4merper4mer Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, Backintheday544 said: It could depend on the split of the NE and ME votes. GA to Biden changes everything. Hard to tell if NYT is accurate. They had Trumps chances at 3.1 as the highest I saw, so to be plus on Biden now is interesting. I was assuming Ga/NC to Trump there. I also think the Az comp,aiming is silly. If all of the above are true I think two out of three MI/PA/WI does it either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: I was assuming Ga/NC to Trump there. I also think the Az comp,aiming is silly. If all of the above are true I think two out of three MI/PA/WI does it either way. I didn’t think GA would go Biden early in the night but NYT has Biden at the advantage with a lot of vote in. AP calls MN for Biden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, Backintheday544 said: I didn’t think GA would go Biden early in the night but NYT has Biden at the advantage with a lot of vote in. AP calls MN for Biden. I'm calling Montana and Alaska for Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Actually I read that PA ballots that come in after today are void, the postmark thing was shot down in court, iirc. But I'm tired and maybe that was a different state. Bedtime... Supreme Court ruled yesterday that they can count the postmarked ones. 3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: I'm calling Montana and Alaska for Trump I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 How significant is it if ga goes to biden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Process said: How significant is it if ga goes to biden? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Process said: How significant is it if ga goes to biden? 16 votes. Now that Biden has MN, changes the calculus on WI, PA. AZ and GA gets Biden to a guaranteed 260. Biden would just need 1 of WI, MI, PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, Backintheday544 said: 16 votes. Now that Biden has MN, changes the calculus on WI, PA. AZ and GA gets Biden to a guaranteed 260. Biden would just need 1 of WI, MI, PA. Twitter making it seem like GA is actually in play for Biden but fox news basically just called it for trump and made it seem like it will be official shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Process said: Twitter making it seem like GA is actually in play for Biden but fox news basically just called it for trump and made it seem like it will be official shortly Here’s the NYT needle: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/forecast-president.html They were one of the first to give Trump the best odds 4 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: I'm not understanding that one, been watching GA and Trump has been slowly adding to his lead from like 75% reporting to 82% now... NYT map still shows it red, def not leaning blue. There’s a ton of the cities not in. Falcons stadium had a water main break that delayed a ton of votes too. Bovada down to -150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Trump is going to win. We need to let democracy win and move on with our lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 9/1/2020 at 9:09 AM, thenorthremembers said: You'd think after 2016 Dems would stop looking at polls. On 9/1/2016 polls had Clinton at 302 electoral votes, she ended with 227. She was also twice the candidate Biden is. They create the poles in order to try and away voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Trump gets Iowa and Florida per ABC. Expected after the results we have so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: There’s a ton of the cities not in. Falcons stadium had a water main break that delayed a ton of votes too. Bovada down to -150. The Left needed some way to destroy those ballots and replace them. How convenient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan20 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: There’s a ton of the cities not in. Falcons stadium had a water main break that delayed a ton of votes too. Bovada down to -150. Atlanta did a really great job opening up the Hawks arena for voting. I bet they got a lot more turnout than you would expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: The Left needed some way to destroy those ballots and replace them. How convenient. those ballots in Atlanta were going Dem. plus officials said home were destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: There’s a ton of the cities not in. Falcons stadium had a water main break that delayed a ton of votes too. Bovada down to -150. This is 100% right. According to NYT, DeKalb county is only 1/3 in. Biden is up by 80k votes there (suburb of Atlanta). I believe that NYT is expecting that the remaining votes are mail in, therefore likely larger for Biden. That makes up ~160,000 votes in that county ALONE. Then more of the Atlanta vote is still missing, also presumed the mail in. Also they have this note: "So far, Biden appears to have flipped Mitchell County. According to turnout estimates, around 690,000 votes remain in counties won by Hillary Clinton in 2016. Trump 2016 counties have around 110,000 votes left to report. 3m ago" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, nkreed said: This is 100% right. According to NYT, DeKalb county is only 1/3 in. Biden is up by 80k votes there (suburb of Atlanta). I believe that NYT is expecting that the remaining votes are mail in, therefore likely larger for Biden. That makes up ~160,000 votes in that county ALONE. Then more of the Atlanta vote is still missing, also presumed the mail in. Also they have this note: "So far, Biden appears to have flipped Mitchell County. According to turnout estimates, around 690,000 votes remain in counties won by Hillary Clinton in 2016. Trump 2016 counties have around 110,000 votes left to report. 3m ago" IF GA goes Biden, I think it’s over. We will probably see a GA- WI and then no one cares about P.A. being the slow poke. We need national election reform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I expect GA will not be called in the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I think Trump's play is going to be to say that all the votes in Altanta and Pittsburgh shouldn't count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, nkreed said: I expect GA will not be called in the next few days. GA should be. Not sure their auto-recounts tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, Backintheday544 said: GA should be. Not sure their auto-recounts tho. The recount process is something I would have to look into. Since there is a good likelihood of this being within 0.2 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 **waiting is the hardest part** Tom Petty I would have loved if we had a clear victor tonight but clearly that isn't going to happen. But for our POTUS to declare "we won't let them steal the election" to me is outrageous. Every vote needs counted and for he to insinuate otherwise is stoking flames of the very violence that he blames the democrats of acting out in the event of their loss. If he really loved this country he wouldn't say such a thing. If he was "winning" or if he indeed does win those claims would disappear Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, dma0034 said: I think Trump's play is going to be to say that all the votes in Altanta and Pittsburgh shouldn't count Biden's play is to see how many votes he needs to make up in PA and then start counting mail ins in Philly. If he needs 100k he can win Philly 110k to 9k Just now, Muppy said: **waiting is the hardest part** Tom Petty I would have loved if we had a clear victor tonight but clearly that isn't going to happen. But for our POTUS to declare "we won't let them steal the election" to me is outrageous. Every vote needs counted and for he to insinuate otherwise is stoking flames of the very violence that he blames the democrats of acting out in the event of their loss. If he really loved this country he wouldn't say such a thing. If he was "winning" or if he indeed does win those claims would disappear Book it. He should definitely let them steal the election, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: Biden's play is to see how many votes he needs to make up in PA and then start counting mail ins in Philly. If he needs 100k he can win Philly 110k to 9k He should definitely let them steal the election, don't you think? straw mans don't fly with me sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Biden's play is to see how many votes he needs to make up in PA and then start counting mail ins in Philly. If he needs 100k he can win Philly 110k to 9k Really? Cause Repubs have claimed election fraud for years but can't show anything. It's non existent. 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: He should definitely let them steal the election, don't you think? Steal, how? By allowing the process to play out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, nkreed said: Really? Cause Repubs have claimed election fraud for years but can't show anything. It's non existent. Steal, how? By allowing the process to play out? Why would they stop counting votes in Philly tonight? How does that make sense? FYI I think if there is a place to complain about Trump's reactions it is Az. Math says he has lost there and of course they should count the remaining votes but there aren't going to be enough. Edited November 4, 2020 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Why would they stop counting votes in Philly tonight? How does that make sense? FYI I think if there is a place to complain about Trump's reactions it is Az. Math says he has lost there and of course they should count the remaining votes but there aren't going to be enough. People need sleep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Why would they stop counting votes in Philly tonight? How does that make sense? They haven't. https://fusion.inquirer.com/politics/election/philadelphia-mail-ballot-counting-2020-election-20201104.html 6 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: FYI I think if there is a place to complain about Trump's reactions it is Az. Math says he has lost there and of course they should count the remaining votes but there aren't going to be enough. I agree it's a poor place to make that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Trump holds Texas, Florida and Iowa he will also likely get a big win in NC. Biden holds all the Hillary states and takes AZ. Georgia leaning Trump but not firm. WI, PA, and MI will likely decide the election. Trump leads but early votes will be counted. Biden also making small gains in the funky Nebraska and Maine congressional districts. In the end I think Biden will for sure end up with Wisconsin and likely PA. MI up in the air but might not be relevant. Overall I think the math is looking good for Biden to snake AZ, the 2 Congressional Districts and likely Wisconson. That means it comes down to Michigan and PA. Not ruling out Georgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Trump holds Texas, Florida and Iowa he will also likely get a big win in NC. Biden holds all the Hillary states and takes AZ. Georgia leaning Trump but not firm. WI, PA, and MI will likely decide the election. Trump leads but early votes will be counted. Biden also making small gains in the funky Nebraska and Maine congressional districts. In the end I think Biden will for sure end up with Wisconsin and likely PA. MI up in the air but might not be relevant. Overall I think the math is looking good for Biden to snake AZ, the 2 Congressional Districts and likely Wisconson. That means it comes down to Michigan and PA. Not ruling out Georgia. Biden just got NE district! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: Biden just got NE district! Basically going to come down to GA, PA, MI, and WI. I suspect Trump will hold GA and Biden will hold WI. Which means that Biden can carry either MI and PA to win. Dam such a close race. Was expecting Biden to get NC in addition to AZ. Hopefully we know more by the morning. I am on the West Coast and I it is already 11pm and this thing might not be over for days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Basically going to come down to GA, PA, MI, and WI. I suspect Trump will hold GA and Biden will hold WI. Which means that Biden can carry either MI and PA to win. Dam such a close race. Was expecting Biden to get NC in addition to AZ. Hopefully we know more by the morning. I am on the West Coast and I it is already 11pm and this thing might not be over for days. Biden is going to get GA; The math just adds up to it. It will come down to PA, WI and MI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, dma0034 said: Biden is going to get GA; The math just adds up to it. It will come down to PA, WI and MI You may end up being right but Trump is currently still a pretty big favorite to win GA according to the betting markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, dma0034 said: Biden is going to get GA; The math just adds up to it. It will come down to PA, WI and MI If BIden gets GA and holds AZ/Maine that is huge because than PA and MI become irrelevant because he can win with just WI. I am not ready to call that. I think right now you can likely say AZ is a likely gain for Biden as are the funky Nebraska and Maine district gains. GA, PA, MI and WI are the toss ups. Just now, Process said: You may end up being right but Trump is currently still a pretty big favorite to win GA according to the betting markets. Betting markets are useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Process said: You may end up being right but Trump is currently still a pretty big favorite to win GA according to the betting markets. NYT has it leaning Biden. It makes sense. Altanta is going to put Biden over Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) Holy *****. He is actually inciting violence. I didn't think he'd be stupid enough to make these statements... The idea that casted ballots shouldn't be counted because he was winning before the count was done is just ridiculous. Yikes. Edited November 4, 2020 by nkreed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, nkreed said: Holy *****. He is actually inciting violence. I didn't think he'd be stupid enough to make these statements.... This is embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Dude claimed victory in states he didn't win yet. Yup yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, nkreed said: Holy *****. He is actually inciting violence. I didn't think he'd be stupid enough to make these statements... The idea that casted ballots shouldn't be counted because he was winning before the count was done is just ridiculous. Yikes. This guy will literally be in jail if he isn't president. So he will burn the country down before doing the right thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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