SCBills Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 I guess we can just keep a list here of everything the media has lied, or “misinformed” the public of over the last few years. Russiagate Bountygate Officer Sicknick skull bashed in with a fire extinguisher Covington Catholic kids Hunter Biden’s laptop is “Russian misinformation” ”Debunked” Wuhan lab leak President Trump “tear gassed” protesters for a photo op The science behind hydroxychloroquine 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, SCBills said: I guess we can just keep a list here of everything the media has lied, or “misinformed” the public of over the last few years. Russiagate Bountygate Officer Sicknick skull bashed in with a fire extinguisher Covington Catholic kids Hunter Biden’s laptop is “Russian misinformation” ”Debunked” Wuhan lab leak President Trump “tear gassed” protesters for a photo op The science behind hydroxychloroquine You forgot Ga election law is designed to suppress the votes of minorities( with no reading or listing of the actual language. ) good people on both sides “ Challenge “ at the border .. no crisis Kids in cages like animals… to kids are detained in prison like facilities Xenophobic Trump restricts travel from China Trump labeled a liar for saying “ I wanted to keep a positive attitude to help keep folks from panicking and doing foolish things”. Fauci applauded for saying “ I was always for masks, no flip flop , I just did not want the public to panic and buy all the N95 masks” Just off the top of my head. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 We never did see that Hunter Biden laptop. That’s because there never was a laptop. That material was hacked. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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plenzmd1 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Governor said: We never did see that Hunter Biden laptop. That’s because there never was a laptop. That material was hacked. Hmm, strange claim...here is an article from your teller of all truth..fake news is it? https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/02/politics/hunter-biden-laptop/index.html Quote The FBI took possession of a laptop that is purported to belong to Hunter Biden. Investigators subpoenaed the laptop in 2019 from a computer shop in Delaware, CNN previously reported. A law enforcement source has told CNN that the assumption is that it is Hunter Biden's laptop. But the FBI is still working through the content and the integrity of what is on it, because it was not in Hunter Biden's sole possession the whole time before it was handed over to the FBI. and from Hunter Biden himself Quote Hunter Biden told CBS News in an interview clip released on Friday that he has "no idea whether or not" the laptop belongs to him, but acknowledged that it was "certainly" a possibility, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Going to be a blizzard in this thread Snowflake central 3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Hmm, strange claim...here is an article from your teller of all truth..fake news is it? https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/02/politics/hunter-biden-laptop/index.html and from Hunter Biden himself Wait CNN can be trusted when the narrative is on your side, but when it’s not it’s pure propaganda. Fun! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Hmm, strange claim...here is an article from your teller of all truth..fake news is it? https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/02/politics/hunter-biden-laptop/index.html and from Hunter Biden himself So….we still have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, 716er said: Going to be a blizzard in this thread Snowflake central Wait CNN can be trusted when the narrative is on your side, but when it’s not it’s pure propaganda. Fun! k< so are we saying CNN is fake news? as long as we agree ... kinda the point of this whole thread no? The media cannot be trusted..pretty much any of it 1 minute ago, Governor said: So….we still have no idea. you said there was no laptop..i can quote 100 sources, left, right, center, above, below, that says there is... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Over and over we see the central truth: the corporate outlets that most loudly and shrilly denounce 'disinformation' — to the point of demanding online censorship and de-platforming in the name of combating it — are, in fact, the ones who spread disinformation most frequently and destructively." -- Glenn Greenwald 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: k< so are we saying CNN is fake news? as long as we agree ... kinda the point of this whole thread no? The media cannot be trusted..pretty much any of it you said there was no laptop..i can quote 100 sources, left, right, center, above, below, that says there is... Show me one that confirms the laptop belongs to Hunter Biden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Governor said: Show me one that confirms the laptop belongs to Hunter Biden. just did..the CNN report and another https://www.businessinsider.com/daily-mail-authenticated-hunter-biden-laptop-images-2021-4 Edited June 10, 2021 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: just did..the CNN report and another https://www.businessinsider.com/daily-mail-authenticated-hunter-biden-laptop-images-2021-4 Can you show me a real source that confirms the laptop belongs to Hunter Biden? We know who Daily Mail is and their track record. Show me a source that says…. FBI confirms laptop belonged to Hunter Biden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 44 minutes ago, Governor said: We never did see that Hunter Biden laptop. That’s because there never was a laptop. That material was hacked. whoa this just shows the depth of you sheeple's misinformation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Governor said: Can you show me a real source that confirms the laptop belongs to Hunter Biden? We know who Daily Mail is and their track record. Show me a source that says…. FBI confirms laptop belonged to Hunter Biden. again, the very reason for this thread....and this proves what the OP was saying show me one source that confirmed Sicknick was killed by blunt force trauma after being struck in the head with a fire extinguisher...just one...ya cant...and that reporting was introduced as EVIDENCE in an impeachment trial of the POTUS...think about that for a minute...but because it came from a MSM outlet, it had to be true! Just like Russia Gate, just like the coco was ABSOLUTELY not escaped from a lab...just like everything listed in original post. At what point , and after how many falsehoods, do people stand up and say...holy hell, the whole of the media is just a propaganda arm for their selected party..WAPO/CNN/NYT etc for the Dems....Fox/ WSJ/ etc for the Rebublicans. And people wonder why the the "big Lie" gets believed? Its cause of all the falsehoods pushed for advocacy reasons by the media. And some people say fool me once,sure... but ya aint fooling me 20 times. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Just now, Unforgiven said: whoa this just shows the depth of you sheeple's misinformation There’s a reason why I’m asking a question I already know the answer to. The material was hacked and then placed on a device. Hackers do that to hide their criminality and it allows the data to be released legally. It provides cover for the hack. I’m not saying that his iPhone wasn’t hacked at some point. I’m saying that there was no laptop that contained this data initially. It was placed there at a later time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Governor said: There’s a reason why I’m asking a question I already know the answer to. The material was hacked and then placed on a device. Hackers do that to hide their criminality and it allows the data to be released legally. It provides cover for the hack. I’m not saying that his iPhone wasn’t hacked at some point. I’m saying that there was no laptop that contained this data initially. It was placed there at a later time. to play your game..show me a source on ANY of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: to play your game..show me a source on ANY of that We don’t need one because you can’t confirm the laptop belonged to Hunter Biden. Until the FBI confirms this, we have no choice but to assume the data did not originate on that laptop. This is all stuff that forensics can figure out in 10 minutes. Same thing with Rudy’s hard drives. They already know what the deal is. The hacked data was placed on other devices. Edited June 10, 2021 by Governor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: to play your game..show me a source on ANY of that So nothing then. Ok, cool. Lets move onto another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Governor said: We don’t need one because you can’t confirm the laptop belonged to Hunter Biden. Until the FBI confirms this, we have no choice but to assume the data did not originate on that laptop. This is all stuff that forensics can figure out in 10 minutes. Same thing with Rudy’s hard drives. They already know what the deal is. The hacked data was placed on other devices. Okay, so according to you until the FBI confirms its Hunters laptop, it means we must assume it is not Hunters laptop. But, the FBI cannot confirm anything in an ongoing investigation https://www.fbi.gov/about/faqs/can-i-obtain-detailed-information-about-a-current-fbi-investigation-that-i-see-in-the-news I also posted a source form CNN that says the laptop is firmly believed to Hunters, may have been out of his possession, and another source from a the Daily Mail that confirms with forensics the veracity of the laptop and its info. But you choose not to believe it cause it does not fit your narrative. Be nice if we used that same standard on every anti Trump/Republican story. Sources no longer valid until the FBI confirms it!!!!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 So let's end this whole thread. We know that news outlets cannot be trusted, that politicians cannot be trusted, that major political campaign donors cannot be trusted, that my brother in law cannot be trusted, That about covers this debate. 🙃 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Okay, so according to you until the FBI confirms its Hunters laptop, it means we must assume it is not Hunters laptop. But, the FBI cannot confirm anything in an ongoing investigation https://www.fbi.gov/about/faqs/can-i-obtain-detailed-information-about-a-current-fbi-investigation-that-i-see-in-the-news I also posted a source form CNN that says the laptop is firmly believed to Hunters, may have been out of his possession, and another source from a the Daily Mail that confirms with forensics the veracity of the laptop and its info. But you choose not to believe it cause it does not fit your narrative. Be nice if we used that same standard on every anti Trump/Republican story. Sources no longer valid until the FBI confirms it!!!!!! Correct. Your Hunter Biden conspiracy, along with Rudy’s super duper secret hard drives, never had any legs and that’s why the smear didn’t work pre-election. Although, we will eventually find out who placed the material on the devices, since Rudy is likely to be indicted for his Ukraine criminality here soon. Edited June 10, 2021 by Governor 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: So let's end this whole thread. We know that news outlets cannot be trusted, that politicians cannot be trusted, that major political campaign donors cannot be trusted, that my brother in law cannot be trusted, That about covers this debate. 🙃 What wrong with your brother in law? Just now, B-Man said: Or...............................once the laptop silliness ends, We could use this thread to post (daily) examples of why the media should not be trusted. This is easy, just looks at the news stories from the NYT, then NY post. Then look at Washington post and Washington times. Completely different stories headlines and priorities. Extremely biased in opposite directions providing journalism has no objectivity. Zero and that’s what the cults want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: Or...............................once the laptop silliness ends, We could use this thread to post (daily) examples of why the media should not be trusted. Can we start with REDSTATE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Okay, so according to you until the FBI confirms its Hunters laptop, it means we must assume it is not Hunters laptop. But, the FBI cannot confirm anything in an ongoing investigation https://www.fbi.gov/about/faqs/can-i-obtain-detailed-information-about-a-current-fbi-investigation-that-i-see-in-the-news I also posted a source form CNN that says the laptop is firmly believed to Hunters, may have been out of his possession, and another source from a the Daily Mail that confirms with forensics the veracity of the laptop and its info. But you choose not to believe it cause it does not fit your narrative. Be nice if we used that same standard on every anti Trump/Republican story. Sources no longer valid until the FBI confirms it!!!!!! Recipients and senders of the e-mails confirmed they were real and had copies on their own machines to provide physical evidence and to collaborate the authenticity of the e-mail on the laptop. Fact. The repair shop owner has a receipt with Hunter's genuine signature. Fact. This proves the laptop is Hunter's and the e-mails and files are genuine. 2+2=4. Fact. The FBI isn't investigating anything. Their objective is to bury the story. The FBI leadership is corrupted by politics and no longer serves the public interest. The FBI's primary mission is to identify and harass critics of the government and the political opponents of specific polices inside the government. These groups they target are generally right leaning. Because in general conservative groups want less government and see growing government power and control as a threat to freedom and liberty. Left wing groups see the government as a tool to enforce and enable their agenda and do not seek to limit the power of government. They seek increase government power and control and to gain complete control of the government to achieve their objectives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Recipients and senders of the e-mails confirmed they were real and had copies on their own machines to provide physical evidence and to collaborate the authenticity of the e-mail on the laptop. Fact. The repair shop owner has a receipt with Hunter's genuine signature. Fact. This proves the laptop is Hunter's and the e-mails and files are genuine. 2+2=4. Fact. The FBI isn't investigating anything. Their objective is to bury the story. The FBI leadership is corrupted by politics and no longer serves the public interest. The FBI's primary mission is to identify and harass critics of the government and the political opponents of specific polices inside the government. These groups they target are generally right leaning. Because in general conservative groups want less government and see growing government power and control as a threat to freedom and liberty. Left wing groups see the government as a tool to enforce and enable their agenda and do not seek to limit the power of government. They seek increase government power and control and to gain complete control of the government to achieve their objectives. Right. So what you confirmed is that “some” data, emails, etc., are authentic and came from somewhere, likely his iPhone. What you can’t confirm is that the laptop really belongs to him(store owner vanished) and that the data was present on that device when it was given to that store owner and then to Rudy. Even if the laptop belonged to him, it doesn’t prove any of the other things. This is what you guys are purposely ignoring. So, what we likely have here is a device stuffed full of hacked material, some real, some fake, and the FBI hasn’t confirmed any of those things yet. This isn’t hard guys. Going by what Rudy did previously with the Weiner laptop, we know the intent wasn’t to find anything criminal, but to force an investigation open that gives the impression of wrong doing. The emails or content in those emails never mattered to them and it turned out to be totally bogus. We see the same exact strategy played out with the Hunter Biden story, every step of the way. Same exact thing. It was a replay of 2016 except this time everyone was waiting for it and fell off their couch laughing when it came in the final weeks. So now, Rudy has these “other” hard drives that contain NEW juicy corruption. Sound familiar? Hmm….where have we seen this before? Hey, wait a minute! This is the same as Hillary’s buttery males!!!!? This is why I often refer to Trump as a “one trick pony.” Edited June 10, 2021 by Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, BillStime said: Can we start with REDSTATE? If you find something factually wrong with the story..........certainly But that would require you to READ it. It's much better for your closed mind if you just continue to dismiss those "unapproved" sites out of hand. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 4 hours ago, SCBills said: I guess we can just keep a list here of everything the media has lied, or “misinformed” the public of over the last few years. Russiagate Bountygate Officer Sicknick skull bashed in with a fire extinguisher Covington Catholic kids Hunter Biden’s laptop is “Russian misinformation” ”Debunked” Wuhan lab leak President Trump “tear gassed” protesters for a photo op The science behind hydroxychloroquine What Trump suggested is true--there is a whole lot of 'fake news' out there. Virtually everyone agrees on that, the rest is just semantics and political posturing. The irony is that pre-Trump, a typical tactic from the left was "WhatdyagetyernewsfromFox?", and when he pushed the issue into mainstream discussions, they had to scramble to find where they placed their phony indignation when called on it. 38 minutes ago, BillStime said: Can we start with REDSTATE? Exhibit 110,915 from the left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) Edited June 10, 2021 by B-Man 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: If you find something factually wrong with the story..........certainly But that would require you to READ it. It's much better for your closed mind if you just continue to dismiss those "unapproved" sites out of hand. I read the hit piece on Kamala the other day - it contained no news - just feels. No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Too bad there's no vaccine for stupid. Thats something this country could really use. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 ***** CNN it’s fake news! Except when they report on Hunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, 716er said: ***** CNN it’s fake news! Except when they report on Hunter And don't forget - the Deep State doesn't exist when a Trump IG reports "news" that the nut jobs like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 9 hours ago, B-Man said: Or...............................once the laptop silliness ends, We could use this thread to post (daily) examples of why the media should not be trusted. Time to take a break from the political Crapola. Time for a renewed perspective B. You don't seem to be able to see the trees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 The American media is, straight up, propaganda...it’s so blantantly obvious now, it’s ridiculous...they simply do not care about truth or facts (or debate, for that matter)...their goal is to manufacture consent, and silence those who don’t regurgitate the “official” narrative... 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Yeah, a good rule of thumb is never trust a screen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 he typed into a screen for people to read on a screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 The American Media Should Not Be Trusted.............Exhibit #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 22 hours ago, BillStime said: And don't forget - the Deep State doesn't exist when a Trump IG reports "news" that the nut jobs like... They had to create their own news echo chamber because there wasn’t ever any good news about them. That shows the decay of the party. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Leftists at Media Matters Caught Pushing Lie About Republican (Again). “Media Matters, the progressive organization that helps create the Democrat’s anti-conservative talking points behind closed doors, was caught pushing a lie about Texas Republican Bob Hall. This lie was so obviously wrong, so egregious they had to retract the story and apologize.” https://lidblog.com/mmfa-leftists/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, B-Man said: Leftists at Media Matters Caught Pushing Lie About Republican (Again). “Media Matters, the progressive organization that helps create the Democrat’s anti-conservative talking points behind closed doors, was caught pushing a lie about Texas Republican Bob Hall. This lie was so obviously wrong, so egregious they had to retract the story and apologize.” https://lidblog.com/mmfa-leftists/ Speaking of talking points - when do you receive yours on SPYGATE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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