Chaos Posted December 20, 2020 Author Posted December 20, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 8:19 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: It’s a fact Brady’s number one argument supporting his goat status is about rings and wins. his individual stats and accolades do not separate him from the other greats nearly as much as the wins. The best QBs win maybe not every time but certainly most of the time. It’s that simple Expand So you know my statement is 100% correct.
Ghost_002! Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 8:19 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: It’s a fact Brady’s number one argument supporting his goat status is about rings and wins. his individual stats and accolades do not separate him from the other greats nearly as much as the wins. The best QBs win maybe not every time but certainly most of the time. It’s that simple Expand His stats being in the pack with the wins Is what puts him over... He doesn't need to blow away the competition cause the SB wins do that. Wins>>>stats 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 8:26 PM, Chaos said: So you know my statement is 100% correct. Expand whatever you need to tell yourself bud... just saying until josh beats Mahomes, nobody with a real perspective is saying he’s better. I want him to be the best like everyone here does. But our kid needs to hoist the trophy and out duel the best to get in that conversation. That’s the overarching fact of facts. but you do you... On 12/20/2020 at 9:04 PM, Ghost_002! said: His stats being in the pack with the wins Is what puts him over... He doesn't need to blow away the competition cause the SB wins do that. Wins>>>stats Expand yep 100%
John from Riverside Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 A couple of thoughts on this It was amusing watching a NFL Analyst today look at Teddy B. on TV and watch Teddy destruct when he said Josh Allen was better then Mohommes right now.......it was truly funny like he just couldnt/wouldnt accept it. Watching Josh Allen's two OL messing with him while he was trying to do that interview after the game.......just like 3 friggen kids after winning the high school state championship (and you get a mental picture of just how big Josh Allen is....he was not THAT much smaller then the 2 300 pound plus monster's who were rolling around with him. Like kids at the park.....just having fun playing football with all the confidence in the world. Josh Allen is the quarterback that bills fans DESERVE for sticking with this team through the years of futility........I am 51 years old and I was there crying in my bear through all of those super bowl losses.......to watch this team come around has been a truly beautiful thing. God bless this team 2
Hampton Josh fan Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 Are you not entertained? The guy makes Bills games must see TV. I have to say, Dabol is calling plays for him that only 2 or 3 guys in football could pull off. He just looks like he's having fun and trusting his skill players to make plays. Haven't enjoyed football this much since the no huddle k-gun era.
Matt_In_NH Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 The one difference between Josh and those he is compared to is that the others have post season success and Super Bowl titles. I am talking Mahomes Wilson and Rodgers. So if that is who Josh is then that is what we can and should expect. I agree we can have the discussion but without the hardware it’s not an easy debate to persuade others outside WNY.
Bob in STL Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) I think that JoshAllen is knock, knock, knock in’ on Heavens Door. On 12/21/2020 at 2:38 AM, Bob in STL said: Edited December 21, 2020 by Bob in STL
Norcalbillsfan Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 Mahomes has proved hes the best with a superbowl win, but I would love to see Allen with the insane arsenal of weapons that mahomes has, or even just a kelce for Allen.
Dr. Who Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 1:36 AM, John from Riverside said: A couple of thoughts on this It was amusing watching a NFL Analyst today look at Teddy B. on TV and watch Teddy destruct when he said Josh Allen was better then Mohommes right now.......it was truly funny like he just couldnt/wouldnt accept it. Watching Josh Allen's two OL messing with him while he was trying to do that interview after the game.......just like 3 friggen kids after winning the high school state championship (and you get a mental picture of just how big Josh Allen is....he was not THAT much smaller then the 2 300 pound plus monster's who were rolling around with him. Like kids at the park.....just having fun playing football with all the confidence in the world. Josh Allen is the quarterback that bills fans DESERVE for sticking with this team through the years of futility........I am 51 years old and I was there crying in my bear through all of those super bowl losses.......to watch this team come around has been a truly beautiful thing. God bless this team Expand You know its bad when you're crying in your bear . . .
DCofNC Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 He’s physically the most talented. That’s where it ends only due to lack of continued success. Rodgers is absolutely putting on one of, if not the best, QB performances in a single season, ever. Maholmes is still unreal and Russ has years in showing he’s elite. If Josh goes out and leads the team to a SB win, ok, he’s GOT to be in the discussion, but he’s got to prove it all first. I won’t argue, he’s move himself solidly into the top 8 guys without question, I have him in the top 5 without question, but the Top 5 are all so good, there is question on who is the best and that’s why we have to default to body of work.
machine gun kelly Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 1:19 AM, unclepete said: I think he deserves more mvp buzz Expand So far, he’s ranked third behind Mahomes, and Rodgers. Mahomes has the Falcons and Chargers. Rodgers has the Titans (solid opponent), and Bears. Maybe with an outstanding finish for Allen, maybe he climbs to second, but Mahomes is just not going to lose these games. He’s going to get it again.
ganesh Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 5:57 PM, Chaos said: Best QB does not always win. Reid > McDermott. KC Offensive Supporting cast > Bills. Josh needs to fill the gap. Expand I think if Milano and Edmunds are healthy (unlike the last time we met the Chiefs) then that run game gets stopped. Mahomes then has to take what the Bills backend gives...It will be a far more tighter game. It might come down to which QB gets the ball last.
machine gun kelly Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 But think about it, Brees has been one of the most underrated QB’s the last 20 years and has never won MVP. It’s too bad as we’ve heard so much about Brady and Manning, amd Brees has far more 70% completion years than those two. All three are HOF’ers. Allen needs to win in the playoffs and everyone will notice.
ganesh Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 3:51 AM, DCofNC said: He’s physically the most talented. That’s where it ends only due to lack of continued success. Rodgers is absolutely putting on one of, if not the best, QB performances in a single season, ever. Maholmes is still unreal and Russ has years in showing he’s elite. If Josh goes out and leads the team to a SB win, ok, he’s GOT to be in the discussion, but he’s got to prove it all first. I won’t argue, he’s move himself solidly into the top 8 guys without question, I have him in the top 5 without question, but the Top 5 are all so good, there is question on who is the best and that’s why we have to default to body of work. Expand I believe the league MVP and category MVPs are decided prior to the Super bowl.
MarlinTheMagician Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 Mahomes seems like a really good dude, and his talent is sick. I bet there are very few Bills fans that would rather have Mahomes than Allen. For us at least, he is the best. The best fit. The best temperament. And the best quarterback in the NFL, at the very least the best quarterback in the NFL for the Buffalo Bills.
ganesh Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 On 12/30/2020 at 12:08 PM, MarlinTheMagician said: Mahomes seems like a really good dude, and his talent is sick. I bet there are very few Bills fans that would rather have Mahomes than Allen. For us at least, he is the best. The best fit. The best temperament. And the best quarterback in the NFL, at the very least the best quarterback in the NFL for the Buffalo Bills. Expand The fit of Buffalo and Allen is perfect. 2
Chaos Posted January 12, 2021 Author Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) On 1/5/2021 at 10:01 PM, Chaos said: Expand Thread Title Confirmed: Josh Allen finished 26-of-35 (74%) for 324 yards and 2 TDs. Also added 11/54/1 with his legs. This makes him the first QB to throw for 300+, run for 50+, and complete at least 70% of his passes in a playoff game all-time. Edited January 12, 2021 by Chaos
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