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So all these NFL players only know they have it because they test everyday or however many times a week.  

 

 

Meaning by the time they are told to go home they've been spreading it around for likely days........like 100s of millions of people around the world every day who will never get tested.  

 

So stupid.  

 

 

 

When you get down to it I think they're just incapable of saying "it's time to sack up and live with it."

 

That's too toxically masculine or something. 

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Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

Well if you think something relatively innocuous like being required to wear a mask is a horrific intrusion on your freedoms, yes. 

If it only ended there you might have a point. But you know it would never end there. Next thing you know your health insurance is canceled because you are not wearing a mask in public. Or maybe you will be fired by your woke company for not towing the line?

 

It won’t end with just wearing a mask.

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You were duped and every single one of you should be livid.  

 

 

 

 

They intimidated and allowed their members to be shamed over a vaccine that never ever did what they sold it as - and everyone believed what they were selling it as. 

 

They thought it would slowly eradicate the virus.  That's what everyone thought we were doing.  "For the greater good."

 

No it's a vaccine that lessens your chance of dying.  Apparently.  So celebrate the medical scientific marvel it is and live your lives maskless and free. 

 

Like they've been doing in Florida since March 2020.  

 

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Real quick data analysis

 

 

Michigan: 9 million people

 

Michigan (lockdown hole) now at 2750 deaths per million 

 

27,000

 

Florida (world's last best hope) is at 2890

 

61,000

 

Over twice the population - and the math is the same.  

 

 

 

You keep telling yourself these state mandates you think keep you safe at Kohls do anything.  

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1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Well if you think something relatively innocuous like being required to wear a mask is a horrific intrusion on your freedoms, yes. 


Horrific intrusion on my freedoms?  Good lord dude.  Where the ***** did that come from??
 

Now back to my question you so conveniently sidestepped. Why do you feel masking up children is necessary?  

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23 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


Horrific intrusion on my freedoms?  Good lord dude.  Where the ***** did that come from??
 

Now back to my question you so conveniently sidestepped. Why do you feel masking up children is necessary?  

Well, you guys are the ones all worked up about masks. So if they're not a horrific intrusion on your freedoms, I'm not sure why you incessantly post about masks.

 

I didn't say I believed "masking up children is necessary." In fact, I think in most places and times it isn't. It's probably overall a bad idea.

 

But a "bad idea" or "bad policy" isn't exactly a new thing. Again, on the grand scale of things, it's just not that big a deal. Elected governments and their appointed officers decide that public health is best served by requiring masks. So what? Vote for someone else to be on your school board. Where I live that's exactly what happened - a Colorado school board was basically tossed out because (wait for it ....) the parents were all worked up about a mask requirement. Chef Jim, I imagine at one point or another you were required to wear a chef hat in your commercial kitchens. So ... why wasn't that the WORST THING EVER?

 

The level of paranoia about this is just idiotic. It's a policy decision, one that is made as part of a public healthy cost/benefit calculation, that you may think is warranted or unwarranted. Just like hundreds of other policy decisions. Yet this one is part of some diabolical scheme to ... to what? Same with vaccine mandates. A public choice. I needed vaccines to go to school. My kids needed vaccines to go to school. Now all of a sudden it's akin to a satanic plot to require a vaccine.

 

People need to grow up.

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12 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Well, you guys are the ones all worked up about masks. So if they're not a horrific intrusion on your freedoms, I'm not sure why you incessantly post about masks.

 

I didn't say I believed "masking up children is necessary." In fact, I think in most places and times it isn't. It's probably overall a bad idea.

 

 

 

 

Being in masks means there is something to fear.  They got you at this point.    

 

When there is something to fear idiots will look to the State to fix it.  

 

The State's version of fixing it is not what you think it is and all the interests involved.   

 

They are already going to limit capacity in Ontario as you saw.  

 

These are power grabs.  If they sense enough voters are good with the *safety* they bring, they'll run on it.  The other side clearly wants you dead.  

 

None of this is science.  

 

None of this is necessary.  

 

None of this is for a "greater good."  My greater good is my family.  Not yours.  

 

It's doing nothing but creating more division and more harm - especially ya know, since they don't work.  

 

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8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Being in masks means there is something to fear.  They got you at this point.    

 

When there is something to fear idiots will look to the State to fix it.  

 

The State's version of fixing it is not what you think it is and all the interests involved.   

 

They are already going to limit capacity in Ontario as you saw.  

 

These are power grabs.  If they sense enough voters are good with the *safety* they bring, they'll run on it.  The other side clearly wants you dead.  

 

None of this is science.  

 

None of this is necessary.  

 

None of this is for a "greater good."  My greater good is my family.  Not yours.  

 

It's doing nothing but creating more division and more harm - especially ya know, since they don't work.  

 


they work

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19 minutes ago, BillStime said:


keep advocating the death of your fellow Americans you pos

 

 

Ahhhh......too much logic and data to wrap your tiny brain around Billy?  Struck a nerve debunking the mask save lives myth that you need to justify the insanity?  

 

Sad!  

 

Maybe you should stick to your Trump witch hunt threads literally no one cares about and got your Communist party some solid results in November.

 

Solid meaning *** kicked.  The party message of "Trump insurrectionists bad" is clearly resonating with the broke American people. 

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3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Well if you think something relatively innocuous like being required to wear a mask is a horrific intrusion on your freedoms, yes. 

Being forced to cover ones face/ nose/ mouth for the privilege of walking around in a public is not innocuous to me. It’s a horrific intrusion . 

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3 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Being forced to cover ones face/ nose/ mouth for the privilege of walking around in a public is not innocuous to me. It’s a horrific intrusion . 

I remember being forced to wear a seatbelt while driving around in public was all the outrage.  Just vote the people who push for mask mandates out.  It's really the only way.

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8 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Ahhhh......too much logic and data to wrap your tiny brain around Billy?  Struck a nerve debunking the mask save lives myth that you need to justify the insanity?  

 

Sad!  

 

Maybe you should stick to your Trump witch hunt threads literally no one cares about and got your Communist party some solid results in November.

 

Solid meaning *** kicked.  The party message of "Trump insurrectionists bad" is clearly resonating with the broke American people. 

 

Awe, I struck a nerve... too bad.  

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8 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Being forced to cover ones face/ nose/ mouth for the privilege of walking around in a public is not innocuous to me. It’s a horrific intrusion . 

 

You must really hate wearing clothes in public too. 

 

Cry harder.

 

 

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10 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Well, you guys are the ones all worked up about masks. So if they're not a horrific intrusion on your freedoms, I'm not sure why you incessantly post about masks.

 

I didn't say I believed "masking up children is necessary." In fact, I think in most places and times it isn't. It's probably overall a bad idea.

 

But a "bad idea" or "bad policy" isn't exactly a new thing. Again, on the grand scale of things, it's just not that big a deal. Elected governments and their appointed officers decide that public health is best served by requiring masks. So what? Vote for someone else to be on your school board. Where I live that's exactly what happened - a Colorado school board was basically tossed out because (wait for it ....) the parents were all worked up about a mask requirement. Chef Jim, I imagine at one point or another you were required to wear a chef hat in your commercial kitchens. So ... why wasn't that the WORST THING EVER?

 

The level of paranoia about this is just idiotic. It's a policy decision, one that is made as part of a public healthy cost/benefit calculation, that you may think is warranted or unwarranted. Just like hundreds of other policy decisions. Yet this one is part of some diabolical scheme to ... to what? Same with vaccine mandates. A public choice. I needed vaccines to go to school. My kids needed vaccines to go to school. Now all of a sudden it's akin to a satanic plot to require a vaccine.

 

People need to grow up.


So you think it’s a bad idea which in your mind is cool.  We think it’s a bad idea we’re horrified of the intrusion. 
 

Well isn’t this the epitome of partisan bull spit.  
 

Yes people, like you, need to grow up. 🙄

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5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I remember being forced to wear a seatbelt while driving around in public was all the outrage.  Just vote the people who push for mask mandates out.  It's really the only way.

No comparison to a seatbelt around your lap in a car, but your overall assessment on the vote is likely true. Sadly , here in WNY ( or just NYS in general) there are simply too many lefty nut jobs to overcome. Voting for the D is a way of life. A few Counties in NYS have shown some sack and declared that they won’t follow this ridiculous mandate but of course Erie isn’t one of them. 

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9 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Ahhhh......too much logic and data to wrap your tiny brain around Billy?  Struck a nerve debunking the mask save lives myth that you need to justify the insanity?  

 

Sad!  

 

Maybe you should stick to your Trump witch hunt threads literally no one cares about and got your Communist party some solid results in November.

 

Solid meaning *** kicked.  The party message of "Trump insurrectionists bad" is clearly resonating with the broke American people. 


You're winning bro! 
 

 

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23 minutes ago, BillStime said:


You're winning bro! 
 

 

To be fair the cumulative death rate per 100K is more accurate.  The above is a 14 day rolling average death rate per 100K. 

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

 

Also, the health risks and demographics of a state are far more correlated to the death rate than public policy.  This CDC site does an excellent job of displaying those risks.

 

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fcases-updates%2Fcases-in-us.html#underlying-med-conditions

 

 

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1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:


So you think it’s a bad idea which in your mind is cool.  We think it’s a bad idea we’re horrified of the intrusion. 
 

Well isn’t this the epitome of partisan bull spit.  
 

Yes people, like you, need to grow up. 🙄

You are ignoring my point. 
Bad policies are everywhere. Bad policy is not “evil.” Mask mandates in many (I’d say most) situations are

bad policy because the evidence that they substantially reduce transmission is weak. Wearing a mask is not so onerous that it somehow vaults into the category of “evil” or “a horrific intrusion on my civil liberties.” As

i said, it’s akin to making a chef wear a

chef’s hat. Or depending on the establishment, a trucker cap. 
The state has always in America had the power to create rules governing the health, safety, and welfare of its citizens. And if the voters don’t like those rules they can vote their politicians out, or as Reaganites used to say, vote with their feet. I hear some people here have found El Dorado in DeSantisland. Hop on the train. 

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1 hour ago, BillStime said:


You're winning bro! 
 

 

 

 

Over 70 votes Republican. 

 

Nice work low info dupe Bill..

 

There aren't many Ds over 70.

 

That's some real deal investigative work that accomplishes absolutely nothing and serves zero purpose.   

 

Much like you.  

 

 

 

I can play with statistics to.

 

Why are all the deep blue ***t holes seeing the highest covid spikes on the planet?  

 

Ohio is unfortunately in the crosswind of the aresolized virus they think they're eradicating.  

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44 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

You are ignoring my point. 
Bad policies are everywhere. Bad policy is not “evil.” Mask mandates in many (I’d say most) situations are

bad policy because the evidence that they substantially reduce transmission is weak. Wearing a mask is not so onerous that it somehow vaults into the category of “evil” or “a horrific intrusion on my civil liberties.” As

i said, it’s akin to making a chef wear a

chef’s hat. Or depending on the establishment, a trucker cap. 
The state has always in America had the power to create rules governing the health, safety, and welfare of its citizens. And if the voters don’t like those rules they can vote their politicians out, or as Reaganites used to say, vote with their feet. I hear some people here have found El Dorado in DeSantisland. Hop on the train. 

This kind of sums things up the official view on policy discussions.  The science is settled. Until it changes.  But if you question it now, you’re anti-science, even if the science later agrees with you.

This is how it works.  If you suggest something that isn't officially sanctioned people will argue that you are wrong and uninformed.  Then the government changes their minds and agrees with what you said.  Then the people that used to argue with you now agree with what you said before.  But will not acknowledge you were correct before.  And maybe you might be on to something or know what you're taking about.  Because you are anti-science. 

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OK, to better understand these responses I will categorize them, ranging from completely unhinged, to almost reasonable in theory 

but ridiculous in application,

to utterly ignorant and willfully stupid. 

 

Category A - The Qovid Brigade. 
Characterized by extreme paranoia and sometimes oblique references to sinister forces that “created” the virus, that are using it for world domination, that they are using vaccines to implant chips in you (the old version) or to permanently rearrange your DNA (the nouveau edition), etc. Generally harmless, often amusing, that is until stirred up by certain Trumps or Flynns, spun around a few times, and pointed in the general direction of the Capitol with pointy flagpoles and (Trump’s term) trashy appearances.  
 

Category B - The Un-Self-Aware Marxist. You may recognize this type in the wild by frequent references to “Big Pharma” and a bizarre fixation with how many shots you may need to maintain a reasonable level of immunity. They do not realize they are often parroting standard Marxist critiques of capitalism; this lack of self-awareness is apparent as soon as you read their anti-wokeness/anti-CRT posts. Like all true conspiracists,

every data point just proves their theory. We learn that immunity begins to fade after 4 months and a booster may be needed? The ordinary observer says, “well, yes, I guess that’s to be expected with a novel virus and a new vaccine - we will continue to learn with experience.” The Cat B conspiracist will instead say, “Hah! They suckered you in with that first shot or two, told you you’d be good, and now they spring a third shot on you; funny how it’s all good for Big Pharma’s business plan.” Likewise mutations in the virus are

immediately suspect: even if they didn’t create them, they are exploiting them to make you continue to buy their products. This group is therefore susceptible to bad or quack remedies (“you know why they’re hiding that horse dewormer from us; it’s because they can’t make enough money off selling that”) even though they will likely support quack remedy peddler Dr. Oz in his run for the Senate. 
 

Category C -  The Poor Man’s Chomskyite. Harder to recognize, but not so hard when you know what to look for. It is straight out of the Manufacturing Consent playbook. Unlike Cat A or Cat B specialists, this type doesn’t focus on individual villains like Bill Gates or even on specific corporate entities like Big Pharma. It is somewhat more sophisticated, suggesting there’s a deep state infecting all our institutions in which compliance with silly little annoyances (hey, get yer COVID vaccine along with your flu shot and your viagra or birth control prescriptions!; hey, put on a mask when you leave that restaurant table to go to the restroom!) are only there to lower your resistance to state power and to create a compliant society. First they came for the mask wearers, but I didn’t really mind wearing a mask so I didn’t protest. Then they came for the unvaccinated,

but I get all my vaccines anyway so I didn’t protest. Now they’re coming to try to make me watch MSNBC and like it, and it’s too late to stop them!!

 

Category D - The COVID Luddites. These folks often blend seamlessly into the other categories. But here’s what separates them: an intense fear of progress and an even more intense distrust of science and technology. They could not continue on this path if they had sufficient training in the scientific method and statistical inference. They say things like, “50 

percent of people hospitalized with COVID were vaccinated, so obviously the vaccine is utterly useless” and when you explain their error there is not even the faintest glimmer of recognition. 
 

All Categories are impervious to logic,

although in different ways. A and B share the true conspiracy nut’s zeal; just try convincing a 9/11 truther that some sinister force other than Islamic

militant wasn’t behind it. C is a little more open to reason, but is kind of the opposite side of the critical race

theory adherent - he just can’t see beyond his pat explanation for what makes the world go around. D Is truly a hopeless cause. He knows not and knows not that he knows not. He lacks

the patience or ability (or both) to learn. 
 

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1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Over 70 votes Republican. 

 

Nice work low info dupe Bill..

 

There aren't many Ds over 70.

 

That's some real deal investigative work that accomplishes absolutely nothing and serves zero purpose.   

 

Much like you.  

 

 

 

I can play with statistics to.

 

Why are all the deep blue ***t holes seeing the highest covid spikes on the planet?  

 

Ohio is unfortunately in the crosswind of the aresolized virus they think they're eradicating.  

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You're killing it bro!  YOU ROCK!

 

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame

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4 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

You are ignoring my point. 
Bad policies are everywhere. Bad policy is not “evil.” Mask mandates in many (I’d say most) situations are

bad policy because the evidence that they substantially reduce transmission is weak. Wearing a mask is not so onerous that it somehow vaults into the category of “evil” or “a horrific intrusion on my civil liberties.” As

i said, it’s akin to making a chef wear a

chef’s hat. Or depending on the establishment, a trucker cap. 
The state has always in America had the power to create rules governing the health, safety, and welfare of its citizens. And if the voters don’t like those rules they can vote their politicians out, or as Reaganites used to say, vote with their feet. I hear some people here have found El Dorado in DeSantisland. Hop on the train. 

 

No it's not at all like making a chef wear a chef's hat.  Not even close seeing I've worn both.   Try running on a treadmill at the gym with a) a chef's hat and b) a mask.  Once you've done so come back and let us know what you found out.  

 

We'll wait......

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44 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

No it's not at all like making a chef wear a chef's hat.  Not even close seeing I've worn both.   Try running on a treadmill at the gym with a) a chef's hat and b) a mask.  Once you've done so come back and let us know what you found out.  

 

We'll wait......

That’s why god created  Peloton. And nice weather to actually bike outside. 

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