H.R. 1 And The Fight For Voting Rights -- We The People!

[TH3]

On 6/11/2021 at 1:03 PM, B-Man said:

 

Oh c'mon Doc.

 

He has already posted numerous lists.

 

The fact that is actually the exact opposite of "rigging" doesn't bother a lightweight like Billzy.

 

States returning to pre-covid regulations and Voter ID's is what people  THE GOP's want.

 

 

 

 

FIFY

On 6/17/2021 at 12:19 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

Easy to Vote, Hard to Cheat

 

By Glenn Harlan Reynolds

June 17, 2021

 

America’s voting system is in trouble. To do its job, it needs to produce clear and trustworthy outcomes. It’s not enough to produce a winner and loser. The losers have to believe that they lost fair and square, and the public has to have enough confidence in the system to be skeptical when sore losers claim fraud.

 

We don’t have that right now. To get there, we need paper ballots, voter ID, and open counting – plus a bit of self-restraint among our political class. Across much of America, voting is now done by computerized devices. Computers have many advantages: They’re fast, they’re easy to program (compared with changing printed ballots), and they produce rapid results that can be quickly reported.

 

But they also have problems. One is that to trust a computer, you have to trust the people who wrote its software, and everyone else who may have had an opportunity to change that software. Devices that connect to the Internet also raise the risk that people on the other side of the world might change the software or the results.

 

Since 2020, such worries have often been dismissed as right-wing propaganda, but just before the election USA Today published a roundup of concerns about electronic voting that cited numerous computer scientists. Conclusion: “All election systems are for the most part black boxes: proprietary software and hardware jealously guarded by the handful of companies selling them. But state reviews and court cases opening up DRE [direct-recording electronic] systems of all makes and models for examination have for years flagged problems.”

 

“The whole community of computer scientists is mystified why election officials will not listen to experts about technology but will listen to the vendors” selling and maintaining it, said computer scientist Duncan Buell of the University of South Carolina.

 

Prior to the 2020 election, several prominent Democrats, including Sens. Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, and Ron Wyden, sent a letter citing reports of vote-switching by machines manufactured by Dominion Systems. They wrote: “These problems threaten the integrity of our elections and demonstrate the importance of election systems that are strong, durable, and not vulnerable to attack.”

 

They were right. Whether or not voting machines were actually compromised, if people can’t trust them, they’re no good. So, we need something more trustworthy. How do we do that?

 

Paper ballots, voter ID, and open counting, for a start. Paper ballots aren’t fraud-proof, but they have several advantages over electronic voting machines. First, they can’t be hacked by someone in Minsk or Guangdong. To change a paper ballot, you need physical access.

 

What’s more, while you can change a vote tally in a computer by flipping some bits – and bits are interchangeable – paper ballots capture more information than simply votes for or against a candidate. Erasing original votes is likely to leave some residue.

 

Creating large numbers of fake ballots is also harder. Computer votes have no identifying characteristics. Details of handwriting, ink color, and so on make each paper ballot unique. If you mass-produced completed ballots, it would be much harder to make them look genuine; a Xerox machine wouldn’t do the job.

 

Of course, votes need to be genuine. Voter fraud is itself a species of voter suppression. If a fraudulent voter casts a ballot, that ballot neutralizes the vote of a legitimate voter who chose a different candidate.

 

Many states (including mine, Tennessee) require a photo ID to vote, as is the custom around the world. Voting by mail is frowned upon. In Europe, 63% of countries ban mail-in ballots except for citizens living abroad; another 22% ban mail-in ballots even for overseas citizens. Most countries that allow mail-in ballots require people to show an ID to obtain one. Some countries – including those where the U.S. has tried to boost democracy, such as Afghanistan and Iraq – have gone further, marking voters (remember the famous “purple finger” photos?) to prevent repeat voting.

 

The goal is simple: one person, one vote – with both person and vote authenticated.

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I’m not the only one to endorse paper ballots. After the Democrats’ Iowa caucuses debacle last year, where a smartphone voting app failed miserably, the New York Times ran a piece headlined “The only safe election is a low-tech election.”

 

And as Sen. (now Vice President) Kamala Harris noted, “Russia can’t hack a piece of paper.” 

 

Of course, to be trusted, votes must also be counted fairly. I recommend an open count at each polling place. Counting votes on the spot would eliminate problems with ballots being “lost” on the way to a central counting facility or being “discovered” in the trunk of a car during the count. Everything should be done out in the open.

 

There should also be accountability for voting officials. Votes lost or found? You lose your job. The responsibility is vital, and there should be serious consequences for failure or dereliction.

 

More at the link: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/06/17/easy_to_vote_hard_to_cheat_145941.html

 

Where is the cheating? 

Edited June 22, 2021 by TH3

[B-Man]

14 minutes ago, TH3 said:

 

Where is the cheating? 

 

Learn to read.

 

 

 

Back to the thread.  Today's the day the democrat party's power grab goes down.

 

 

Worried CBS Frets: What to Do If Dem Voting Power Grab Is Doomed?

by Scott Whitlock

 

Monday marked the 21st day of June, a month that Joe Biden hoped would see the passage of his extreme voting rights power grab, as well as a huge infrastructure bill. So far, neither has happened and CBS This Morning journalists began to fret about what to do next. In fact, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki seemed to indicate that the so-called “For the People” act was doomed. Co-host Anthony Mason asked Psaki if the White House had an alternative strategy: “Jen, as Kris Van Cleave mentioned, a vote is expected as early as Tuesday.

 

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2021/06/21/worried-cbs-frets-what-do-if-dem-voting-power-grab-doomed

 

 

 

Progressives Are Livid at Kyrsten Sinema Because She Understands Long-Term Consequences

https://redstate.com/joesquire/2021/06/22/progressives-are-livid-at-kyrsten-sinema-because-she-understands-long-term-consequences-n400598

 

 

 

 

 

Democrats Will Be Displeased to Learn How the Public (Especially Democrat Voters) View Voter ID

https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2021/06/21/democrats-will-be-displeased-to-learn-how-the-public-especially-democrat-voters-view-voter-id-n400367

 

 

 

[B-Man]

Progressives' cri de coeur: "Where is the President?" on HR1

 

Ah, politics. Where else but in America can the GOP’s “Where is Joe Biden?” campaign before the election get embraced by progressives after it? The Democrats’ tendentious and partisan voting-reform act will get shredded in the Senate this afternoon, which everyone has known for weeks, but progressives want to know why Biden hasn’t lifted a finger to fight for it.

 

Politico reports that progressive ire might shift from Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin to the White House in the aftermath:

 

Progressives are steaming that President JOE BIDEN didn’t use his bully pulpit to try to move the needle on the bill — or strike a deal allowing Congress to block GOP legislatures from curbing access to voting. They want to know how Democratic leaders can claim in one breath that democracy is in jeopardy — and in the next let this legislation crash and burn.

 

Indivisible founder EZRA LEVIN went on a tear about this Monday, declaring in a Twitter thread: “I have reached my WTF moment with Biden on this.” The progressive grassroots leader said BARACK OBAMA “did a live debate with House GOP on the ACA,” BILL CLINTON “gave 18 speeches on NAFTA and deputized [AL] GORE to debate ROSS PEROT on it,” and DONALD TRUMP and GEORGE W. BUSH “were all tax cuts all the time.”

 

“Where is the president?” he asked. “Is saving democracy a priority for this Administration or not? I don’t want to see some tepid public statement. We need to see the President and VP using the full force of their bully pulpit to lead.”

 

Ahem. Did progressives even notice how Biden and Kamala Harris campaigned for their jobs last year? Biden restricted himself to tightly controlled appearances with very few people in attendance, and Harris didn’t get out much more than that. At the time, we assumed this was a political version of Mohammed Ali’s “Rope-a-Dope,” forcing the media to cover Trump rather than Biden. Strategy or not, it succeeded.

 

 

More at the link: https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2021/06/22/progressives-cri-de-coeur-where-is-the-president-on-hr1-n398189

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

28 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Learn to read.

 

 

 

Back to the thread.  Today's the day the democrat party's power grab goes down.

 

 

Worried CBS Frets: What to Do If Dem Voting Power Grab Is Doomed?

by Scott Whitlock

 

Monday marked the 21st day of June, a month that Joe Biden hoped would see the passage of his extreme voting rights power grab, as well as a huge infrastructure bill. So far, neither has happened and CBS This Morning journalists began to fret about what to do next. 

 

 

How about nothing.

 

Do nothing.  

 

Just let us work.  And put back to work those taking advantage of unemployment and stimulus checks and forgiven rent that's all leading to out of control inflation that is most definitely costing Dems the House in 2022.  And President DeSantis to follow in 2024.  

 

 

Try that for a change DC instead of highly partisan abs divisive bull ***t that helps NO ONE.  

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

Amazing how Dem pols are now claiming they never had a problem with an ID requirement. Shows how dumb they believe their voters are. They do some polling , get a result that totally goes against their narrative ,then deny it was ever their position. Dems are truly abhorrent people. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

39 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Amazing how Dem pols are now claiming they never had a problem with an ID requirement. Shows how dumb they believe their voters are. They do some polling , get a result that totally goes against their narrative ,then deny it was ever their position. Dems are truly abhorrent people. 

Republicans are too ya know… just believe different things. Politicians are sleaaazy.

 

Im convinced Balance of power is the only necessary evil holding this federal Schitt  show together. 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

19 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interesting data set, so as it turns out banning IDs or signature verification is about as popular as allowing convicted imprisoned terrorists to vote.
 

go figure..  

[B-Man]

 

Leftists -- We need to change the rules because our ideas don’t stand on merit

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 22, 2021 by B-Man

[Irv]

 

 

[Big Blitz]

5 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

Leftists -- We need to change the rules because our ideas don’t stand on merit

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What an embarrassment these people are. 

 

Did the CNN hack not follow that up with "are you serious right now?" 

[Unforgiven]

7 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

What an embarrassment these people are. 

 

Did the CNN hack not follow that up with "are you serious right now?" 

Anyone with half a brain can see the leftists bs and lies.

Lucky for them many of their voters have far less than half a brain.

[Unforgiven]

 

[B-Man]

 

The Republic Is Preserved – But The Democrats Will Try Insurrection Again

Issues & Insights, by The Editorial Board

 

Republicans have saved this country’s two-party political system. At least for now. The power-hungry Democrats won’t give up easily, though. They’ll redouble their efforts to set themselves up as an unchallengeable political force that rules rather than governs. With Sen. Mitch McConnell and the rest of the Republicans in the 50-50 Senate voting against moving forward with the “For the People Act of 2021,” the Democrats’ plan to put elections under federal rather than state and local authority was shelved Tuesday.

 

https://issuesinsights.com/2021/06/23/the-republic-is-preserved-but-the-democrats-will-try-insurrection-again/

 

 

 

[B-Man]

DON SURBER: Manchin Is Not The Problem: Democrats Are.

 

Democrats did not win the last Senate elections. Republicans did. They did not win by as wide a margin as they needed to maintain control of the Senate, but the American people backed them, not Democrats.

 

And Democrats cannot handle that. They pretend that they received a landslide last November and January, when they actually lost. By believing their own Fake News, Democrats set themselves not only to fail but to fail spectacularly.

 

Republicans won 20 of the 35 senate races last year. Republicans received 49% of the vote, Democrats 47%.

 

This split the Senate 50-50. As president of the Senate, Vice President Kamala Harris decides any tie vote.

 

But Democrats want to pretend that they have this mandate from the people, which they do not have.

 

The echo chamber of the Washington media unthinkingly repeats their talking points. So reliably on message are ABC-CBS-CNN-NBC-MSNBC-AP that I truly believe their anchors are trans-species parrots. After decades of misleading the public, most people no longer follow them down the dark alleys of politics, where liberals mug them.

 

For example, since January the media have called Republican efforts to reform state voting laws Jim Crow. The media portrays Democrats as champions of voting rights, when in fact Democrats want to void state laws and have Washington run state and local elections.

 

The things Democrats want, voters do not want.

 

CNS News reported on its recent poll. It said, “Fully 78% of U.S. voters say asking voters to present a photo as proof of identity is an appropriate method of ensuring election integrity – more than four times the 17.2% who say it’s an unreasonable form of voter suppression. Another 4.8% say they ‘don’t know.'”

 

Plus: “Biden did not use his bully pulpit because he cannot speak well in public. And he needs naps. Lots of them. He called it a day at 2:44 p.m. on Monday. He is not a good salesmen. I doubt he could sell ice cream to Cub Scouts on a hot summer’s day, which is why they kept him in the basement during last fall’s campaign. Democrats have not won the Senate. Acting as if they did fools no one. Blaming Manchin gets them nowhere. And if their plan is to win in 2022 by voting on doomed bills, I see Republicans flipping the Senate.”

 

It would serve them right.

 

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2021/06/manchin-is-not-problem-democrats-are.html

[B-Man]

https://pjmedia.com/columns/stephen-kruiser/2021/06/23/the-morning-briefing-progressives-are-having-a-rough-time-and-its-glorious-n1456270

 

 

KRUISER’S MORNING BRIEF: Progressives Are Having a Rough Time and It’s Glorious. 

 

“Because the Democrats have convinced themselves that their smoke and mirrors bare majority means that they have a mandate, they’re a bit upset.

 

Strap in for some loud shrieks of ‘RAAAAAAACISM’ issuing forth from the usual suspects for the next several weeks.”

 

 

 

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[BillStime]

 

[B-Man]

THE LEFT WILL TRY AGAIN:  

 

Breaking: US Senate preserves filibuster, blocking Orwellian-named “For The People” HR-1.

 

They’re fighting for survival itself. And to keep their crimes covered up.

 

 

https://spinstrangenesscharm.wordpress.com/2021/06/23/breaking-us-senate-preserves-filibuster-blocking-orwellian-named-for-the-people-hr-1/

[All_Pro_Bills]

On 6/22/2021 at 5:49 PM, B-Man said:

 

Leftists -- We need to change the rules because our ideas don’t stand on merit

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You spoke the magic word - Merit.  Eliminating merit or the system of meritocracy is at the heart of everything the left supports.  And everything they oppose.  In their minds nothing is earned.  Everything is the result of privilege or the lack of privilege.  And their most recent fantasy is that its all based on race.  Its at the core of some very stupid ideas which boil down to eliminating the assessment of qualifications or ability in deciding anything.  

Imagine how pro sports or the Olympics would look like if the concept of merit and ability were eliminated.  Too many tall NBA players or too many fast track athletes on the national team.  That's the world they seek.  The liberals dream world is one completely devoted to mediocrity and the pursuit of a lowest common denominator to create an under-performing and dysfunctional society.  

[B-Man]

 

[Doc]

How much of our tax money is this going to waste?

[B-Man]

 

[Chef Jim]

On 6/25/2021 at 8:59 PM, Doc said:

How much of our tax money is this going to waste?

We have to get an accounting of:

 

A. How much in taxes and fees are being collected 

B. What is the money being used for and what it that amount. 
C.  A-B=waste. 
 

Quite simple actually. 

[Big Blitz]

 

 

You do you Pravda.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Big News.

 

The Supreme Court on Thursday ruled in a major voting rights case involving whether Arizona voting restrictions are racially discriminatory.

 

The high court ruled Arizona’s out-of-precinct policy and HB 2023 do not violate the Voting Rights Act and were not enacted with a racially discriminatory purpose. The judgment of the Court of Appeals is now reversed, and the cases are remanded for further proceedings consistent with this opinion.

 

Justice Samuel Alito wrote the opinion for the majority and was joined by Chief Justice John Roberts, Justice Clarence Thomas, Justice Neil Gorsuch, Justice Brett Kavanaugh and Justice Amy Coney Barrett

Justice Stephen Breyer, Justice Sonia Sotomayor and Justice Elena Kagan dissented.

 

 

The restrictions at issue toss out ballots cast out of precinct and ban campaign or community groups from collecting ballots, which GOP critics call "ballot harvesting."

 

Kate Shaw, a Cardozo law professor and ABC News legal analyst, said the ruling was a big win for Republicans and will have real-world implications.

 

"This is a ruling that definitely will make it easier for states to impose restrictions, harder for plaintiffs and voting rights groups to challenge these kinds of restrictions, and could really impact the outcome in close elections going forward," she said.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/supreme-court-rules-major-voting-rights-racial-discrimination/story?id=78182724

 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

[B-Man]

 

THE big news of the day..............not that "we got Trump" fairytale.

 

 

Supreme Court Upholds Arizona Ballot Harvesting Restrictions

 

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/07/supreme-court-upholds-arizona-ballot-harvesting-restrictions/

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2021/07/01/scotus-upholds-arizona-voting-integrity-laws-n399978

 

 

SCOTUS upholds Arizona voting integrity laws

 

 

Arizona Democrats had sought to throw out two voting integrity laws passed in that state in 2016. Those laws have been used as a model for new laws passed in other states since the 2020 elections, so the precedent of this case could prove important.

 

One of the laws states that only the voter, a member of their family, or their caregiver can deliver a completed ballot. The other law requires election officials to reject ballots cast in the wrong precinct. Today, the Supreme Court announced that they found the laws to be constitutional on a 6-3 vote. Be sure to note the spin that NBC News applies to their coverage of this story.

 

{snip}

 

We’re once again seeing the media adopting the insulting language of the Democrats every time they don’t like a new election law, saying that the laws “make it harder for minorities to vote.” I’ve yet to hear a single person explain that rationale coherently.

 

In the Arizona examples, the first law defines who can legally take a completed ballot to be submitted, limiting that choice to the voter themselves, their family members, or a caregiver. Are the plaintiffs somehow claiming that minority voters don’t have family members or the ability to get to their precinct? The second law rejects ballots cast in the wrong precinct. I’m sure that happens from time to time, but the assumption being made by the plaintiffs seems to be that minority voters aren’t smart enough to locate the correct precinct while their white counterparts can manage the task. That’s not a very good look.

 

Regarding the second law, the plaintiffs had also claimed that officials moved polling locations more often in minority districts, leading to confusion or mistakes. There are already rules in place, however, describing when and how polling locations can be changed. If they have proof that election officials have been violating those laws, the answer isn’t to scrap this law. It’s to investigate and arrest the people doing the switching.

 

What we seem to be seeing here is another example of the Supreme Court sticking to their traditional precedent of leaving the specifics of voting rules up to the individual states as long as they don’t prove to be discriminatory. That’s probably the reason that the Democrats continually accuse Republican officials of “discrimination” in crafting voting laws. But whether it’s the rule concerning who can deliver a ballot (which was passed to cut down on ballot harvesting) or a requirement to vote in your own precinct, those laws apply equally to everyone, regardless of race, gender or any other demographic.

 

Now that there are challenges bubbling up over new voting laws in Georgia and many other states, today’s decision will probably prove important. The lower courts will need to consider this case as precedent when hearing the others.

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Banning ballot harvesting isn't a restriction on voting in any way.

 

It is a restriction on who can touch your ballot.

 

Only 11% of the country think ballot harvesting should be legal.

 

The Carter Baker Commission on election integrity specifically warned against it.

 

You don’t have to call regulating it “voter suppression” just because Stacey Abrams does.

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

SUPREME COURT DELIVERS MAJOR BLOW TO DEMOCRATS’ CAMPAIGN AGAINST STATE ELECTION LAWS

 

On the last day before its summer recess, the Supreme Court upheld two Arizona voting provisions that Democrats and civil rights groups challenged as disproportionately burdening minority voters. The vote was 6-3, with only the three hardcore liberals dissenting.

 

Justice Alito wrote the opinion. That’s always a great sign.

 

Much more at the link: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/07/supreme-court-delivers-major-blow-to-dems-campaign-against-state-election-laws.php

 

 

 

 

 

[Doc]

Apparently the defense asked to provide stats on how many voters would be suppressed by these laws and the plaintiffs couldn’t provide any. Shocker. 

[unbillievable]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

Apparently the defense asked to provide stats on how many voters would be suppressed by these laws and the plaintiffs couldn’t provide any. Shocker. 

I wanted to see them explain how it was racist.

[B-Man]

 

 

A Good Day for Free Speech and Free Elections

National Review, by The Editors

 

Legal constitutionalists and political conservatives have had reason to be disappointed at times with the Roberts Court, but today is not one of those days. The Court concluded its 2020-21 term with a pair of 6-3 rulings written by George W. Bush’s appointees (Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito) and joined by all six Republican appointees to the Court. Both reached the right conclusions. Both will advance the progress of the law toward a vibrant space for democracy, by protecting free speech and free and fair elections.

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/07/a-good-day-for-free-speech-and-free-elections/

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

SCOTUS Defends Election Integrity, Democrats Panic

by David Catron

 

On Thursday, the Supreme Court upheld two longstanding provisions of Arizona election law, provoking widespread trepidation among the Democrats. In a 6-3 ruling authored by Justice Samuel Alito, the Court held that it was permissible for the state to limit ballot harvesting and out-of-precinct voting. Such limitations are commonplace throughout the country, but the Democratic National Committee (DNC) took Arizona to court claiming that they violated Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act (VRA). The DNC lost but appealed to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which inevitably ruled against Arizona. SCOTUS overturned that ruling. The panicked Democrats vehemently denounced the Supreme Court’s decision as an undisguised assault on democracy.

 

https://spectator.org/scotus-election-integrity/

 

 

[Doc]

Like I said, and in the vein of "prove there was fraud," prove these laws are racist.  If you can't, they stand.

[B-Man]

 

 

Former Democrat Representative Accidentally Admits: Election Integrity Laws “Could Really Cost Democrats Seats”

 

Democrats go into full-blown panic mode as GOP poised to uphold fair elections... A former Dem rep from Maryland accidentally admitted Democrats could lose congressional seats if Republicans are able to pass more election integrity laws... Former Maryland Rep. Donna Edwards made the admission during a Thursday appearance on MSNBC, saying the GOP’s new rules to secure elections “could really cost Democrats seats in the House and the Senate.”

 

https://www.newswars.com/former-dem-rep-accidentally-admits-election-integrity-laws-could-really-cost-democrats-seats/

 

Read the full transcript of the exchange via RealClearPolitics.com:

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/07/08/donna_edwards_warns_gops_state_voting_restrictions_could_cost_democrats_seats_in_congress.html

 

 

[B-Man]

 

Sounds like a "Filibuster".....................LOL

 

 

 

 

 

Brilliant.........Of all the places to mount this protest, DC is optically the most beneficial to Texas Rs.

 

 

 

[BillStime]