Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦

[Tiberius]

16 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

Good.  You've always got to be careful about clips like this though, as reassuring as they are.

 

I've got more than a feeling that Ukrainian losses are higher than they let on.  It's all anecdotal though.  Rolling Stone Reported on a Ukrainian Marine unit that's been in contact since Day 1. They've taken a real beating. Ukrainian Territorial Defense Units were thrown into the defense of Kyiv with little to no training.  Some Volunteers were simply handed gear and deployed.  Those units must have suffered terrible losses if they were attacked by Russia tank/mechanized units, or tried to do anything other than hold the places they were deployed. Luckily they had Russian incompetence and support from Ukraine's regular army units, that we now know are much better than anybody thought, but still.

 

 

Yup, first casualty of war is the truth. Will be interesting to see the after action reports of the war and see how accurate and truthful Uk has been. We know Uk civilians are suffering horrible losses and the troops likewise must also be. But this howitzers are really something. Winning the long range war means the shorter range stuff can move in, draw fire and then call in the sledge hammer of the big guns and clear out areas of resistance, at least in theory. 

 

 

[Tiberius]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Russia bombs Ukrainian school, dozens feared dead

 

https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2022/05/08/russia-bombs-ukrainian-school-dozens-feared-dead-n467799

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

 

[BillStime]

Putin apologists like this idiot thinks it is okay for a brutal, authoritarian to invade its neighbor.

 

 

[Coffeesforclosers]

20 hours ago, BillStime said:

Putin apologists like this idiot thinks it is okay for a brutal, authoritarian to invade its neighbor.

 

 

 

Yeah, for whatever reason, it's now ok for the Alt Right to sound like whiny college liberals.  There is no right or wrong, it's all just scams by the military-industrial complex!  Followed by a lot of SAT word salad so they come off edumucated and refined.  Because Cynicism has replaced real problem-solving.

 

In other news, Putin shocked the world by saying absolutely nothing new or escalatory during his May 9th address. I'm not being sarcastic about Putin for once. Fredo is still smart and he still wants respect.  Now I am.

 

Russia is openly fortifying Ukraine's border with Kursk Oblast, on account of they're afraid Ukraine may decide to counter-invade and seize Russian cities as bargaining chips. 

 

 

 

Edited May 9, 2022 by Coffeesforclosers

[Tiberius]

From the Washington post:

 

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense says that Russian forces are trying to develop their offensive in the Luhansk region with "continuous attempts to cross Siverski-Donetsk river near Belahorivka."

Col. Oleksandr Motuzyanyk, the spokesperson for the Defense Ministry, said the Russians had built three pontoon crossings across the river and were supporting ground troops with artillery and aircraft.

He said the Russians were aiming to cut off Lysychansk, a town on the frontlines some ten miles from one of the pontoon bridges identified on satellite imagery.

If successful, the Russian advance might be able to cut Ukrainian supply lines to the defenders of Lysychansk and Severodonetsk.

But images reviewed by CNN indicate that at least one pontoon bridge has already been destroyed, with ruined tanks and other equipment half-submerged in the river.

oops, that's cnn 

[Westside]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

From the Washington post:

 

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense says that Russian forces are trying to develop their offensive in the Luhansk region with "continuous attempts to cross Siverski-Donetsk river near Belahorivka."

Col. Oleksandr Motuzyanyk, the spokesperson for the Defense Ministry, said the Russians had built three pontoon crossings across the river and were supporting ground troops with artillery and aircraft.

He said the Russians were aiming to cut off Lysychansk, a town on the frontlines some ten miles from one of the pontoon bridges identified on satellite imagery.

If successful, the Russian advance might be able to cut Ukrainian supply lines to the defenders of Lysychansk and Severodonetsk.

But images reviewed by CNN indicate that at least one pontoon bridge has already been destroyed, with ruined tanks and other equipment half-submerged in the river.

oops, that's cnn 

CNN Hahahaha 

[Tiberius]

15 minutes ago, Westside said:

CNN Hahahaha 

They have actually done a pretty good job on the war. 

 

 

[BillStime]

 

[Tiberius]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Electric vehicles. 

 

In the same way Ronald Reagan threatened USSR with Star Wars technology, the oil barons and sheiks and royal scum are afraid of the green revolution taking place.

 

I bet if Trump were re-elected gas prices were begin falling real quick, and not for anything that dolt would do about it 

[sherpa]

8 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Electric vehicles. 

 

In the same way Ronald Reagan threatened USSR with Star Wars technology, the oil barons and sheiks and royal scum are afraid of the green revolution taking place.

 

I bet if Trump were re-elected gas prices were begin falling real quick, and not for anything that dolt would do about it 

 

Two points.

The move to non carbons is well underway and not stoppable.

 

The effect of Trump or anyone else, and I certainly hope it is someone else, being elected and influencing the price of oil would be the result of a change from the very foolish posture of creating an hostile environment for reasonable energy production and self reliance.

 

Biden has screwed this up in an undeniable fashion, from pipelines to oil terminal regulations, to governmental permit regulations and requiring idiotic governmental requirements from agencies like the SEC to have a cut on this,  and across the entire energy complex.

 

He, and many European leaders created this situation where the Russian thing had a far more impactful result than would have happened had reasonable policies from reasonable leadership prevailed.

[Tiberius]

9 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Two points.

The move to non carbons is well underway and not stoppable.

 

The effect of Trump or anyone else, and I certainly hope it is someone else, being elected and influencing the price of oil would be the result of a change from the very foolish posture of creating an hostile environment for reasonable energy production and self reliance.

 

Biden has screwed this up in an undeniable fashion, from pipelines to oil terminal regulations, to governmental permit regulations and requiring idiotic governmental requirements from agencies like the SEC to have a cut on this,  and across the entire energy complex.

 

He, and many European leaders created this situation where the Russian thing had a far more impactful result than would have happened had reasonable policies from reasonable leadership prevailed.

Can you back up the point that the gas prices are Biden's fault? Links and such? 

[sherpa]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Can you back up the point that the gas prices are Biden's fault? Links and such? 

 

This is the kind of juvenile response you are known for, on many different issues.

 

The oil market is an international commodity, and a good deal of the price of crude is based on "atmosphere."

 

Throughout the years, it has been estimated that about 20% of the price is completely emotional.

 

When you have the president of the United States enacting legislation on day one, and many follow ups that is hostile to domestic production, you are going to dramatically effect a number of things.

Not just direct production, which is untenable, but the motivation for future capex to develop additional production.

 

There is a massive disincentive to produce, as the costs and time to get to market are high risk.

 

It is an illusory argument to claim that this administration, and many European ones, have not sown the seed of this idiotic and unnecessary rise in crude. 

 

They got exactly what they deserved.

 

[BillStime]

20 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Can you back up the point that the gas prices are Biden's fault? Links and such? 

 

5 minutes ago, sherpa said:

This is the kind of juvenile response you are known for, on many different issues.

 

Tibs, have you noticed the cult always responds leading with THIS when they can't back it up...

 

smfh

[Tiberius]

9 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

Tibs, have you noticed the cult always responds leading with THIS when they can't back it up...

 

smfh

Yup, arrogance backed up by ignorance. They are told they are superior people. The rest of us just don't see it and ask for clarification which leads to them getting frustrated and they start throwing insults. 

 

smh 

19 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

This is the kind of juvenile response you are known for, on many different issues.

 

The oil market is an international commodity, and a good deal of the price of crude is based on "atmosphere."

 

Throughout the years, it has been estimated that about 20% of the price is completely emotional.

 

When you have the president of the United States enacting legislation on day one, and many follow ups that is hostile to domestic production, you are going to dramatically effect a number of things.

Not just direct production, which is untenable, but the motivation for future capex to develop additional production.

 

There is a massive disincentive to produce, as the costs and time to get to market are high risk.

 

It is an illusory argument to claim that this administration, and many European ones, have not sown the seed of this idiotic and unnecessary rise in crude. 

 

They got exactly what they deserved.

 

So, no, then? Correct? 

[Tiberius]

 

[sherpa]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

 

Tibs, have you noticed the cult always responds leading with THIS when they can't back it up...

 

smfh

 

Your head is not worth shaking.

 

The "cult?"

I am a member of a "cult?

Day after day, week after week, month after month, responsible leader of the energy industry talk about this, but I doubt you guys are even aware of it.

Instead, having created the atmosphere that Biden and the anti energy group that supports him has done, and seeing the predictable reaction, you complain about the Saudis not ramping up production.

 

It's always someone else.

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Can you back up the point that the gas prices are Biden's fault? Links and such? 

Well, cancelling Keystone on day one comes to mind which would have provided 800+K BBL/Day of input to Gulf Coast refineries.  From which product pipelines move finished product up the East Coast to mid-Atlantic and New England states.  Where there happens to be a Diesel fuel shortage which by chance the Canadian oil sands heavier grade is perfectly suited to produce.     

 

I think all of this is pretty well known so are "links" necessary?  Its a matter of record that Biden did cancel Keystone. 800K is the approximately the baseline throughput of the pipeline, gulf refineries are configured to process heavier crude, the Colonial pipeline and others do exist, and oil sands grade is of the heavier variety, and keeping that oil from coming to market supports higher prices of crude and refined products. 

 

Edited May 9, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills

[BillsFanNC]

 

[ALF]

Russian ambassador to Poland doused with red paint while trying to celebrate Putin's 'Victory Day'
Sergey Andreev was attempting to lay flowers at a World War 2-era Soviet cemetery

 

https://www.foxnews.com/world/russian-poland-doused-red-paint-celebrate-putins-victory-day

[B-Man]

 

 In the Ukraine Proxy War, What Price Victory?

 

FTA:

 

The bigger, more important question, however, is this: why are the Clinton-Obama-Biden Democrats trying to make the conflict in the Ukraine into a proxy war against Russia? Why, knowing of Putin's increasing desperation to finish the job, have they given him no diplomatic way out? Why instead have they pushed an obsolete NATO right up to his borders, when if there's one thing that makes Russians crazy it's territorial encroachment from the west? Just ask Napoleon how that worked out for him.

 

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization won its war against the U.S.S.R. at the end of 1991 when the Soviet Union was dissolved on Christmas Day. Accordingly, it has no further reason for existence and should have been dissolved itself decades ago. As Eisenhower, the Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force in Europe, reported to the combined Allied chiefs of staff upon General Jodl's surrender: "The mission of this Allied Force was fulfilled at 0241, local time, May 7th, 1945."   Short and sweet.

But don't forget the exception to every rule: a bureaucracy, especially the demon child of the military-industrial complex, will never willingly commit suicide. And so NATO has staggered on, expanding rather than contracting, waving the Russian flag as a kind of bogeyman/talisman in order to keep its coffers full and its officers well-fed.

 

The fact is that the Russians -- the Democrats' favorite allies right up to the minute they cast off Communism! -- needed to be maintained as a threat. And so, in the direct aftermath of her 2016 election loss, Hillary Clinton and her flying monkeys in the media concocted the so-called "Russian collusion" hoax, which is only just beginning to finally unravel in the courts now. 

 

In the meantime, the Biden forces, hell-bent on finishing the job of "fundamental transformation" of the country that Barack Hussein Obama was just too lazy to complete, are doing everything they can to provoke a shooting war with Putin's Russia. "A weakened Russia" is one of the administration's explicit goals, as the current secretary of defense, Lloyd Austin, has declared. And while the administration has denied it, it does appear that the U.S. has been sharing intelligence regarding the targeting of Russian military commanders and other high-value targets -- which is an overt act of war and no doubt is regarded as such by Putin and his officers. And that is very dangerous, especially since they have nowhere else to go.

 

America is now flirting with disaster as it engages with a wounded, nuclear-armed bear that won't hesitate to use theater or tactical nukes if it feels an existential threat. And why wouldn't it? It's seen this movie before. Even Jill Biden is currently kicking sand in Putin's face. Meanwhile, here at home, the U.S. is cratering almost as surely as the Soviet Union, riven by irreconcilable domestic moral and political differences; all of its principal constitutional edifices under attack by the Left, including the Supreme Court; the economy circling the drain; the supply chain thoroughly disrupted by an outrageous medical alarum bordering on a malignant hoax; our woke military emasculated; and our civic faith in almost every institution destroyed. Meanwhile, a gerontological elite that rivals in its longevity the Struldbruggs in Swift's Gulliver's Travels continues to heedlessly shuffle its way toward disaster.

 

So what will it take to bring America to either its senses or its knees? What does victory look like in this pointless war? In 1945 Soviet soldiers waved the hammer and sickle over the ruins of Berlin. In 1989, I stood at the crumbling Wall between the Brandenburg Gate and the Reichstag, and somehow wound up with some Grepo's cap as a souvenir. Luckily, the Cold War never quite turned hot. But if this war -- Biden's War -- goes nuclear, what will be left to grasp? A handful of radioactive dust? Pray that somebody in Washington comes to his senses, and soon -- but don't count on it.

 

https://the-pipeline.org/the-column-in-the-ukraine-proxy-war-what-price-victory/

[PetermansRedemption]

How much is too much? Do we just keep giving to Ukraine until Putin leaves. I understand an initial round of weapons, but an indefinite check seems awfully fiscally irresponsible. 

[Big Blitz]

Has the ordeal been resolved yet?

[Coffeesforclosers]

1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said:

How much is too much? Do we just keep giving to Ukraine until Putin leaves. 

 

Sounds like a great idea. 

[Warcodered]

8 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 In the Ukraine Proxy War, What Price Victory?

 

FTA:

 

The bigger, more important question, however, is this: why are the Clinton-Obama-Biden Democrats trying to make the conflict in the Ukraine into a proxy war against Russia? Why, knowing of Putin's increasing desperation to finish the job, have they given him no diplomatic way out? Why instead have they pushed an obsolete NATO right up to his borders, when if there's one thing that makes Russians crazy it's territorial encroachment from the west? Just ask Napoleon how that worked out for him.

 

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization won its war against the U.S.S.R. at the end of 1991 when the Soviet Union was dissolved on Christmas Day. Accordingly, it has no further reason for existence and should have been dissolved itself decades ago. As Eisenhower, the Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force in Europe, reported to the combined Allied chiefs of staff upon General Jodl's surrender: "The mission of this Allied Force was fulfilled at 0241, local time, May 7th, 1945."   Short and sweet.

But don't forget the exception to every rule: a bureaucracy, especially the demon child of the military-industrial complex, will never willingly commit suicide. And so NATO has staggered on, expanding rather than contracting, waving the Russian flag as a kind of bogeyman/talisman in order to keep its coffers full and its officers well-fed.

 

The fact is that the Russians -- the Democrats' favorite allies right up to the minute they cast off Communism! -- needed to be maintained as a threat. And so, in the direct aftermath of her 2016 election loss, Hillary Clinton and her flying monkeys in the media concocted the so-called "Russian collusion" hoax, which is only just beginning to finally unravel in the courts now. 

 

In the meantime, the Biden forces, hell-bent on finishing the job of "fundamental transformation" of the country that Barack Hussein Obama was just too lazy to complete, are doing everything they can to provoke a shooting war with Putin's Russia. "A weakened Russia" is one of the administration's explicit goals, as the current secretary of defense, Lloyd Austin, has declared. And while the administration has denied it, it does appear that the U.S. has been sharing intelligence regarding the targeting of Russian military commanders and other high-value targets -- which is an overt act of war and no doubt is regarded as such by Putin and his officers. And that is very dangerous, especially since they have nowhere else to go.

 

America is now flirting with disaster as it engages with a wounded, nuclear-armed bear that won't hesitate to use theater or tactical nukes if it feels an existential threat. And why wouldn't it? It's seen this movie before. Even Jill Biden is currently kicking sand in Putin's face. Meanwhile, here at home, the U.S. is cratering almost as surely as the Soviet Union, riven by irreconcilable domestic moral and political differences; all of its principal constitutional edifices under attack by the Left, including the Supreme Court; the economy circling the drain; the supply chain thoroughly disrupted by an outrageous medical alarum bordering on a malignant hoax; our woke military emasculated; and our civic faith in almost every institution destroyed. Meanwhile, a gerontological elite that rivals in its longevity the Struldbruggs in Swift's Gulliver's Travels continues to heedlessly shuffle its way toward disaster.

 

So what will it take to bring America to either its senses or its knees? What does victory look like in this pointless war? In 1945 Soviet soldiers waved the hammer and sickle over the ruins of Berlin. In 1989, I stood at the crumbling Wall between the Brandenburg Gate and the Reichstag, and somehow wound up with some Grepo's cap as a souvenir. Luckily, the Cold War never quite turned hot. But if this war -- Biden's War -- goes nuclear, what will be left to grasp? A handful of radioactive dust? Pray that somebody in Washington comes to his senses, and soon -- but don't count on it.

 

https://the-pipeline.org/the-column-in-the-ukraine-proxy-war-what-price-victory/

What a heaping pile of horse-*****.

[Tiberius]

15 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 In the Ukraine Proxy War, What Price Victory?

 

FTA:

 

The bigger, more important question, however, is this: why are the Clinton-Obama-Biden Democrats trying to make the conflict in the Ukraine into a proxy war against Russia? Why, knowing of Putin's increasing desperation to finish the job, have they given him no diplomatic way out? Why instead have they pushed an obsolete NATO right up to his borders, when if there's one thing that makes Russians crazy it's territorial encroachment from the west? Just ask Napoleon how that worked out for him.

 

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization won its war against the U.S.S.R. at the end of 1991 when the Soviet Union was dissolved on Christmas Day. Accordingly, it has no further reason for existence and should have been dissolved itself decades ago. As Eisenhower, the Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force in Europe, reported to the combined Allied chiefs of staff upon General Jodl's surrender: "The mission of this Allied Force was fulfilled at 0241, local time, May 7th, 1945."   Short and sweet.

But don't forget the exception to every rule: a bureaucracy, especially the demon child of the military-industrial complex, will never willingly commit suicide. And so NATO has staggered on, expanding rather than contracting, waving the Russian flag as a kind of bogeyman/talisman in order to keep its coffers full and its officers well-fed.

 

The fact is that the Russians -- the Democrats' favorite allies right up to the minute they cast off Communism! -- needed to be maintained as a threat. And so, in the direct aftermath of her 2016 election loss, Hillary Clinton and her flying monkeys in the media concocted the so-called "Russian collusion" hoax, which is only just beginning to finally unravel in the courts now. 

 

In the meantime, the Biden forces, hell-bent on finishing the job of "fundamental transformation" of the country that Barack Hussein Obama was just too lazy to complete, are doing everything they can to provoke a shooting war with Putin's Russia. "A weakened Russia" is one of the administration's explicit goals, as the current secretary of defense, Lloyd Austin, has declared. And while the administration has denied it, it does appear that the U.S. has been sharing intelligence regarding the targeting of Russian military commanders and other high-value targets -- which is an overt act of war and no doubt is regarded as such by Putin and his officers. And that is very dangerous, especially since they have nowhere else to go.

 

America is now flirting with disaster as it engages with a wounded, nuclear-armed bear that won't hesitate to use theater or tactical nukes if it feels an existential threat. And why wouldn't it? It's seen this movie before. Even Jill Biden is currently kicking sand in Putin's face. Meanwhile, here at home, the U.S. is cratering almost as surely as the Soviet Union, riven by irreconcilable domestic moral and political differences; all of its principal constitutional edifices under attack by the Left, including the Supreme Court; the economy circling the drain; the supply chain thoroughly disrupted by an outrageous medical alarum bordering on a malignant hoax; our woke military emasculated; and our civic faith in almost every institution destroyed. Meanwhile, a gerontological elite that rivals in its longevity the Struldbruggs in Swift's Gulliver's Travels continues to heedlessly shuffle its way toward disaster.

 

So what will it take to bring America to either its senses or its knees? What does victory look like in this pointless war? In 1945 Soviet soldiers waved the hammer and sickle over the ruins of Berlin. In 1989, I stood at the crumbling Wall between the Brandenburg Gate and the Reichstag, and somehow wound up with some Grepo's cap as a souvenir. Luckily, the Cold War never quite turned hot. But if this war -- Biden's War -- goes nuclear, what will be left to grasp? A handful of radioactive dust? Pray that somebody in Washington comes to his senses, and soon -- but don't count on it.

 

https://the-pipeline.org/the-column-in-the-ukraine-proxy-war-what-price-victory/

So he is worried Democrats will get a big foreign policy win out of this? We will have to see going forward how hard those who hate NATO push this narrative to let Ukraine be wiped off the map and their people either murdered or "re-educated." 

 

And he thinks the United States is in the position now that the Soviet Union was in 1990? Ha ha, this guy is nothing but a tool. You have to wonder who is paying this guy. 

[B-Man]

 

 

Russia "pounding" Odesa while more war crimes are discovered

 

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/05/10/russia-pounding-odesa-while-more-war-crimes-are-discovered-n468190

 

 

[Coffeesforclosers]

54 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So he is worried Democrats will get a big foreign policy win out of this? We will have to see going forward how hard those who hate NATO push this narrative to let Ukraine be wiped off the map and their people either murdered or "re-educated." 

 

And he thinks the United States is in the position now that the Soviet Union was in 1990? Ha ha, this guy is nothing but a tool. You have to wonder who is paying this guy. 

 

Anyone who refers to people they disagree with as "The Left" or "The Right" is waving a big, red flag.  It's warning you that their primary identity is political, and I'm ***** sick of the politics of part of the country trying to conquer the other part through the ballot box and pooping on the constitution.

[Tiberius]

 

[ALF]

20 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said:

How much is too much? Do we just keep giving to Ukraine until Putin leaves. I understand an initial round of weapons, but an indefinite check seems awfully fiscally irresponsible. 

 

Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances

The memorandum prohibited the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, "except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations." As a result of other agreements and the memorandum, between 1993 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances

 

Russia first broke this agreement in 2014 by invading and taking Crimea

 

In 2014, Russia annexed the peninsula and established two federal subjects there, Republic of Crimea and the federal city of Sevastopol, but the territories are still internationally recognized as being part of Ukraine.

[Tiberius]

 

[ALF]

The Budapest Memorandum and U.S. Obligations
Steven Pifer Thursday, December 4, 2014

 

December 5 marks the 20th anniversary of the signing of the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances for Ukraine. Russia has grossly violated the commitments it made in that document. That imposes an obligation on Washington to support Ukraine and push back against Russia. This is not just a matter of living up to U.S. obligations. It is also about preserving the credibility of security assurances, which could contribute to preventing nuclear proliferation in the future.

 

When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, nuclear arms lay in sites scattered across the former Soviet republics. Ukraine inherited the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world, including some 1,900 strategic nuclear weapons designed to strike the United States.

 

Nothing in the post-Soviet space commanded more attention from the Bush 41 and Clinton administrations than making sure that the Soviet Union’s demise did not increase the number of nuclear-armed states. 

 

A key element of the arrangement—many Ukrainians would say the key element—was the readiness of the United States and Russia, joined by Britain, to provide security assurances. The Budapest memorandum committed Washington, Moscow and London, among other things, to “respect the independence and sovereignty and existing borders of Ukraine” and to “refrain from the threat or use of force” against that country.

 

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2014/12/04/the-budapest-memorandum-and-u-s-obligations/

[B-Man]

 

 

Good news.

 

Russia Suspends Most Offensive Operations in Reaction to Ukraine's Surprising Counteroffensive

 

https://redstate.com/streiff/2022/05/11/russia-suspends-most-offensive-operations-in-reaction-to-ukraines-surprising-counteroffensive-n563061

 

 

[Tiberius]

 

[Tiberius]

 

[Tiberius]

Interesting about Snake Island. Such an important place

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukraine-in-fierce-battle-to-retake-snake-island-879smdg32?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1652275732-1

[BillStime]

 

[Tiberius]

 

[Warcodered]