Tiberius Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 8 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: And you believe that a private company silencing and censoring elected officials is a good thing? Whose doing that? You don’t think businesses have a right to refuse service to those that abuse their services? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Whose doing that? You don’t think businesses have a right to refuse service to those that abuse their services? I didn’t ask if they have the right. I asked if you thought it was a good thing. Do you think it’s a good thing to silence and/or censure elected officials? Hmmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I didn’t ask if they have the right. I asked if you thought it was a good thing. Do you think it’s a good thing to silence and/or censure elected officials? Hmmm? For private businesses to have control of their own services??? Umm... ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: For private businesses to have control of their own services??? Umm... ya Excellent. At least I know you’re solidly on the side of censorship. You’ll make a great Communist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 9 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: And you believe that a private company silencing and censoring elected officials is a good thing? Man you sound like a socialist. Funny how you champion free markets and then cry when free markets do what they want to do… Also laughable hearing the cult cry about a private company when their party is purging books from public libraries and school curriculums because they are so freakn insecure about their past and they think covering it up is a viable path. Idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, BillStime said: Man you sound like a socialist. Funny how you champion free markets and then cry when free markets do what they want to do… Also laughable hearing the cult cry about a private company when their party is purging books from public libraries and school curriculums because they are so freakn insecure about their past and they think covering it up is a viable path. Idiots No crying here Billsy. Just making an observation. Good to know where you stand on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Excellent. At least I know you’re solidly on the side of censorship. You’ll make a great Communist! How is that censorship? A business has rules, too. That's a stupid point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Just now, Tiberius said: How is that censorship? A business has rules, too. That's a stupid point I see. So in Tibs world a business can say we don’t like the things you think or say so we’ll refuse service to you. Does that go for a restaurant? How about a car dealership? How about the power company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I see. So in Tibs world a business can say we don’t like the things you think or say so we’ll refuse service to you. Does that go for a restaurant? How about a car dealership? How about the power company? What, if you go to car dealership and abuse the car on a test drive, then (you’d say) too bad for the business this guy should get to do it all the time? 😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: What, if you go to car dealership and abuse the car on a test drive, then (you’d say) too bad for the business this guy should get to do it all the time? 😒 What if a bakery refuses to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: What if a bakery refuses to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding? And you had no issues w that did you… Just like you wouldn’t be crying if Twitter booted AOC… Free markets can do what they want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, BillStime said: And you had no issues w that did you… Just like you wouldn’t be crying if Twitter booted AOC… Free markets can do what they want? You're not answering my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 37 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: What if a bakery refuses to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding? You saying the gays are doing something wrong?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You saying the gays are doing something wrong?? If you think they are doing something wrong you have a right to ban them right? What you think is wrong could be different than what someone else thinks is wrong. (I fully support the gays btw so don't bring that up). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: If you think they are doing something wrong you have a right to ban them right? What you think is wrong could be different than what someone else thinks is wrong. (I fully support the gays btw so don't bring that up). They are not hurting anyone. So nothing wrong. Spreading misinformation like that Greene is can kill people and gum up the economy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 37 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: You're not answering my question. Oh I answered the question… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Tiberius said: They are not hurting anyone. So nothing wrong. Spreading misinformation like that Greene is can kill people and gum up the economy Rachel Maddow made the claim that the vaccine was 100 percent effective and stopped you from getting it and spreading it. Spreading false info like that can kill people and gum up the economy. Why? Because if you tell someone they are protected 100 percent and they then get it they might become skeptical or their friends and family might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: Rachel Maddow made the claim that the vaccine was 100 percent effective and stopped you from getting it and spreading it. Spreading false info like that can kill people and gum up the economy. Why? Because if you tell someone they are protected 100 percent and they then get it they might become skeptical or their friends and family might. And Dr. Robert Malone, the researcher that identified and developed mRNA technology in medicine provided his expert view expressing concerns about the vaccines. Rachel, a network commentator and untrained in medicine is allowed to speak about the vaccines. Robert, a distinguished and world-class expert in mRNA is not allowed to speak about the vaccines. What message does that send? That mis-information is a tool of power and control, not a weapon of dissent or objecting opinions and facts. And the establishments attempt to label dissent as mis-information is compete and total bullsheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Excellent. At least I know you’re solidly on the side of censorship. You’ll make a great Communist! So, a bakery can deny a cake to a gay couple and that is ok?? Trump thinks so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: So, a bakery can deny a cake to a gay couple and that is ok?? Trump thinks so. Falsely put. NO bakery has refused to sell cakes/baked goods to gays. Several have asked not to fill a WEDDING cake order due to religious beliefs, but of course they were condemned for this. Except in the courts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 There's an important distinction here: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/twitter-permanently-suspends-marjorie-taylor-greenes-personal-account-rcna10615 See that? Marjorie Taylor Greene's PERSONAL account is suspended. She still has access to her official account as a member of the House. So did Trump when his personal account - the one he used incessantly to post his inflammatory bs - was suspended. Obama never had a "personal" account as President. It was the White House account. If Marjorie wants to post her conspiracy nonsense on her official account, I guess we'll have to see how twitter responds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Falsely put. NO bakery has refused to sell cakes/baked goods to gays. Several have asked not to fill a WEDDING cake order due to religious beliefs, but of course they were condemned for this. Except in the courts. Seems to me that is refusal and in my books discriminatory 100%. Don't care if it is a wedding or birthday cake, of a frigging fruitcake. My religion believes in blood transfusions so should I not serve birthday cake to those who do not. My religion dies not believe in birthcontrol pills or abortion, so should I not serve those who accept it. I believe in God do should I not sell cakes to atheists. A rose by any color is still a rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Tiberius said: What, if you go to car dealership and abuse the car on a test drive, then (you’d say) too bad for the business this guy should get to do it all the time? 😒 Not so fast. ‘Abuse’ a website by expressing an opinion…when the entire business plan of the website is built upon people expressing their opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 The liberals here are the biggest hypocrites and cry babies. Ban or shutdown anything I don’t agree with. You twist yourselves into pretzels to make it work for you. For once, put your political agenda aside and use common sense! It’s not that difficult. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Westside said: The liberals here are the biggest hypocrites and cry babies. Ban or shutdown anything I don’t agree with. You twist yourselves into pretzels to make it work for you. For once, put your political agenda aside and use common sense! It’s not that difficult. They used to be the party of working people and free speech…but that ship sailed long ago. It’s honestly fascinating to see where they’ve ended up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Not so fast. ‘Abuse’ a website by expressing an opinion…when the entire business plan of the website is built upon people expressing their opinions? For me the issue is relatively straightforward. Its got nothing to do with the rights of private entities to act with impunity. The law is clear there are limitations to private freedoms and their ability to disregard customer agreements, contracts, and regulations. So all these hypothetical comparisons are just that, hypothetical. It distracts from the real issue. Which is demanding the truth and making fact based decisions. Whatever your political, social, or economic views everybody should be demanding that decisions be made on sound facts. Not on politics. But when you mix science with politics most times you get politics. And the example I used is Dr. Robert Malone. The guy that invented mRNA technology and holds all kinds of patents against the technology. He gets banned from Twitter for spreading "mis-information" based on an almost 3 hour Joe Rogan podcast. He raises all kinds of issues and provides what sounds like clear and rational science. Whether you like Joe Rogan or not doesn't matter. Whether you like Robert Malone or not doesn't matter. What matters is the truth. And if he's not qualified to express views on the mRNA vaccines then ask yourself who is then? So how does Twitter determine this guy's views are not sound science and it's mis-information? Who are the experts employed by Twitter that decided Malone is spreading mis-information? What are their qualifications as scientists and medical experts? What are the names of these people? Does jack Dorsey see himself as an expert at mRNA technology? Does Twitter employ or consult with anyone that has these skills and knowledge? The truth once again, is that Twitter or anyone at Twitter has no qualifications to dispute anything this guy says. If they do then come out and show us. Who are your experts? They stay hidden and silent because they're full of crap. So you won't get any answer to those questions. Nor will anyone with the ability to force them to answer to this do so. The censors hide behind a cloak of unanimity. Working in the shadows. It all comes down to we don't like what you're saying so you get blocked. The truth does not matter. How can any rational person support this? Suppressing facts leads to poor and incorrect decisions and conclusions. It seems the only thing that scares people more than the virus is the truth. Edited January 3, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said: For me the issue is relatively straightforward. Its got nothing to do with the rights of private entities to act with impunity. The law is clear there are limitations to private freedoms and their ability to disregard customer agreements, contracts, and regulations. So all these hypothetical comparisons are just that, hypothetical. It distracts from the real issue. Which is demanding the truth and making fact based decisions. Whatever your political, social, or economic views everybody should be demanding that medical decisions be made on sound facts. Not on politics. But when you mix science with politics most times you get politics. And the example I used is Dr. Robert Malone. The guy that invented mRNA technology and holds all kinds of patents against the technology. He gets banned from Twitter for spreading "mis-information" based on an almost 3 hour Joe Rogan podcast. He raises all kinds of issues and provides what sounds like clear and rational science. Whether you like Joe Rogan or not doesn't matter. Whether you like Robert Malone or not doesn't matter. What matters is the truth. And if he's not qualified to express views on the mRNA vaccines then ask yourself who is then? So how does Twitter determine this guy's views are not sound science and it's mis-information? Who are the experts employed by Twitter that decided Malone is spreading mis-information? What are their qualifications as scientists and medical experts? What are the names of these people? Does jack Dorsey see himself as an expert at mRNA technology? Does Twitter employ or consult with anyone that has these skills and knowledge? The truth once again, is that Twitter or anyone at Twitter has no qualifications to dispute anything this guy says. If they do then come out and show us. Who are your experts? They stay hidden and silent because they're full of crap. So you won't get any answer to those questions. Nor will anyone with the ability to force them to answer to this do so. The censors hide behind a cloak of unanimity. Working in the shadows. It all comes down to we don't like what you're saying so you get blocked. The truth does not matter. How can any rational person support this? Suppressing facts leads to poor and incorrect decisions and conclusions. It seems the only thing that scares people more than the virus is the truth. Very well said. I’d suggest that’s it’s simpler than that. If you’re trying to ‘fundamentally transform America’ there’s simply no room, space, or time for voices and opinions that deter you from that central goal. Period! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 33 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It would be way easier if she just said she was going to Washington to impeach the mitherfxver like every decent and acceptable politician does. Come on Man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 32 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: It would be way easier if she just said she was going to Washington to impeach the mitherfxver like every decent and acceptable politician does. Come on Man! Trump for speaker of the house? That's what you will vote for in November? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Who are the bigger face of their party: MTG and Boebert (who will both be gone soon) or "The Squad," who keep getting re-elected? We know the answer and the harsh reality will hit Dems this November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 46 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Trump for speaker of the house? That's what you will vote for in November? I actually find it interesting. Someone said it could happen through some parliamentary procedure. If that’s true then I’m going to throw MY hat into the ring! I’ll do a way better job. (And to answer your question more directly…my vote doesn’t count for sh$t here in California.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 On 3/27/2022 at 8:53 AM, Tiberius said: Veeee hick ul …. how do these people get elected?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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716er Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 On 1/31/2021 at 7:51 AM, Backintheday544 said: If anyone wants to see which party has clearer values: Dem Senator has picture of him groping a boob from 14 years ago. Dems - man you need to step down and leave Congress - and he does. Republican says wildfires were started due to Secret Jewish space lasers, calls for killing for other congressman, and more. Republicans in this thread, that’s fine let’s donate more to her. One party clearly has a clear set of higher values. Also, for 4 years the right on this board were made people were calling them White Nationalists for voting for Trump. Sometimes the shoe fits especially if you’re in this thread saying you want to give her more money and are trying to still support her after the secret Jewish space lasers came out. They still fawn over Marjorie and Matt Gaetz like the pathetic cowards they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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