GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 12:06 PM, Ethan in Portland said: Boettger is a liability in the run game. Winters is horrible in pass protection. This offense wins when Allen has time to throw. Stick with Dawkins, Boettger, Morse, Feliciano, and Williams Expand The bolded is not true. Although his worst play last night was a whiff on 3rd and short on the drive in the 4th Quarter where we converted the 4th down. If Boettger makes his block Singletary probably picks it up on 3rd down..... albeit I didn't much like the playcall in any event. 4
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 12:09 PM, GunnerBill said: The bolded is not true. Although his worst play last night was a whiff on 3rd and short on the drive in the 4th Quarter where we converted the 4th down. If Boettger makes his block Singletary probably picks it up on 3rd down..... albeit I didn't much like the playcall in any event. Expand So far we don’t have that many snaps to look at. They struggled running left unless they pulled a guard. I should probably withhold judgement for a few more games. He looked solid in pass protection most of the night. I would rather see Bates get some snaps if Felicanio gets hurt or if Morse goes down again instead of Winters. Full disclosure I liked the Winters signing and thought he was the best option early in the season. He’s just too much of a liability in the pass game.
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 12:23 PM, Ethan in Portland said: So far we don’t have that many snaps to look at. They struggled running left unless they pulled a guard. I should probably withhold judgement for a few more games. He looked solid in pass protection most of the night. I would rather see Bates get some snaps if Felicanio gets hurt or if Morse goes down again instead of Winters. Full disclosure I liked the Winters signing and thought he was the best option early in the season. He’s just too much of a liability in the pass game. Expand Boettger > Bates. I have said it for a fair while. Seems the coaching staff agrees. 2
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 12:23 PM, GunnerBill said: Boettger > Bates. I have said it for a fair while. Seems the coaching staff agrees. Expand Agree but I’d like to see Bates get a few reps over Winters if any of the new starting interior linemen go down again 2
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 12:28 PM, Ethan in Portland said: Agree but I’d like to see Bates get a few reps over Winters if any of the new starting interior linemen go down again Expand Got ya.
CLTbills Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 12:28 PM, Ethan in Portland said: Agree but I’d like to see Bates get a few reps over Winters if any of the new starting interior linemen go down again Expand Can't argue with that.
Simon Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 12:09 PM, GunnerBill said: The bolded is not true. Although his worst play last night was a whiff on 3rd and short on the drive in the 4th Quarter where we converted the 4th down. If Boettger makes his block Singletary probably picks it up on 3rd down..... albeit I didn't much like the playcall in any event. Expand Just a note that is was actually Moss on that play. McDermott had finally got down from his high horse and put him back on the field for a snap, only to see him get blown up 3 yrds in the backfield by a DT that beat Boettger to the spot.
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 1:06 PM, Simon said: Just a note that is was actually Moss on that play. McDermott had finally got down from his high horse and put him back on the field for a snap, only to see him get blown up 3 yrds in the backfield by a DT that beat Boettger to the spot. Expand Thanks! Yep that was the play I was on about. And now you mention it I do recall it was Moss. It was almost 4am for me at that point..... you gotta make allowances.... 🤣 1
Simon Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 1:14 PM, GunnerBill said: Thanks! Yep that was the play I was on about. And now you mention it I do recall it was Moss. It was almost 4am for me at that point..... you gotta make allowances.... 🤣 Expand Good grief, Tommy. By now, you must be on your 12th cuppa today ; - )
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 Mongo rocking baby Beasley after the touchdown was the best.
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 1:18 PM, Simon said: Good grief, Tommy. By now, you must be on your 12th cuppa today ; - ) Expand Annoyingly after getting to bed at 5am I still woke up at 8.45 (my normal time in this working from home world). I am just having a cuppa and then an afternoon nap will be in order.
Brennan Huff Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 Yeah but do you guys remember when Winters pulled that truck by himself? That was pretty neat
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 5:24 AM, MiltonWaddams said: It has to be Shnowman-Ike-Morse-Mongo-Williams going forth. Forcing Winters in at RG week after week when Mongo works better there and Ike is a very good LG has been a mystery that needs to be solved. Expand Problem is Feliciano and Williams are UFAs
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 2:03 PM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Problem is Feliciano and Williams are UFAs Expand I think they will bring Feliciano back. They might even sacrifice Morse to do it. That he is supposedly Allen's biggest buddy on the team doesn't hurt either. Williams I am pretty sure will get paid somewhere else.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 5:24 AM, Albany,n.y. said: I noticed the switch to Boettger on the opening drive & was very happy to see Mongo at RG, Boettger at LG and Winters at left out. Expand OK so Winters started on the right side, Mongo on the left, but then quickly replaced Winters with Ike and moved Mongo to the other side? Was wondering about that as saw Winters started, then didn't notice much till Mongo got hurt, then only noticed came back in on right side.
Shaw66 Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 I didn't notice that Feliciano returned. I was worried that he'd miss some time. He really is a key part of the oline. The performance of the line is noticeably different when he's on the field. 1
Albany,n.y. Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 2:13 PM, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: OK so Winters started on the right side, Mongo on the left, but then quickly replaced Winters with Ike and moved Mongo to the other side? Was wondering about that as saw Winters started, then didn't notice much till Mongo got hurt, then only noticed came back in on right side. Expand Boettger started at LG, Mongo at RG. Winters was on the bench most of the game except when Mongo got dinged. The TV announcers were wrong when they had Winters starting-he wasn't on the field. 1
MrEpsYtown Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 7:10 AM, Bubba Gump said: Beane getting Mongo was just as good as getting Beasley and Diggs. Hopefully he can poach a true #1 RB next off-season. Expand Agreed but I have to give a lot of that credit to Bobby Johnson the OL coach. Feliciano was clearly one of his guys from his time with the Raiders. Even though Johnson was the tight ends coach, he kind of took Feliciano under his wing. All in all, great stuff. 1
TheFunPolice Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 I imagine they will re-sign Feliciano to a manageable 3-4 year deal. He is young enough still and has proven himself a key player and a morale booster on offense who his teammates love. Something like 4 years, $32 would be about right. That would be $8 million average per year, which would rank 17-18th in the league. I was a little surprised when I saw how much guards are making, although it makes a lot of sense given the lack of quality OL play around the league. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/guard/
PaattMaann Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 7:10 AM, Bubba Gump said: Beane getting Mongo was just as good as getting Beasley and Diggs. Hopefully he can poach a true #1 RB next off-season. Expand we have him and he goes by the nickname of Motor. This offense doesnt need "a true #1 RB". Motor doesnt have game breaking speed, but as you saw last night on the 4th down play inside the 49ers 5 yard line, he has enough speed to get to the edge and get a quality first. He breaks tackle after tackle, has excellent vision and reliable hands. He is our number 1 back. Learn to love it.
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