Derek Chauvin Trial

[Boatdrinks]

39 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

I think most people have trouble breathing when anxiety kicks in. It's actually a physiological response to panic, the diaphragm muscles that need to expand to take a full breath tighten and you actually can't get full breaths. 

 

But even if Floyd was lying about not being able to breathe before he was put on the ground, suffocating him to death is an extreme form of "I'll give you something to cry about." 

 

 

Oh Chauvin is guilty of something . Just not sure what 

[Motorin']

Just now, Boatdrinks said:

Oh Chauvin is guilty of something . Just not sure what 

 

I wish there was a "fair enough" button. 

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

A rather odd response to a post with a video.

 

Oh wait, it's Tibs trying (and failing) to change the subject.

 

 

I watched all that on tv. 

 

Go watch the Sabres game 

[LeviF]

5 hours ago, TSOL said:

 

 

That's why in canada and england they would have just let him go. 

 

To use the billions of dollars we have invested in technology to find him at a later date. This was not a life or death infraction he was being arrested for. 

 

Trigger happy cops with egos from being trained like they are junior special ops forces aren't what this country needs 

To your first point, we train officers that you don’t make contact with a subject in a vehicle that can still move. Ain’t ***** worth getting dragged. You can find the shitbag at a later date because he’ll never stop being a shitbag. 
 

And what happened to Daunte Wright is the direct result of neglecting and underfunding training for cops. 
 

All that being said, if you comply you never get an accidental stress response like the one young Mr. Wright received. 

4 hours ago, TSOL said:

 

He was trying to run from an expired registration ticket. 

 

 

No, he was trying to run from a felony warrant. 

[SoCal Deek]

58 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I watched all that on tv. 

 

Go watch the Sabres game 

Now THIS may be the craziest thing anyone has ever posted on here. EVERYONE knows that the Sabres are completely unwatchable!  Tibs, you really do live in a Bizzaro World.

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Now THIS may be the craziest thing anyone has ever posted on here. EVERYONE knows that the Sabres are completely unwatchable!  Tibs, you really do live in a Bizzaro World.

It was a fun game to watch tonight 

 

Dahlin is a turning into a super star. 

[TSOL]

1 hour ago, LeviF91 said:

To your first point, we train officers that you don’t make contact with a subject in a vehicle that can still move. Ain’t ***** worth getting dragged. You can find the shitbag at a later date because he’ll never stop being a shitbag. 
 

And what happened to Daunte Wright is the direct result of neglecting and underfunding training for cops. 
 

All that being said, if you comply you never get an accidental stress response like the one young Mr. Wright received. 

No, he was trying to run from a felony warrant. 

 

I just don't think I trust cops with guns anymore. Maybe they should just carry tasers.

 

Or blowdarts or slingshots.  Something way less lethal. 

[LeviF]

6 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

I just don't think I trust cops with guns anymore. Maybe they should just carry tasers.

 

Or blowdarts or slingshots.  Something way less lethal. 

So abolish the police. Got it. 
 

Just for kicks do you know how many “bad shoots” of African Americans there are per year?

[TSOL]

Just now, LeviF91 said:

So abolish the police. Got it. 
 

Just for kicks do you know how many “bad shoots” of African Americans there are per year?

 

Dont abolish police, where did you get that from. 

 

Just don't give them the ability for deadly force. 

 

Why you getting all passive aggresive with me about that? You like the cops having the ability to kill people? 

[LeviF]

1 minute ago, TSOL said:

 

Dont abolish police, where did you get that from. 

 

Just don't give them the ability for deadly force. 

 

Why you getting all passive aggresive with me about that? You like the cops having the ability to kill people? 

Every nation on earth has a police force that carries guns in at least some capacity. Without the ability to use deadly force, law enforcement is impossible. 

[B-Man]

 

 

BREAKING – Motion for Judgment of Acquittal Denied, Defense Case Continues

 

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/live-chauvin-trial-day-13-this-morning-court-to-consider-judgment-of-acquittal/

 

[Chef Jim]

13 hours ago, TSOL said:

 

Dont abolish police, where did you get that from. 

 

Just don't give them the ability for deadly force. 

 

Why you getting all passive aggresive with me about that? You like the cops having the ability to kill people? 

 

So you want police to show up to a potential gun fight with what exactly? 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 14, 2021 by B-Man

[TSOL]

1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

So you want police to show up to a potential gun fight with what exactly? 

 

 

The cops should be driving little three wheeled electric golf carts, have little rubber billy clubs and wear those funny old time hats that they used to have back in the day. That's my solution 

[Motorin']

36 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So we are to believe that it's legal police policy to kneel on the neck of a man having a heart attack? 

 

Sadistic. 

 

 

[B-Man]

3 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

So we are to believe that it's legal police policy to kneel on the neck of a man having a heart attack? 

 

Sadistic. 

 

 

Your statement, as always, is completelty off point from what the pathologist said.

 

 

 

[Motorin']

11 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Your statement, as always, is completelty off point from what the pathologist said.

 

 

 

 

So the pathologist testified that Floyd had cardiac arrest after he was found pulseless while Chauvin continued to kneel on his neck? 

 

Otherwise, you have a cop kneeling on a dead man's neck who had cardiac arrest. 

 

 

[Tiberius]

59 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So a guy sitting on his neck while he said he could not breath was not the cause? Ya, ok. 

 

This guy has testified for other police accused of killing people, right? 

2 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

So the pathologist testified that Floyd had cardiac arrest after he was found pulseless while Chauvin continued to kneel on his neck? 

 

Otherwise, you have a cop kneeling on a dead man's neck who had cardiac arrest. 

 

 

These experts have biases, too. 

[Unforgiven]

3 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

So the pathologist testified that Floyd had cardiac arrest after he was found pulseless while Chauvin continued to kneel on his neck? 

 

Otherwise, you have a cop kneeling on a dead man's neck who had cardiac arrest. 

 

 

Neck area

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So a guy sitting on his neck while he said he could not breath was not the cause? Ya, ok. 

 

This guy has testified for other police accused of killing people, right? 

Neck area

[Tiberius]

Just now, Unforgiven said:

Neck area

until dead 

1 minute ago, Unforgiven said:

Neck area

Neck area

Until dead

Until dead 

[Motorin']

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So a guy sitting on his neck while he said he could not breath was not the cause? Ya, ok. 

 

This guy has testified for other police accused of killing people, right? 

These experts have biases, too. 

  Meanwhile, "Dr. Bradford Wankhede Langenfeld, the Hennepin County Medical Center physician who pronounced George Floyd dead, previously said that Floyd’s cardiac arrest was likely a result of a lack of oxygen — a source of information backed by Dr. Martin Tobin, a pulmonologist and physician with experience in critical care medicine, who explained that Floyd’s insufficient oxygen levels “caused damage to his brain” and “caused a PEA arrhythmia that caused his heart to stop.”

 

I'm not surprised the Defense was able to pay an expert witness to say that Floyd's death was caused by Floyd himself. 

 

But you have to be a sadist to believe that argument aquits Chauvin.

[Unforgiven]

4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

until dead 

Until dead

Until dead 

Triggered  lol

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Unforgiven said:

Triggered  lol

Not until dead, though

 

So you are free to go 

[Unforgiven]

4 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

  Meanwhile, "Dr. Bradford Wankhede Langenfeld, the Hennepin County Medical Center physician who pronounced George Floyd dead, previously said that Floyd’s cardiac arrest was likely a result of a lack of oxygen — a source of information backed by Dr. Martin Tobin, a pulmonologist and physician with experience in critical care medicine, who explained that Floyd’s insufficient oxygen levels “caused damage to his brain” and “caused a PEA arrhythmia that caused his heart to stop.”

 

I'm not surprised the Defense was able to pay an expert witness to say that Floyd's death was caused by Floyd himself. 

 

But you have to be a sadist to believe that argument aquits Chauvin.

Technically speaking this is sort of correct...wouldn't he probably still be alive today if he wasn't drugged out

committing some crime that day?

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, TSOL said:

 

 

The cops should be driving little three wheeled electric golf carts, have little rubber billy clubs and wear those funny old time hats that they used to have back in the day. That's my solution 

 

So you have no serious answer to your stupid comment.  Glad I could call you out on your stupidity.  

[Tiberius]

Nice cross examination to get the defenses expert to admit that Floyd should have been given medical attention. That’s part of the charges, and that was a defense witness! 

[wnyguy]

Just now, Tiberius said:

Nice cross examination to get the defenses expert to admit that Floyd should have been given medical attention. That’s part of the charges, and that was a defense witness! 

Agree with you there. 

[SoCal Deek]

OK, I’m curious. Some of you appear to be watching the trial from gavel to gavel. Is the actual trial on TV somewhere? Or are you just seeing edited highlights? And if you’re watching the entire thing...don’t you have better things to do? Like going to work? 

[Tiberius]

30 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

OK, I’m curious. Some of you appear to be watching the trial from gavel to gavel. Is the actual trial on TV somewhere? Or are you just seeing edited highlights? And if you’re watching the entire thing...don’t you have better things to do? Like going to work? 

I have been catching bits and pieces at work, but when I get home, the trial is usually still going on for like an hour so I can catch it on CNN. Love watching trails! I wish I had court tv 

[LeviF]

39 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I have been catching bits and pieces at work, but when I get home, the trial is usually still going on for like an hour so I can catch it on CNN. Love watching trails! I wish I had court tv 

I’m surprised one of those free smart TV apps like Friendly or Pluto don’t have court tv. Pluto has a channel that just does “Cops” reruns 24/7 and a channel that plays old WPT events lol

[T&C]

Defense rests in Derek Chauvin murder trial for death of George Floyd:

 

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2021/04/15/defense-rest-chauvin-

 

The defense has rested in George Floyd's murder trial Thursday, without former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin taking the stand. 

“I will invoke my fifth amendment privilege today,” Chauvin said, choosing not to testify on his own behalf.

The prosecution's case took two weeks; the defense took all of two days.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

On 4/13/2021 at 10:06 PM, TSOL said:

 

I just don't think I trust cops with guns anymore. Maybe they should just carry tasers.

 

Or blowdarts or slingshots.  Something way less lethal. 

 
I thought about this, or at least have them in a lock box on the car with only the taser holstered. 

But the criminals all have guns... lots of them

[Niagara Bill]

4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 
I thought about this, or at least have them in a lock box on the car with only the taser holstered. 

I have thought if this type of situation except there are many neighborhoods where this would be suicide in 2021. Cops have become a military unit, trained to attack their own citizens. The disrespect of the law by many gss led to this. Many societal issues must be fixed simultaneously. Lessening the danger from police would assist in creating a better relationship with all citizens except the criminals. The solution to fixing the gang, drug and criminal issues are way past my ability to try to explain. Very complex.

[LeviF]

2 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

I have thought if this type of situation except there are many neighborhoods where this would be suicide in 2021. Cops have become a military unit, trained to attack their own citizens. The disrespect of the law by many gss led to this. Many societal issues must be fixed simultaneously. Lessening the danger from police would assist in creating a better relationship with all citizens except the criminals. The solution to fixing the gang, drug and criminal issues are way past my ability to try to explain. Very complex.

Tbh you might get flamed for the military comparison but urban police in many places are basically an occupying force with the justification for their presence being high rates of violent crime. Some cities have tried mitigating this by recruiting more locals but it’s tough sledding, especially now. 

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

I have been catching bits and pieces at work, but when I get home, the trial is usually still going on for like an hour so I can catch it on CNN. Love watching trails! I wish I had court tv 

Oh btw tibs I just googled it and apparently court tv has a free app for fire stick, roku, etc. Not sure if the live content is free but worth a shot. 

[Tiberius]

13 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

Tbh you might get flamed for the military comparison but urban police in many places are basically an occupying force with the justification for their presence being high rates of violent crime. Some cities have tried mitigating this by recruiting more locals but it’s tough sledding, especially now. 

Oh btw tibs I just googled it and apparently court tv has a free app for fire stick, roku, etc. Not sure if the live content is free but worth a shot. 

Thanks! I'll check that out! 

44 minutes ago, T&C said:

Defense rests in Derek Chauvin murder trial for death of George Floyd:

 

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2021/04/15/defense-rest-chauvin-

 

The defense has rested in George Floyd's murder trial Thursday, without former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin taking the stand. 

“I will invoke my fifth amendment privilege today,” Chauvin said, choosing not to testify on his own behalf.

The prosecution's case took two weeks; the defense took all of two days.

Interesting. I was thinking he should have taken the stand. He would of been able to show remorse, that he was under so much stress and that he did not want to hurt Mr. Floyd. 

 

Of course, cross examination would of been brutal.

[Tiberius]

21 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

I have thought if this type of situation except there are many neighborhoods where this would be suicide in 2021. Cops have become a military unit, trained to attack their own citizens. The disrespect of the law by many gss led to this. Many societal issues must be fixed simultaneously. Lessening the danger from police would assist in creating a better relationship with all citizens except the criminals. The solution to fixing the gang, drug and criminal issues are way past my ability to try to explain. Very complex.

Yup. That's a tough one 

[T&C]

41 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

Interesting. I was thinking he should have taken the stand. He would of been able to show remorse, that he was under so much stress and that he did not want to hurt Mr. Floyd. 

 

Of course, cross examination would of been brutal.

Both sides have rested their case... final arguments will be on Monday. Here is a bit of the article referring your mention of Chauvin taking the stand:

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2021/04/15/defense-rest-chauvin-

 

“I will invoke my Fifth Amendment privilege today,” Chauvin said, choosing not to testify on his own behalf, opting to use his right against self-incrimination.

 

“Is this your decision not to testify?” Judge Peter Cahill asked.

“It is, your honor,” Chauvin said.

 

The risks for Chauvin were high: Testifying could have opened him up to devastating cross-examination, with prosecutors replaying the video of the arrest and forcing Chauvin to explain, one frame at a time, why he kept pressing down on Floyd.

[Boatdrinks]

2 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

I have thought if this type of situation except there are many neighborhoods where this would be suicide in 2021. Cops have become a military unit, trained to attack their own citizens. The disrespect of the law by many gss led to this. Many societal issues must be fixed simultaneously. Lessening the danger from police would assist in creating a better relationship with all citizens except the criminals. The solution to fixing the gang, drug and criminal issues are way past my ability to try to explain. Very complex.

The danger from Police to non criminal citizens is already extremely low. Cultural issues that make some extremely violent toward Police is indeed a difficult issue to “ solve”. There may not be any realistic solution. 

[Motorin']

8 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

The danger from Police to non criminal citizens is already extremely low. Cultural issues that make some extremely violent toward Police is indeed a difficult issue to “ solve”. There may not be any realistic solution. 

 

I get it. Criminals shouldn't be afforded the rights of citizens. And the police know who to target just by looking .

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

4 hours ago, Motorin' said:

 

I get it. Criminals shouldn't be afforded the rights of citizens. And the police know who to target just by looking .