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A Breakdown of the Failed Fake Punt vs the Buccaneers


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Saw a lot of people bashing the play design of the fake punt on here so I thought I'd break it down so everyone could see what the coaching staff saw. Coaches designed the fake so that we could get numbers to the offensive left side of the play. The backside (Center, Right Guard, and Right Tackle) are essentially blocking Power here (Center and Right Tackle block down while Right Guard pulls to wrap on the opposite side). To the playside they are zone over-take blocking which essentially means the Left Tackle and Left Guard are going to combo the Tackle until the Left Guard can overtake him and then the Left Tackle will work up to a 2nd level defender (the Sam in this case). The slot to the playside (Gilliam) is responsible for overtaking the End (get outside leverage and pin him back inside). Gilliam does a poor job of reaching the End and never does get outside leverage of him, but with a chip from the pulling Right Guard (Dodson) the play could have still been successful. What ultimately blew the play up was Matakevich and Giles-Harris actually do a really good job with their zone over-take. Matakevich has great positioning on the Tackle but then just lets him go and works to the second level (either there was a miscommunication on the combo or the timing of the play was off). Either way Matakevich has to stay on that block longer as the Tackle was ultimately the one who made the tackle on the play.

 

Overall the play design was sound vs what the Buccaneers were showing. If executed properly, we had numbers on the left side and should have easily been able to pick up the first down and likely a lot more.

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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

On first viewing it looked to me like Breida was at fault for getting tripped up so easily. He is fast but has zero contact balance.

I have still yet to see this "fast" on the field. Spiller was fast. Fast was when you were in the open, no one can catch you. This guy gets run down by a lineman on that play. He may be fast in shorts running a 40, but have not seen this on the field. Its been a major disappointment.

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I read that Breida hasn't lined up at the position on special teams at which he lined up for that play ALL SEASON LONG.

So yeah, seeing a guy who is not usually out there, on the field for the punt, at a spot on the field where defenses are on the alert for a fake anyway, would certainly be a massive tip of the hand to any opposing unit with decent intelligence. Just like putting Breida in the backfield on the fake QB sneak HB pitch in week 1 against the Steelers.

If you put a dude out there that's not usually out there, it's gonna be pretty hard to fool the defense.

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Nothing on film suggests they picked up that Breida was in the game (slow getting lined up, no one communicating or pointing, no one on the second level in a stance even). Regardless, it's not about fooling the defense with the personnel you put on the field. They could very well have known a fake was coming - they'd still have to stop it. It's a defensive play just like any other on 1st-3rd down. Every player has their assignment and executes it the same whether it's a punt or fake. The design of the fake was a solid one for the look they got from the Bucs.

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2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Whoever handed the ball off to Breida should've just kept it and continued right. He could've run open for days.

Incorrect, they overloaded that side. Would have been a sure tackle for loss.

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Just now, GoBills808 said:

I don't mind going for it there...I do mind taking the ball out of Allen's hands.

That's what I questioned as well.

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20 minutes ago, Logic said:

I read that Breida hasn't lined up at the position on special teams at which he lined up for that play ALL SEASON LONG.

So yeah, seeing a guy who is not usually out there, on the field for the punt, at a spot on the field where defenses are on the alert for a fake anyway, would certainly be a massive tip of the hand to any opposing unit with decent intelligence. Just like putting Breida in the backfield on the fake QB sneak HB pitch in week 1 against the Steelers.

If you put a dude out there that's not usually out there, it's gonna be pretty hard to fool the defense.

 

Just don't know why you don't let Allen try and get two yards either running or throwing it. 

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22 minutes ago, Logic said:

I read that Breida hasn't lined up at the position on special teams at which he lined up for that play ALL SEASON LONG.

So yeah, seeing a guy who is not usually out there, on the field for the punt, at a spot on the field where defenses are on the alert for a fake anyway, would certainly be a massive tip of the hand to any opposing unit with decent intelligence. Just like putting Breida in the backfield on the fake QB sneak HB pitch in week 1 against the Steelers.

If you put a dude out there that's not usually out there, it's gonna be pretty hard to fool the defense.

That was my EXACT thought when I saw he was out there. Did they really think they were fooling the Bucs?? Terrible.....

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13 minutes ago, Process said:

McDermott makes a lot of terrible in game decisions. This was definitely one of the worst we've seen. 

Would this be McDermott or Special teams coordinator play design? Does McDermott call the play or does he just say let's fake the punt and they have a play they call?🤔

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21 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Just don't know why you don't let Allen try and get two yards either running or throwing it. 


That's my complaint, too. If you've decided you're going for it, do you REALLY think a punt fake sweep to Breida has a better chance of getting two yards than letting Allen -- the best player on your roster -- run or throw it?

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2 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

Would this be McDermott or Special teams coordinator play design? Does McDermott call the play or does he just say let's fake the punt and they have a play they call?🤔

 

I don't hate the play design. I hate the decision to go for a fake punt on a 4th and 2 from the 45 down 24-3 in the 2nd half. Why go for a fake when the opponent is going to be on high alert watching for a fake?  Just run a play with the offense and leave it up to your $250 million QB (who is worth every penny) 

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3 minutes ago, Logic said:


That's my complaint, too. If you've decided you're going for it, do you REALLY think a punt fake sweep to Breida has a better chance of getting two yards than letting Allen -- the best player on your roster -- run or throw it?

 

Allen was the best player on the field in that game, on either team.

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