Tiberius Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Romney, R-Utah, backed up his decision by saying it’s not “written in the stars” that the court should have a liberal bent, and Trump’s pick will tip the nation’s high court to become more conservative. It’s “appropriate,” he told reporters at the Capitol, “for a nation which is, if you will, center right, to have a court which reflects a set of right points of view.” https://apnews.com/be4aa94786c66bd13763ea8ee30e08a6 The only thing making the government right wing is the Constitution under representing voters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Maybe flesh out what you mean by 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: only thing making the government right wing is the Constitution under representing voters Do you mean the electoral college? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Hello, This is a friendly notice to inform you that the following post was created by a troll(s) on this forum. The creator of this post has no intentions of having an adult conversation on the topic they’re intending to create. While the content or expressions listed by said poster may reflect an actual perspective, the perspective is overshadowed by this posters history of creating topics that are meant to instigate, spam and disrupt an otherwise civilized political conversation. You can view the content against the poster’s reputation to make an informed decision for yourself (if you choose). The best way to remove said posters, spam and instigation from a forum is to not respond beyond this message. Thank you. 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The only thing making the government right wing is the Constitution BINGO!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 49 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Maybe flesh out what you mean by Do you mean the electoral college? That’s fine, but is that the only way you think Democrats are under represented? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: That’s fine, but is that the only way you think Democrats are under represented? elections have consequences... said in my best obamanation voice... Edited September 22, 2020 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Foxx said: elections have consequences... said in my best obamanation voice... Doesn’t change the fact this is a center left population and conservative (for now) governing system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 46 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Maybe flesh out what you mean by Do you mean the electoral college? The electoral college was created as a prerequisite for smaller populations states to ratify the agreement. The concern was a few large population states could control the Federal government (however small it was at the start) and dictate policy to the majority of smaller population states. This is no less true today than it was in 1787 given the enormous power vested in the Federal government. Proportional government supporting states rights was also central to the creation of the Senate with equal representation and the House which is divided among the states based on population. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, All_Pro_Bills said: The electoral college was created as a prerequisite for smaller populations states to ratify the agreement. The concern was a few large population states could control the Federal government (however small it was at the start) and dictate policy to the majority of smaller population states. This is no less true today than it was in 1787 given the enormous power vested in the Federal government. Proportional government supporting states rights was also central to the creation of the Senate with equal representation and the House which is divided among the states based on population. I understand all this- I was curious why he believes this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Doesn’t change the fact this is a center left population and conservative (for now) governing system it's really not. get ready for the false popular vote mantra in 3...2...1 ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: The electoral college was created as a prerequisite for smaller populations states to ratify the agreement. The concern was a few large population states could control the Federal government (however small it was at the start) and dictate policy to the majority of smaller population states. This is no less true today than it was in 1787 given the enormous power vested in the Federal government. Proportional government supporting states rights was also central to the creation of the Senate with equal representation and the House which is divided among the states based on population. Doesn’t change my point, center left country, EC helps conservatives, for now. 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: it's really not. get ready for the false popular vote mantra in 3...2...1 ... You just don’t understand how the system works then 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I understand all this- I was curious why he believes this. I don’t disagree with the premise there, but it subverts popular rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Romney, R-Utah, backed up his decision by saying it’s not “written in the stars” that the court should have a liberal bent, and Trump’s pick will tip the nation’s high court to become more conservative. It’s “appropriate,” he told reporters at the Capitol, “for a nation which is, if you will, center right, to have a court which reflects a set of right points of view.” https://apnews.com/be4aa94786c66bd13763ea8ee30e08a6 The only thing making the government right wing is the Constitution under representing voters While this thread in theory is one of the OP's better threads it still points to the need to impose a limit on threads over a one week or one month period. This is a more organic idea by him but still is just one piece in the 10,000 piece puzzle of various light clouds and blue sky with extremely minimal variation or contrast. By the way the Bastille and the guillotine were products of popular rule. While we all like to put light slams on one another here I wish that the OP would consider if the cultural revolution that happened during the 1960's happened a generation or two earlier that he along with others might not be here today if the mothers had a choice to abort those fetuses. A person might say so what but it would be ironic to ponder that thought on a board that provides a source of satisfaction to that same person that they otherwise would have never experienced. While we are at it would we have had Einstein or any of the other numerous contributors of the 20th Century from a poor background or even a middle class or rich background if the choice to abort was as easy as deciding what we want for dinner? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: The electoral college was created as a prerequisite for smaller populations states to ratify the agreement. The concern was a few large population states could control the Federal government (however small it was at the start) and dictate policy to the majority of smaller population states. This is no less true today than it was in 1787 given the enormous power vested in the Federal government. Proportional government supporting states rights was also central to the creation of the Senate with equal representation and the House which is divided among the states based on population. ...and it has worked just fine since 1787.......until the Pantsuit lost and the Dems cried foul, demanding its abolishment......so if Trump wins the popular vote and Sleepy Joe wins the EC, due to Cali & NY's rampant "blueness", is it THEN a keeper?......a tad hypocritical?...naw, no way................. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 The entire left/right spectrum is a fallacy intended to show both ends as supreme authoritarian control. It make no sense In the United States, maybe Europe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dubs said: The entire left/right spectrum is a fallacy intended to show both ends as supreme authoritarian control. It make no sense In the United States, maybe Europe. ...but doesn't "the middle" require "bi-partisan compromise"?........and when the hell is the LAST time you saw THAT?.....a Congressional approval rating of 18% tells me these 535 clowns would fight over what day it is......BUT they're "doing the people's business"...I do "my business" EVERY morning at 5:30AM.......SAME result......at least I'm "relieved"..... Edited September 22, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: While this thread in theory is one of the OP's better threads it still points to the need to impose a limit on threads over a one week or one month period. This is a more organic idea by him but still is just one piece in the 10,000 piece puzzle of various light clouds and blue sky with extremely minimal variation or contrast. By the way the Bastille and the guillotine were products of popular rule. While we all like to put light slams on one another here I wish that the OP would consider if the cultural revolution that happened during the 1960's happened a generation or two earlier that he along with others might not be here today if the mothers had a choice to abort those fetuses. A person might say so what but it would be ironic to ponder that thought on a board that provides a source of satisfaction to that same person that they otherwise would have never experienced. While we are at it would we have had Einstein or any of the other numerous contributors of the 20th Century from a poor background or even a middle class or rich background if the choice to abort was as easy as deciding what we want for dinner? Yes, censorship is the answer. Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yes, censorship is the answer. Wow Yeah, letting people with agendas chit bomb the place is the answer. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I understand all this- I was curious why he believes this. It is a "feeling" of his. No evidence. Just the constant repetition that the population is growing more and more liberal. He will need watching come November 4th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Yeah, letting people with agendas chit bomb the place is the answer. Wow. ....well chit favors chit bombs, right?.......consider the source......Fecal Freddie....AGAIN............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Yeah, letting people with agendas chit bomb the place is the answer. Wow. Censorship. Putin is smiling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Tibs, every post he starts.... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Censorship. Putin is smiling at Tiberius for trying to gaslight the American public. FIFY (at no cost to you)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 This is the latest Liberal talking point. Libtards are underrepresented in government even though they are a majority of the population. Sucks to live in a totally liberal state where you only get two senators. You want to live on top of each other - then deal with the fecal stench you create. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, Nanker said: This is the latest Liberal talking point. Libtards are underrepresented in government even though they are a majority of the population. Sucks to live in a totally liberal state where you only get two senators. You want to live on top of each other - then deal with the fecal stench you create. Yes, this whole mindset is consistent with their central control approach. Pesky states are just in the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: What are those values and where does Biden fit in regarding those values? I’ll give you extra credit if you can do it without mentioning Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, Chef Jim said: What are those values and where does Biden fit in regarding those values? I’ll give you extra credit if you can do it without mentioning Trump. Simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: Simple What are those values and where does Biden fit in with those values? Edited September 23, 2020 by Chef Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I think this is where Tibs understands we live in a republic not a democracy and should thank God for it. The will of the people is fickle and can change quickly but laws are meant to change slowly. Following laws can be hard enough when it is based on logic and standards, it is virtually impossible when they change on the whims of the masses. Be thankful we are a republic as long as we can keep it. 59 minutes ago, BillStime said: Simple Dude you must be kidding. My students know people proud of our country are Trump people. Those that whine and complain about every little thing are the Biden people. You just want everyone as unhappy as you. The fact I am rich pisses you off and you want to destroy my success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I think this is where Tibs understands we live in a republic not a democracy and should thank God for it. The will of the people is fickle and can change quickly but laws are meant to change slowly. Following laws can be hard enough when it is based on logic and standards, it is virtually impossible when they change on the whims of the masses. Be thankful we are a republic as long as we can keep it. Dude you must be kidding. My students know people proud of our country are Trump people. Those that whine and complain about every little thing are the Biden people. You just want everyone as unhappy as you. The fact I am rich pisses you off and you want to destroy my success 👆👆👆 😂😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Dude you must be kidding. My students know people proud of our country are Trump people. Those that whine and complain about every little thing are the Biden people. You just want everyone as unhappy as you. The fact I am rich pisses you off and you want to destroy my success In the last 10 years I’ve lived in both the most liberal part of California (if not the country) and one of the more conservative areas. One is very happy go lucky and goes about it’s daily lives without many worries or cares. The other whines, *****, complains and is incredibly angry. Let’s see if you can figure out which is which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 We are a Center - Right country. Tibsy's fantasies notwithstanding The U.S. Remained Center-Right, Ideologically, in 2019 news.gallup.com › poll › remained-center-right-ideologic... Jan 9, 2020 - 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 9 hours ago, BillStime said: 👆👆👆 😂😂😂 The fact you think it a statement of fact, that we live in Republic, is funny is about all I need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 11 hours ago, Chef Jim said: What are those values and where does Biden fit in regarding those values? I’ll give you extra credit if you can do it without mentioning Trump. I think the first value she refers to is the truth...tell it... The second value is honor... Both of which are impossible for trump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 9 hours ago, B-Man said: We are a Center - Right country. Tibsy's fantasies notwithstanding The U.S. Remained Center-Right, Ideologically, in 2019 news.gallup.com › poll › remained-center-right-ideologic... Jan 9, 2020 - Then why have Democrats won the majority of popular vote in all but one of the Presidential races over the past two decades? Nope, this is a center left people, ruled by a right wing government, for now 10 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I think this is where Tibs understands we live in a republic not a democracy and should thank God for it. Thank god fore what? That the minority can run roughshod over the majority of the citizens? That's sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Then why have Democrats won the majority of popular vote in all but one of the Presidential races over the past two decades? Nope, this is a center left people, ruled by a right wing government, for now Thank god fore what? That the minority can run roughshod over the majority of the citizens? That's sick The fact that you read the reasons but decided to ignore it tells me you have no reason for your statement but just your feels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: The fact that you read the reasons but decided to ignore it tells me you have no reason for your statement but just your feels. I have no problem with a republic, but it should do a better job of equal representation Now the minority of voters rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Then why have Democrats won the majority of popular vote in all but one of the Presidential races over the past two decades? Nope, this is a center left people, ruled by a right wing government, for now Thank god fore what? That the minority can run roughshod over the majority of the citizens? That's sick Left or Right, Bush, Obama, or Trump. When I look at my life I just have to say I don't notice any difference. I go to work every day, pay my taxes (which keep going up), pay my bills, try to save a couple bucks, and go about my business and go out of my way not to bother anybody.. Same with all my neighbors, friends, co-workers, and acquaintances. I think that's the way it is with most people no matter where they live or whatever their background and make up might be. Maybe the people on the fringe left or right one percent see it differently but I suspect the majority of Americans feel just like I do. If everybody just did that we might not have any problems or certainly a lot fewer. But there's always somebody trying to push their crap on somebody else. I know lots of liberals and lots of conservatives and they don't support fringe elements on either side of the isle. Nobody sits around and suggests we need more poverty or more racism and bias, or more poorly uneducated citizens or more homeless or worse healthcare for people. The debate is about the solutions and how to go about it all. Most of this left/right is just election year political theater. And no matter who wins the election the next day me and everybody else will get up and do it all over again. Like it was once said "Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: I have no problem with a republic, but it should do a better job of equal representation Now the minority of voters rules So we should throw more women in jail for better representation? We have a system of laws and as long as the laws are applied properly and openly the system is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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