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PFR - Josh Allen the most valuable player in the NFL (AV) in 2021


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One of the assumptions is that "the offensive line is exactly as good as the offense."

 

'Approximate Value' doesn't try to evaluate offensive lines.  Long story short, the methodology hurts Allen's rating because he's disadvantaged by a poor OL.  

 

Yet Allen still has the highest Approximate Value in the league.  

 

 

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I saw this yesterday. Thought it was pretty cool. 

 

His 19 AV this season is actually higher than his 18 AV last season.

 

I'll have to update my draft grades... it's tied to overall AV per class. Curious to see what it says about Beane's drafting after another seasons worth of results.

 

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(Posted this in the other thread talking about this)
 

"Created by PFR founder Doug Drinen, the Approximate Value (AV) method is an attempt to put a single number on the seasonal value of a player at any position from any year (since 1950)."

 

This link goes into everything: 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/index37a8.html

 

I think it is an interesting metric. I do think it is more valuable when looking at a player's career compared to just individual seasons.

 

Top AV Players in Bills History:

1- Bruce Smith (201)

2- Thurman Thomas (134)

3- Jim Kelly (132)

4- Andre Reed (132)

5- Kent Hull (109)

6- OJ Simpson (107)

 

Josh Allen is currently at 54 which ranks 44th in team history (not sure if it includes this season or not).

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/career-av.htm

 

I couldn't find a list of single season leaders in AV for the Bills, but 19 is really good. Bruce Smith only had 1 season higher than that (1996). Jim Kelly never had a season that high. Thurman Thomas has 3 seasons at 19 or better (1990 through 1992), OJ Simpson has 2, including an insane AV of 25 in 1975.

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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Not at all surprising

This is pretty amazing - Allen finished second (meaning least) after Brady in sack percentage. That is remarkable given the Bills line and the length of time he tends to hold the ball. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/passing.htm#passing::pass_sacked_perc

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12 minutes ago, MJS said:

(Posted this in the other thread talking about this)
 

"Created by PFR founder Doug Drinen, the Approximate Value (AV) method is an attempt to put a single number on the seasonal value of a player at any position from any year (since 1950)."

 

This link goes into everything: 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/index37a8.html

 

I think it is an interesting metric. I do think it is more valuable when looking at a player's career compared to just individual seasons.

 

Top AV Players in Bills History:

1- Bruce Smith (201)

2- Thurman Thomas (134)

3- Jim Kelly (132)

4- Andre Reed (132)

5- Kent Hull (109)

6- OJ Simpson (107)

 

Josh Allen is currently at 54 which ranks 44th in team history (not sure if it includes this season or not).

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/career-av.htm

 

I couldn't find a list of single season leaders in AV for the Bills, but 19 is really good. Bruce Smith only had 1 season higher than that (1996). Jim Kelly never had a season that high. Thurman Thomas has 3 seasons at 19 or better (1990 through 1992), OJ Simpson has 2, including an insane AV of 25 in 1975.

 

That has him for 61 games which would be the number of career regular season games in which he has appeared.

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20 minutes ago, Buffalo ill said:

I need to quit my day job and make a clickbait sports site with stats categories I randomly make up.

Maybe get a PhD in computational science first? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball-Reference.com (Baseball Reference is PFR's sister site and regarded by pretty much everyone as the gold standard for baseball stats.) 

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12 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

This is pretty amazing - Allen finished second (meaning least) after Brady in sack percentage. That is remarkable given the Bills line and the length of time he tends to hold the ball. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/passing.htm#passing::pass_sacked_perc

 

Yep. I think the only downside of this is I have seen a fair bit of "oline is fixed" type posting. It really isn't. All that has happened to my eye is Dion is back to being Dion and Josh is continuing to get away without being touched from what for any other QB is a clean sack.

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