.  The Bills will have plenty of new camp fodder for fans to drool over next year.

 

Now, if you have any rational argument to make to any of that, with actual facts not half baked opinions and insults, have at it.  

 

Otherwise, go rev up your black helicopter somewhere else.  

 

 

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Just now, FLFan said:

No, I am not off my meds, just using my brain.

 

I am not sure what this conversation has to do with MacKenzie, but OK.  Clearly a whole different set of issues there, but sorry to confuse you.

 

The very last time Antonio Williams  played and was effective was the final game of the 2020 season against a Miami team that had clearly given up.  He was not productive in preseason this year and was not productive when he was active. He did not play because he is not very good.  Your opinion is half baked at best.  Do you have any actual facts to back up your half baked opinion?  

 

As far as signing him first day on the job, look around.  Every team  is signing their bottom of the roster, future practice squad guys at this time.  Every team. The bills are obviously moving on from a guy who has not been able to make an imact in spite of two years of opportunity.  Maybe he can impact the Giants, who are not remotely close to the Bills in terms of established talent.  The Bills will have plenty of new camp fodder for fans to drool over next year.

 

Now, if you have any rational argument to make to any of that, with actual facts not half baked opinions and insults, have at it.  

 

Otherwise, go rev up your black helicopter somewhere else.  

 

 

The point of McKenzie is pretty obvious. You were mocking the fact that the coaching staff would not play a guy that should be playing.  And McKenzie is a prime example of a guy put in the dog house who should have been on the field. 

 

Williams has better size and measurables than both Moss and Singletary, that's a fact.  He looked noticeably explosive in 2020 as a result. He got 7 carries this preseason so don't act like he got a chance and failed.  

 

Fans wanted him to get a shot at a position of need.  He didn't get it. 

 

Our assistant GMs very first signing on his very first day was to get him. 

 

Yes, that's eye opening. It doesn't mean he's a star but it certainly means Shoen like him a lot much like the fans did and perhaps he didn't play because coach didn't like him... like McKenzie.

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1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Is your name Abdiell Suero?  You sure sound like him: 

Although the both teams operate in and represent the greater New York metropolitan area, the fact that the New York Giants and New York Jets have played in East Rutherford, N.J. for decades has been a point of contention for those whose pride resides on a certain side of the Hudson River.

 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/fan-sues-giants-jets-for-6-billion-demanding-both-teams-leave-new-jersey-and-play-home-games-in-new-york/

 

 

Operate and play are two different things. I'm well aware that the office is in NY so they can use the name for money, but if you think anyone in NYC thinks NJ is part of NY you need to put the bottle down. You should do it anyway cause you are drunk.

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10 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

Operate and play are two different things. I'm well aware that the office is in NY so they can use the name for money, but if you think anyone in NYC thinks NJ is part of NY you need to put the bottle down. You should do it anyway cause you are drunk.

I don't drink, fool.  NJ is considered part of the NY metro area and nothing you say or think will change that.  Of course NJ isn't part of the city, but you are seriously being obtuse.  

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51 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

I don't drink, fool.  NJ is considered part of the NY metro area and nothing you say or think will change that.  Of course NJ isn't part of the city, but you are seriously being obtuse.  

I'm a fool but you think NJ is part of NY. Notice how you keep saying NY metro area in place of Tri-state area which would prove my case.  Perhaps I'll start a poll to see if anyone else thinks they are separate states 🙄

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