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5 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

About time.  These old guys just can't keep up.  CBB is a different world.

 

It's literally all about recruiting for one year.  I can see why Scheyer would be next in line, he has been the main recruiter for Duke.

Yea but he's the main recruiter for kids to play UNDER Coach K.. not head coach Jon scheyer 

 

Duke is absolutely going to take a step back

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It's time. You could see him fading over the last few years. There is no way in Hades Coach K from the early 2000's doesn't get a banner with Zion, Barrett, Reddish, and Jones. 

1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:

I wonder if they'd call Bobby Hurley to replace him. 

I think the consensus right now is that Scheyer will be taking the reigns. 

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2 hours ago, eball said:

The old man was slipping.  Apparently another pasty-faced Dookie will be replacing him...Jon Scheyer.

 

He set the bar pretty high for whining about every little call to have his way with the refs! That will be tough to live up to! 

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16 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Yea but he's the main recruiter for kids to play UNDER Coach K.. not head coach Jon scheyer 

 

Duke is absolutely going to take a step back

 

K built the Duke brand.  That brand will still be there, meaning the top facilities, most national exposure, connections. good conference, etc.

 

Not sure who would want to play under K's coaching recently.  These players went there for the exposure they receive at being at a school that gets the most televised games.

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26 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

K built the Duke brand.  That brand will still be there, meaning the top facilities, most national exposure, connections. good conference, etc.

 

Not sure who would want to play under K's coaching recently.  These players went there for the exposure they receive at being at a school that gets the most televised games.

 

Yeah but that will only last so long if they're not winning anymore.

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3 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Yeah but that will only last so long if they're not winning anymore.

 

What do you classify as "winning"?

 

Lots of traditional power houses are not winning national championships and it doesn't change anything.  The hate will always be there that people will tune into.

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4 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

 

K built the Duke brand.  That brand will still be there, meaning the top facilities, most national exposure, connections. good conference, etc.

 

Not sure who would want to play under K's coaching recently.  These players went there for the exposure they receive at being at a school that gets the most televised games.

Coach K is one of the best that's ever done it 

 

Even on a bad day he's better than 95% of coaches. They're absolutely going to take a hit for a bit

 

Duke is absolutely going to take a step backwards. Does it mean they're going to be irrelevant? No .. but even Alabama took years to find her footing after Bear Bryant left

 

Coach K is Duke. The brand will not be the same 

I'm not saying they're going to be trash either. I'm just saying they're not going to be perennial top 10

 

 

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1 hour ago, Back2Buff said:

What do you classify as "winning"?

 

Lots of traditional power houses are not winning national championships and it doesn't change anything.  The hate will always be there that people will tune into.

 

Winning/going far in the tournament.  The hate dies down, as does the exposure, the less winning that occurs.

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The guys and I were talking last night at the bar after our softball game about K retiring.  What do you think the ticket price on the secondary market for the last game of the regular season @ Cameron against the Heels is going to go for next March?  

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3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Coach K is one of the best that's ever done it 

 

Even on a bad day he's better than 95% of coaches. They're absolutely going to take a hit for a bit

 

Duke is absolutely going to take a step backwards. Does it mean they're going to be irrelevant? No .. but even Alabama took years to find her footing after Bear Bryant left

 

Coach K is Duke. The brand will not be the same 

 

I'm not saying they're going to be trash either. I'm just saying they're not going to be perennial top 10

 

 

 

 

They haven't been perennial top 10 in years with K.  I just don't understand what you are trying to say.  K is not leaving on a high.  Quite honestly, the last 5 years have been some of the worst coaching performances in CBB.

 

Coach K has made Duke, but he is not Duke.  They have become their own brand now.  The college bb brand will never be the same, that applies to Duke too, with or without K.

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19 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

They haven't been perennial top 10 in years with K.  I just don't understand what you are trying to say.  K is not leaving on a high.  Quite honestly, the last 5 years have been some of the worst coaching performances in CBB.

 

Coach K has made Duke, but he is not Duke.  They have become their own brand now.  The college bb brand will never be the same, that applies to Duke too, with or without K.

I don't know how you're saying they're not perennially top 10 with Coach K

 

In the final AP poll they finished top 10..  11 times in the last 15 years.. 7 out of last 10... more than any program

 

4 elite 8 in the last 8 years

 

They're not winning national championships like they used to.. that doesn't mean they're not a top 10 team 

 

Which statistically they absolutely are

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15 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I don't know how you're saying they're not perennially top 10 with Coach K

 

In the final AP poll they finished top 10..  11 times in the last 15 years.. 7 out of last 10... more than any program

 

4 elite 8 in the last 8 years

 

They're not winning national championships like they used to.. that doesn't mean they're not a top 10 team 

 

Which statistically they absolutely are

 

I'm talking recent.

 

Since 2015 National Championship, they have been largely a disappointment.  There has been consistent good teams during the last 5 years, and Duke has not been one of them.

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Gotta retire sometime.

 

For a guy like him though, the current state of affairs in college basketball probably gets less inspiring with each passing season.  You essentially work to capture lightning in a bottle for one year before all your freshman and sophomore superstars declare for the NBA Draft.  

 

It's something - since 1990 only Duke and Florida have won back to back championships.  Duke did it in 1991 and 1992.  Florida did it in 2006 and 2007.   

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6 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

 

I'm talking recent.

 

Since 2015 National Championship, they have been largely a disappointment.  There has been consistent good teams during the last 5 years, and Duke has not been one of them.

When you are recruiting largely one and done and two and done talent

 

Sometimes you have a few teams that don't gel for a couple years 

 

You have schools like Gonzaga and Villanova and Virginia which are upper classmen heavy , and they might not have the top 10 recruits that Duke has... But they have top 50 recruits

 

And they're seniors with experience

 

Talented Duke teams which are freshman and sophomore heavy sometimes just get outclassed on a day by an older savvier team

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