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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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29 minutes ago, Doc said:

It's more like the scenes in The Godfather, where they're baptizing Michael's son while the mobsters are getting whacked.

 

 

While appreciating your point Doc, I cannot help but point out that they were baptizing Connie and Carlo's baby.

That made Michael his Godfather.

 

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8 minutes ago, B-Man said:

While appreciating your point Doc, I cannot help but point out that they were baptizing Connie and Carlo's baby.

That made Michael his Godfather.

 

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D'oh!  My bad.

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48 minutes ago, Doc said:

It's more like the scenes in The Godfather, where they're baptizing Michael's son while the mobsters are getting whacked.

My mistake, you are right and I thought about that after posting. But my dark knight comment was directed at coffees post above it. Russia failing more and claiming it is invincible 

 

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18 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

My mistake, you are right and I thought about that after posting. But my dark knight comment was directed at coffees post above it. Russia failing more and claiming it is invincible 

 

 

No worries.  I always like a good Monty Python reference.

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On 4/23/2022 at 10:18 AM, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

Man, it's like Russia is going through all the stages of the Vietnam experience in fast forward.

 

There's growing chatter that May 9th will be Russia's formal declaration of war against Ukraine instead of the big victory celebration.  The much vaunted offensive in the Donbass is doing what everyone though it would so far, which is gain ground here and there and achieve very, very little.

 

Now if Russia is going to declare war on May 9th, expect some kind of insane gesture to try and "reset" the situation.  Like Russia also declaring war on Finland or Sweden, or the Baltics.  Quite possibly on us, so they can have a life-or-death "struggle for survival" that's entirely of their own making, due to their own stupidity.

Or, like stages of their conflict in Afghanistan. Which goes to the unrealistic expectations of Russia, the media, or both. This is quite the David Vs Goliath fight. But, this is why I always questioned those reports that Russia was expecting victory in a week, three weeks, etc. Ukraine was always going to put up a far larger fight than Afghanistan could, did they not learn from their history? 

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Just now, PetermansRedemption said:

Or, like stages of their conflict in Afghanistan. Which goes to the unrealistic expectations of Russia, the media, or both. This is quite the David Vs Goliath fight. But, this is why I always questioned those reports that Russia was expecting victory in a week, three weeks, etc. Ukraine was always going to put up a far larger fight than Afghanistan could, did they not learn from their history? 

 

Delusions of grandeur. 

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'You can't come to us empty-handed today': Zelensky tells Anthony Blinken and Lloyd Austin in visit to Ukraine that he needs 'specific weapons' from the US

 

Associated Press, by Natasha Anderson

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10747661/Steel-plant-siege-Zelenskyy-prepares-US-officials.html

 

 

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6 hours ago, Tiberius said:

 

 

 

"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them"-Sir Arthur Harris

 

"There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare"-Sun Tzu

 

Man, all those deals full of Ukrainian concessions that Russia left on the table a month ago so they could get their Short Victorious War...

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On NewsNation  Banfield , speculation that Putin has a serious illness. Seeing cancer and throat specialists. WH won't allow sanctions against his mistress now in Switzerland who has 3 children with him and is 30 years younger. They fear that could set him off.  fwiw

 

Sanctioning Putin's rumored girlfriend Alina Kabaeva would deal a heavy blow to the Russian leader: Expert

U.S. officials reportedly decided against sanctioning the 38-year-old Russian gymnast and Olympic gold medalist Kabaeva citing concerns that it was too drastic, the Wall Street Journal reported Sunday.

 

"Unfortunately, she is not capable of stopping Putin from waging war on Ukraine. But, it will certainly hurt," Koffler said. "It will make her life miserable, and it will definitely, definitely [cause] some damage to his holdings, his wealth that is stashed away in all kinds of tax havens including spread among his relatives and family."

 

Koffler said the reasoning for U.S. officials not to sanction Kabaeva – who is believed to be the mother of at least three of Putin's children – makes "no sense."

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/sanctioning-putins-girlfriend-alina-kabaeva-rebekah-koffler

 

Vladimir Putin Health Speculation Intensifies After New Video Emerges

https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-russia-health-viral-video-latest-parkinsons-cancer-1700445

 

Russia is accused of FAKING Putin's Easter service visit by ‘using old pictures from 2021’ amid mounting questions over his health

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10750825/Russia-accused-FAKING-Putins-Easter-service-visit.html

 

Putin appears unsteady during church service as illness rumors mount

New footage of Vladimir Putin appearing unsteady, fidgeting and biting his lips during an Orthodox Easter service in Moscow on Sunday has added to suspicions that the Russian leader is seriously ill.

 

The frail-looking strongman is seen swaying during the Mass conducted by the Russian Orthodox Church, which has strongly backed its leader’s so-called “special military operation” in Ukraine.

 

https://nypost.com/2022/04/25/putin-appears-fidgety-at-church-service-during-illness-rumors/

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 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, April 25. 

 

“Russian forces conducted precision missile strikes against five Ukrainian railway stations in central and western Ukraine on April 25 in a likely effort to disrupt Ukrainian reinforcements to eastern Ukraine and Western aid shipments. A series of likely coordinated Russian missile strikes conducted within an hour of one another early on April 25 hit critical transportation infrastructure in Vinnytsia, Poltava, Khmelnytskyi, Rivne, and Zhytomyr oblasts.[1]

 

Russian forces seek to disrupt Ukrainian reinforcements and logistics. The Kremlin may have additionally conducted this series of strikes—an abnormal number of precision missile strikes for one day—to demonstrate Russia’s ability to hit targets in Western Ukraine and to disrupt western aid shipments after US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and US Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s surprise visit to Kyiv over the weekend. However, Russian precision strike capabilities will remain limited and unlikely to decisively affect the course of the war; open-source research organization Bellingcat reported on April 24 that Russia has likely used 70% of its total stockpile of precision missiles to date.”

 

 

Much more at the link, but it sure looks like everybody is settling in for a long war.

 

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-april-25

 

 

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It seems to me that the single most effective way to prove you should not be taken seriously, and your views should be disregarded, is to suggest that anyone of any Congressional stature supports Putin.

It is a self proclamation of gross political idiocy.

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9 minutes ago, sherpa said:

It seems to me that the single most effective way to prove you should not be taken seriously, and your views should be disregarded, is to suggest that anyone of any Congressional stature supports Putin.

It is a self proclamation of gross political idiocy.

 

Oh. Ok.

 

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Just now, sherpa said:

 

You seem to think you know a lot of what other's think.

When they tell me, it kind of helps. 

5 minutes ago, Westside said:

I bet Rand Paul refused to sell uranium to putin!

You and him should go live in Putin’s Russia. You two would be happy 

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25 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

When they tell me, it kind of helps. 

You and him should go live in Putin’s Russia. You two would be happy 

You support clinton who sold nuclear grade uranium to putin and you call me a putin supporter?

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