The Frankish Reich Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Libertarian? No. A hard libertarian? ***** no? So in your mind too much government control = hard core libertarian?? Well if you think something relatively innocuous like being required to wear a mask is a horrific intrusion on your freedoms, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 So all these NFL players only know they have it because they test everyday or however many times a week. Meaning by the time they are told to go home they've been spreading it around for likely days........like 100s of millions of people around the world every day who will never get tested. So stupid. When you get down to it I think they're just incapable of saying "it's time to sack up and live with it." That's too toxically masculine or something. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Just now, The Frankish Reich said: Well if you think something relatively innocuous like being required to wear a mask is a horrific intrusion on your freedoms, yes. If it only ended there you might have a point. But you know it would never end there. Next thing you know your health insurance is canceled because you are not wearing a mask in public. Or maybe you will be fired by your woke company for not towing the line? It won’t end with just wearing a mask. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 You were duped and every single one of you should be livid. They intimidated and allowed their members to be shamed over a vaccine that never ever did what they sold it as - and everyone believed what they were selling it as. They thought it would slowly eradicate the virus. That's what everyone thought we were doing. "For the greater good." No it's a vaccine that lessens your chance of dying. Apparently. So celebrate the medical scientific marvel it is and live your lives maskless and free. Like they've been doing in Florida since March 2020. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 Real quick data analysis Michigan: 9 million people Michigan (lockdown hole) now at 2750 deaths per million 27,000 Florida (world's last best hope) is at 2890 61,000 Over twice the population - and the math is the same. You keep telling yourself these state mandates you think keep you safe at Kohls do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: Well if you think something relatively innocuous like being required to wear a mask is a horrific intrusion on your freedoms, yes. Horrific intrusion on my freedoms? Good lord dude. Where the ***** did that come from?? Now back to my question you so conveniently sidestepped. Why do you feel masking up children is necessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Horrific intrusion on my freedoms? Good lord dude. Where the ***** did that come from?? Now back to my question you so conveniently sidestepped. Why do you feel masking up children is necessary? Well, you guys are the ones all worked up about masks. So if they're not a horrific intrusion on your freedoms, I'm not sure why you incessantly post about masks. I didn't say I believed "masking up children is necessary." In fact, I think in most places and times it isn't. It's probably overall a bad idea. But a "bad idea" or "bad policy" isn't exactly a new thing. Again, on the grand scale of things, it's just not that big a deal. Elected governments and their appointed officers decide that public health is best served by requiring masks. So what? Vote for someone else to be on your school board. Where I live that's exactly what happened - a Colorado school board was basically tossed out because (wait for it ....) the parents were all worked up about a mask requirement. Chef Jim, I imagine at one point or another you were required to wear a chef hat in your commercial kitchens. So ... why wasn't that the WORST THING EVER? The level of paranoia about this is just idiotic. It's a policy decision, one that is made as part of a public healthy cost/benefit calculation, that you may think is warranted or unwarranted. Just like hundreds of other policy decisions. Yet this one is part of some diabolical scheme to ... to what? Same with vaccine mandates. A public choice. I needed vaccines to go to school. My kids needed vaccines to go to school. Now all of a sudden it's akin to a satanic plot to require a vaccine. People need to grow up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Well, you guys are the ones all worked up about masks. So if they're not a horrific intrusion on your freedoms, I'm not sure why you incessantly post about masks. I didn't say I believed "masking up children is necessary." In fact, I think in most places and times it isn't. It's probably overall a bad idea. Being in masks means there is something to fear. They got you at this point. When there is something to fear idiots will look to the State to fix it. The State's version of fixing it is not what you think it is and all the interests involved. They are already going to limit capacity in Ontario as you saw. These are power grabs. If they sense enough voters are good with the *safety* they bring, they'll run on it. The other side clearly wants you dead. None of this is science. None of this is necessary. None of this is for a "greater good." My greater good is my family. Not yours. It's doing nothing but creating more division and more harm - especially ya know, since they don't work. Edited December 16, 2021 by Big Blitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Being in masks means there is something to fear. They got you at this point. When there is something to fear idiots will look to the State to fix it. The State's version of fixing it is not what you think it is and all the interests involved. They are already going to limit capacity in Ontario as you saw. These are power grabs. If they sense enough voters are good with the *safety* they bring, they'll run on it. The other side clearly wants you dead. None of this is science. None of this is necessary. None of this is for a "greater good." My greater good is my family. Not yours. It's doing nothing but creating more division and more harm - especially ya know, since they don't work. they work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, BillStime said: they work Clearly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Clearly. keep advocating the death of your fellow Americans you pos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, BillStime said: keep advocating the death of your fellow Americans you pos Ahhhh......too much logic and data to wrap your tiny brain around Billy? Struck a nerve debunking the mask save lives myth that you need to justify the insanity? Sad! Maybe you should stick to your Trump witch hunt threads literally no one cares about and got your Communist party some solid results in November. Solid meaning *** kicked. The party message of "Trump insurrectionists bad" is clearly resonating with the broke American people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Well if you think something relatively innocuous like being required to wear a mask is a horrific intrusion on your freedoms, yes. Being forced to cover ones face/ nose/ mouth for the privilege of walking around in a public is not innocuous to me. It’s a horrific intrusion . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Being forced to cover ones face/ nose/ mouth for the privilege of walking around in a public is not innocuous to me. It’s a horrific intrusion . I remember being forced to wear a seatbelt while driving around in public was all the outrage. Just vote the people who push for mask mandates out. It's really the only way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Ahhhh......too much logic and data to wrap your tiny brain around Billy? Struck a nerve debunking the mask save lives myth that you need to justify the insanity? Sad! Maybe you should stick to your Trump witch hunt threads literally no one cares about and got your Communist party some solid results in November. Solid meaning *** kicked. The party message of "Trump insurrectionists bad" is clearly resonating with the broke American people. Awe, I struck a nerve... too bad. 8 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Being forced to cover ones face/ nose/ mouth for the privilege of walking around in a public is not innocuous to me. It’s a horrific intrusion . You must really hate wearing clothes in public too. Cry harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 10 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Well, you guys are the ones all worked up about masks. So if they're not a horrific intrusion on your freedoms, I'm not sure why you incessantly post about masks. I didn't say I believed "masking up children is necessary." In fact, I think in most places and times it isn't. It's probably overall a bad idea. But a "bad idea" or "bad policy" isn't exactly a new thing. Again, on the grand scale of things, it's just not that big a deal. Elected governments and their appointed officers decide that public health is best served by requiring masks. So what? Vote for someone else to be on your school board. Where I live that's exactly what happened - a Colorado school board was basically tossed out because (wait for it ....) the parents were all worked up about a mask requirement. Chef Jim, I imagine at one point or another you were required to wear a chef hat in your commercial kitchens. So ... why wasn't that the WORST THING EVER? The level of paranoia about this is just idiotic. It's a policy decision, one that is made as part of a public healthy cost/benefit calculation, that you may think is warranted or unwarranted. Just like hundreds of other policy decisions. Yet this one is part of some diabolical scheme to ... to what? Same with vaccine mandates. A public choice. I needed vaccines to go to school. My kids needed vaccines to go to school. Now all of a sudden it's akin to a satanic plot to require a vaccine. People need to grow up. So you think it’s a bad idea which in your mind is cool. We think it’s a bad idea we’re horrified of the intrusion. Well isn’t this the epitome of partisan bull spit. Yes people, like you, need to grow up. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I remember being forced to wear a seatbelt while driving around in public was all the outrage. Just vote the people who push for mask mandates out. It's really the only way. No comparison to a seatbelt around your lap in a car, but your overall assessment on the vote is likely true. Sadly , here in WNY ( or just NYS in general) there are simply too many lefty nut jobs to overcome. Voting for the D is a way of life. A few Counties in NYS have shown some sack and declared that they won’t follow this ridiculous mandate but of course Erie isn’t one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 This virus dosent seem like it's bad enough to just up end society over, but that's just my opinion. Still rolling commando with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Ahhhh......too much logic and data to wrap your tiny brain around Billy? Struck a nerve debunking the mask save lives myth that you need to justify the insanity? Sad! Maybe you should stick to your Trump witch hunt threads literally no one cares about and got your Communist party some solid results in November. Solid meaning *** kicked. The party message of "Trump insurrectionists bad" is clearly resonating with the broke American people. You're winning bro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, BillStime said: You're winning bro! To be fair the cumulative death rate per 100K is more accurate. The above is a 14 day rolling average death rate per 100K. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/ Also, the health risks and demographics of a state are far more correlated to the death rate than public policy. This CDC site does an excellent job of displaying those risks. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fcases-updates%2Fcases-in-us.html#underlying-med-conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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