Niagara Dude Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) Jordan Phillips gave the Bills a huge push up the middle and were not getting that this season, now we have our ends just racing up field . QB'S are just stepping up and making throws, huge error not resigning him. This defence is bad because we cannot get pressure and our DB'S cannot stick we receivers for extended time, our pass rush is trash Edited October 14, 2020 by Niagara Dude 13 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Star also got a lot of hate but his value is also showing currently. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Kyle Williams. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I’ve been saying this from game one about Jordan and star! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, buffalobillswin said: Star also got a lot of hate but his value is also showing currently. Sean needs to do something because this is just going to get worse 1 minute ago, Chicharito said: I’ve been saying this from game one about Jordan and star! No push, he already has 2 sacks and multiple pressures with Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I think there was some hubris on the part of Beane in not bringing back Phillips or Shaq Lawson, as if the defensive line is just a plug and play situation where middling FA signings can be slotted in and there won't be a difference. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 We just need dogs.. and Jordan Phillips was a dog. I know we all love Tre, but I think I’d rather have Ramsey over him based of his 4 games and then back injury before the Tennessee Covid’s. As the highest paid guy, he’s the tone setter for this defense. When he couldn’t go tonight, probably should have seen, yet another, trash bag D performance coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: I think there was some hubris on the part of Beane in not bringing back Phillips or Shaq Lawson, as if the defensive line is just a plug and play situation where middling FA signings can be slotted in and there won't be a difference. I don’t think we should have paid them as that’s not how great teams are built. But we definitely miss both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Our pass rush is abysmal. Did not think we would miss him this much. Zero pass rush and two starting corners out is obviously a recipe for disaster, which we saw tonight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonderful Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Oliver too small to be effective 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Defense needs to be gutted.. Frazier and Washington need to go.. been given vast resources on defense and have done nothing with it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsfanmiamioh said: I don’t think we should have paid them as that’s not how great teams are built. But we definitely miss both of them. I guess my problem is that they combined for 40% of our sacks last season, and being that that was the case I would have liked to see a bigger splash than picking up Jefferson, Addison, Butler and drafting Epenesa. Only Addison is known as a pass rush specialist out of that group and he's 33 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 After watching the game tonight both O-Lines were just outright holding. The only thing you might be able to do to counter is a bull rush but I don’t think any of our D-Line has that move. The two guys that could bull rush Phillips and Lawson are not on the team anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Butler, Jefferson, and Addison have all been complete disappointments and Edmunds has been terrible. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like there is any practical fix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, SageAgainstTheMachine said: I guess my problem is that they combined for 40% of our sacks last season, and being that that was the case I would have liked to see a bigger splash than picking up Jefferson, Addison, Butler and drafting Epenesa. Only Addison is known as a pass rush specialist out of that group and he's 33 now. I think it just became a numbers game. We paid Schnowman, Tre, Poyer and will have to pay JA. I don’t disagree we miss the production but I just think the resources are better used elsewhere. Espenesa is an early disappointment. Also would be nice to see Jerry do something that isn’t negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneck Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Don't know his cap ###, but could we trade (2nd and 4th) for Jerry Tillery of the Chargers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Still boggles my mind why we didn’t resign him. Instead, we gave basically the same money to Mario Addison who hasn’t done squat. McD and Beane out smarted themselves with this one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Still boggles my mind why we didn’t resign him. Instead, we gave basically the same money to Mario Addison who hasn’t done squat. McD and Beane out smarted themselves with this one. All the free agents signings look like a waste, i always say its best to spend more on play makers then a bunch of scrubs Edited October 14, 2020 by Niagara Dude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I wish they’d kept Phillips. The pass rush is nonexistent right now. Epenesa was only noticeable on his boneheaded offside. The refs were atrocious, but a lack of heart and discipline cost them the game, not officiating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 You can't fix the trenches in season. The defense is going to be bad this year. Going to need to out score everyone, play with leads, and no turnovers. Josh has to be perfect against teams with excellent offenses. That's: Chiefs Seattle Pittsburgh 49ers (if fully healthy) Cardinals Like I said yesterday. We can get away with a bad defense so long as we stay healthy on offense. We SHOULD beat and wont need 30 points to beat Patriots at least once Dolphins Jets Denver Chargers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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