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14 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


I’d love to know what number of people sold on Russian collusion actually reviewed the Facebook post contents. They attacked both sides of polarizing issues and seem more about sewing social conflict and unrest than promoting candidates… they spent 100k on FA books adds, with a few hundred accounts. 
 

no matter who might or might not have been involved if the dems think 100k in facbook ads and a few hundred accounts causes hilly’s loss, they completely missed just how ‘deplorable’ she herself is. 

Silly Hilary….Everyone knows it’s way cheaper to hire a fake spy, make up a story about fake prostitutes and leak it to the press, CIA and FBI. 

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7 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

Like the fantasy that HCQ is an effective treatment for COVID? 

 

Not a fantasy.  Just ask Tony.  You know, the Dem hero who first touted it decades ago, and the discovery of which destroyed your masters' lies, which you so willingly swallowed.

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2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


I’d love to know what number of people sold on Russian collusion actually reviewed the Facebook post contents. They attacked both sides of polarizing issues and seem more about sewing social conflict and unrest than promoting candidates… they spent 100k on FA books adds, with a few hundred accounts. 
 

no matter who might or might not have been involved if the dems think 100k in facbook ads and a few hundred accounts causes hilly’s loss, they completely missed just how ‘deplorable’ she herself is. 

This thing is, aren't almost all political campaign ads disinformation by definition?  Candidate number one's campaign says he's a saint and candidate number 2 is the son of Satan.  And visa versa.  Here we have a Governors election in November.  I swear there are four guys running and not two.  Example being good governor Murphy that saved civilization from a deadly virus and looks out for everybody and bad governor Murphy that killed thousands of seniors and taxes the citizens of the state to death. 

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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

This thing is, aren't almost all political campaign ads disinformation by definition?  Candidate number one's campaign says he's a saint and candidate number 2 is the son of Satan.  And visa versa.  Here we have a Governors election in November.  I swear there are four guys running and not two.  Example being good governor Murphy that saved civilization from a deadly virus and looks out for everybody and bad governor Murphy that killed thousands of seniors and taxes the citizens of the state to death. 

Another great point. these silly maliciously Russian conceived Facebook posts are some how the centerpiece of Russian election interference?? They spent 100k, the politicians spent over a hundred million between them on fb ads alone right?? 
 

the actual scale of this pithy little Russian collusion election interference diatribe is a joke. If a tiny bit of money and a few hundred fake accounts  actually resulted in swaying the outcome, all the other political campaigns and PACs are absolutely incompetent top to bottom. These election tampering Russians were the equivalent of peeing in the ocean of attack ads and praise pieces. 

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12 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Another great point. these silly maliciously Russian conceived Facebook posts are some how the centerpiece of Russian election interference?? They spent 100k, the politicians spent over a hundred million between them on fb ads alone right?? 
 

the actual scale of this pithy little Russian collusion election interference diatribe is a joke. If a tiny bit of money and a few hundred fake accounts  actually resulted in swaying the outcome, all the other political campaigns and PACs are absolutely incompetent top to bottom. These election tampering Russians were the equivalent of peeing in the ocean of attack ads and praise pieces. 


That’s really cute. Russian collusion went way beyond FB.

 

Keep trying bro

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11 hours ago, Doc said:

No one indicted for Russian collusion.  We're not the ones who need to keep trying.

Apparently those cleaver Russians were way more interested in our country when Trump was President than they are now that Biden’s in charge. Could it be that they’re happy we have a weak dementia patient in the White House? Well…we showed them! Didn’t we? 😳

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2 indictments in the past 2 months the most recent being Danchenko the main contributor to the Steele "BS" Dossier says different so if you would please edit your title to something like ?

 

The Russian Investigation of Trump Proving to be a Total S**T Show ! Or A Bunch of Tax Payer Money Spent for Nothing on Russian Collusion Case .

 

I think that seeing if all of this has or will be proven to be nothing but BS the likes of Nadler, Schiff, Pelosi, & anyone included in drawing that S**T show out should pay back all the money that it cost to conduct these BS investigations & any money Comey got for retirement or what ever should be totally revoked .

 

Not to mention they should all be fired and or jailed including anyone that knew about it from 2 administrations ago including the sitting president .

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On 11/4/2021 at 11:02 AM, B-Man said:

 

 

Reminder: Thread title has been proven incorrect.

 

 

Really, that's what all those people decided to go with?

 

All the preparations and planning, with backdoor deals and covert meetings, involving several agencies and multiple countries, all to create the illusion that Trump was a Russian spy.

 

They couldn't come up with something more believable? Like he was a Klan member? or literally Hitler?

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, unbillievable said:

Really, that's what all those people decided to go with?

 

All the preparations and planning, with backdoor deals and covert meetings, involving several agencies and multiple countries, all to create the illusion that Trump was a Russian spy.

 

They couldn't come up with something more believable? Like he was a Klan member? or literally Hitler?

 

 

 


I guess the 80s did call…

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The Washington Post has published Lake’s take on the indictment of Igor Danchenko by John Durham and on the Durham investigation generally.

I think readers will find it of interest.

 

As Lake sees it, Durham’s findings show that the Clinton campaign gamed the FBI, or at least tried to:

 

[Durham’s] last two indictments suggest that the FBI was not a villain but a victim, conned by Democratic operatives to pursue bogus investigations into the Trump campaign.

In September, Durham indicted Michael Sussman, a lawyer who represented the Clinton campaign in 2016. That indictment alleges that Sussman failed to disclose to the FBI that he was representing the Clinton campaign when he presented evidence alleging that servers for the Trump campaign had unusual communications with servers from the Russian Alfa Bank. . . .

Durham’s lengthy indictment. . .says that if Sussman had acknowledged he was working for Clinton’s campaign, the bureau would have treated his claims with more skepticism. The FBI eventually concluded there was nothing to the. . .story [Sussman was peddling].

 

The Danchenko indictment is along the same lines:

 

Like Sussman, Danchenko is also charged with hiding his relationship to a prominent Democrat in interviews with the FBI about the dossier. . . .

Durham’s indictment says Danchenko’s lies “deprived FBI agents and analysts of probative information” “that would have, among other things, assisted them in evaluating the credibility, reliability, and veracity” of the dossier. Again, Durham portrays the FBI as the victims of the Clinton campaign’s efforts.

 

If Danchenko lied to the FBI as the indictment asserts, it wasn’t merely a “process crime.” The alleged lying was in furtherance of a conspiracy by the Clinton campaign to enlist the FBI in order to discredit Donald Trump.

 

Importantly, however, Lake disputes any suggestion that the Clinton campaign’s central role exonerates the FBI. It does not.

 

Lake points out that FBI agents were able to discern that Steele’s information was worthless without the benefit of knowing Danchenko’s relationship to the Clintonistas. They reached this conclusion over the course of four interviews with Danchenko in 2017.

 

Nonetheless, the FBI pressed ahead and, as Horowitz found, gamed the surveillance court. Thus, Lake concludes that the “the real victim of these Democratic Party deceptions was not the FBI, but the American public.” And, I would add, the American president, Donald Trump.

 

 

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/11/the-durham-investigation-eli-lakes-take.php

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/was-the-fbi-manipulated-by-the-democratic-party/2021/11/04/fee077d0-3dde-11ec-bd6f-da376f47304e_story.html

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Inside the Clinton dossier and the con behind the Russiagate scandal

by Kimberly Strassel

 

 

 

The nation argued for five years over the infamous Steele dossier, the document on which the FBI relied to investigate Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign. It should have been called the Clinton dossier. Special counsel John Durham this week obtained an indictment of Igor Danchenko, a Russian who provided information for the dossier. Danchenko is charged with lying to the FBI, but the bigger story of the indictment is Democrats’ central role in every aspect of the dossier and the FBI investigation.

 

https://nypost.com/2021/11/05/inside-the-clinton-dossier-and-the-con-behind-the-russiagate-scandal/

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24 minutes ago, Doc said:

Like cockroaches scurrying once the light is turned on...

 

Wait, does that mean Trump and 18 of his associates DIDN'T HAVE at least 140 contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks, or their intermediaries, during the 2016 campaign and presidential transition?

 

Does that mean Manafort DIDN'T provide polling data in 2016 to Kilimnik AND others affiliated with Russian intelligence services?

 

Does that mean coordination between the Trump campaign, Roger Stone, Russian intelligence and Wikileak data dumps NEVER OCCURRED?

 

Does that mean that the meeting with two Russians with significant connections to the Russian government, including the Russian intelligence services DIDN'T MEET with Manafort; Jared, and Donny Jr in Trump Tower?

 

Is that what you're telling us, @Doc?

 

Trump most certainly did collude with Russia WITH OR WITHOUT a dossier.

 

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Idiots.

 

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2 hours ago, BillStime said:

Wait, does that mean Trump and 18 of his associates DIDN'T HAVE at least 140 contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks, or their intermediaries, during the 2016 campaign and presidential transition?

 

Does that mean Manafort DIDN'T provide polling data in 2016 to Kilimnik AND others affiliated with Russian intelligence services?

 

Does that mean coordination between the Trump campaign, Roger Stone, Russian intelligence and Wikileak data dumps NEVER OCCURRED?

 

Does that mean that the meeting with two Russians with significant connections to the Russian government, including the Russian intelligence services DIDN'T MEET with Manafort; Jared, and Donny Jr in Trump Tower?

 

Is that what you're telling us, @Doc?

 

Trump most certainly did collude with Russia WITH OR WITHOUT a dossier.

 

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Idiots.

 

Oh yeah?  Where are the indictments? 

 

Get back to me when Skeletor starts handing them down.  Until then, you (still) have nothing.

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38 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Oh yeah?  Where are the indictments? 

 

Get back to me when Skeletor starts handing them down.  Until then, you (still) have nothing.

 

Déjà vu... I love how you idiots are trying to wrap up the whole Russian collusion narrative around the dossier... and pretend Trump and his people didn't collude with Russia.

 

Keep trying bro - it doesn't work.

 

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2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Déjà vu... I love how you idiots are trying to wrap up the whole Russian collusion narrative around the dossier... and pretend Trump and his people didn't collude with Russia.

 

Keep trying bro - it doesn't work.

 

so nothing = that's all you have?

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1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

Déjà vu... I love how you idiots are trying to wrap up the whole Russian collusion narrative around the dossier... and pretend Trump and his people didn't collude with Russia.

 

Keep trying bro - it doesn't work.

 

You trying to hold onto Trump/Russia collusion is like Fauci holding onto the narrative that the NIH didn’t fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan...

 

Best of luck with that BillStime- speak your truth...👍🤣

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8 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

You trying to hold onto Trump/Russia collusion is like Fauci saying the NIH didn’t fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan...

 

Best of luck with that BillStime- speak your truth...👍🤣

 

It'll be the 2059 and that twit will still be mentally obsessed with Trump, who will be long dead.

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38 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

You trying to hold onto Trump/Russia collusion is like Fauci holding onto the narrative that the NIH didn’t fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan...

 

Best of luck with that BillStime- speak your truth...👍🤣


Trump colluded with Russia - it’s really that simple.

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5 minutes ago, BillStime said:


Trump colluded with Russia - it’s really that simple.

Then why did Mueller say he didn't? He was the Dem’s choice, and he had all of Hillary’s and Obama’s attorneys working for him to gather info...

 

They had 2 1/2 years to do what they wanted and found nothing...time to move on...

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3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

Then why did Mueller say he didn't? He was the Dem’s choice, and he had all of Hillary’s and Obama’s attorneys working for him to gather info...

 

They had 2 1/2 years to do what they wanted and found nothing...time to move on...

 

Oh, Mueller? That guy? LMAO

 

Tell us - who was hired to cut off Mueller's balls?

 

Yep, you named it - William Barr.

 

Why do you think he was brought in?  Did you forget about the unsolicited memo Barr sent to Trump before being named AG?

 

Here it is: Mueller's "Obstruction" Theory

 

So, why ignore all the connections Mueller reported between Trump and Russia?

 

Why are you ignoring what both Mueller and the Republican led Senate Report found in 2020? 

 

How can we look past those details and claim that with all 140+ contacts with Russians <> Russian collusion?

  • WTF was Manafort doing sharing polling data with Russians?
  • WTF was Stone coordinating with Russians with Wikileaks release?
  • WTF was Trump JR, Manafort and Kushner doing meeting with Russian operatives in Trump Tower?

THOSE ARE ALL FACTS! You cannot dispute those.

 

C'mon JaCrispy - you're smarter than this.

 

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25 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

Then why did Mueller say he didn't? He was the Dem’s choice, and he had all of Hillary’s and Obama’s attorneys working for him to gather info...

 

They had 2 1/2 years to do what they wanted and found nothing...time to move on...

See, on the downlow, Putin coopted Mueller, right?  Mueller’s brother had business dealings in Leningrad, got himself in dutch with the oligarchs, and Putin stepped in before they could whack him.   Then, uh, Putin called Mueller, “I saved your brother Comrade etc etc etc”.  
 

While this is all going down like a sweet muffin, right, remember Jeff Sessions?   Think about it—-Jeff Sessions, the Seger Sessions, Pete Seger, folk music, communism.  Sessions is in Putin’s pocket too, right?  Sessions precedes Barr, a Barr is a place to drink, Ipso facto Putin gets to Barr because he’s got a drinking problem. 
 

What was really genius about all this was the tens of millions spent on the investigation, something  like $40,000,000, and Trump was charged with nothing.   Not one thing.   But—-and this part may sound a bit crazy, but if you’re reading this far, I hope you’ll go just a bit farther with me—-in Putin’s world of deceit and intrigue—-nothing isn’t just something, nothing is everything.  
 

Trump didn’t get away with nothing, Putin got away with everything.   Did you ever notice Trump and Putin both have 5 letters in their names?   

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1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

See, on the downlow, Putin coopted Mueller, right?  Mueller’s brother had business dealings in Leningrad, got himself in dutch with the oligarchs, and Putin stepped in before they could whack him.   Then, uh, Putin called Mueller, “I saved your brother Comrade etc etc etc”.  
 

While this is all going down like a sweet muffin, right, remember Jeff Sessions?   Think about it—-Jeff Sessions, the Seger Sessions, Pete Seger, folk music, communism.  Sessions is in Putin’s pocket too, right?  Sessions precedes Barr, a Barr is a place to drink, Ipso facto Putin gets to Barr because he’s got a drinking problem. 
 

What was really genius about all this was the tens of millions spent on the investigation, something  like $40,000,000, and Trump was charged with nothing.   Not one thing.   But—-and this part may sound a bit crazy, but if you’re reading this far, I hope you’ll go just a bit farther with me—-in Putin’s world of deceit and intrigue—-nothing isn’t just something, nothing is everything.  
 

Trump didn’t get away with nothing, Putin got away with everything.   Did you ever notice Trump and Putin both have 5 letters in their names?   

 

 

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11 minutes ago, OrangeBills said:

 

 

Yep, its certainly inappropriate to call out negative Leftist trends that have sunk EVERY Civilization in the history of humanity.  How tragic...


WTF are you talking about. Just look at a majority of the red states in this country - they cannot survive on their freakn own.

 

Get out of here 

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3 minutes ago, BillStime said:


WTF are you talking about. Just look at a majority of the red states in this country - they cannot survive on their freakn own.

 

Get out of here 

 

So Naive

 

They'd be fine

 

"Intellectual" Leftists are going to destroy this place

 

Why does blocking not work on here?  I acknowledge I violated my own protocol 

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12 hours ago, BillStime said:

Trump colluded w Russia

 

12 hours ago, BillStime said:

Trump colluded with Russia - it’s really that simple.

 

No, you're really that simple.  Again, NO INDICTMENTS, even though Skeletor has been AG for 10 months now.  Don't blame Mueller, Barr, Trump being protected from prosecution because he's POTUS, etc.  

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14 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

 

No, you're really that simple.  Again, NO INDICTMENTS, even though Skeletor has been AG for 10 months now.  Don't blame Mueller, Barr, Trump being protected from prosecution because he's POTUS, etc.  

 

Awe - keep trying precious. 
 

Trump colluded with Russia - the evidence is there.
 

Whether anyone was indicated does not change the fact that Trump’s campaign met with Russians at least 140 times.

 

Collusion is collusion. 

 

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This stain will never be erased from Trumps legacy.

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47 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Awe - keep trying precious. 
 

Trump colluded with Russia - the evidence is there.
 

Whether anyone was indicated does not change the fact that Trump’s campaign met with Russians at least 140 times.

 

Collusion is collusion. 

 

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This stain will never be erased from Trumps legacy.

 

I don't have to try.  And the only stain is the havoc the Dems, the MSM and their braindead followers wreaked on the country, doing far more damage than Russia ever could.  Because you were so willing to believe it and didn't stop to think critically.  But as I always say, that's just how they want you.

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1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

I don't have to try.  And the only stain is the havoc the Dems, the MSM and their braindead followers wreaked on the country, doing far more damage than Russia ever could.  Because you were so willing to believe it and didn't stop to think critically.  But as I always say, that's just how they want you.

 

Think critically? Laughable. 

 

Blaming the media and not Trump for his bad choices? That's you.

 

Now, unlike you, I don't need the media to translate what we can all read in the (redacted) Mueller Report or the SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE UNITED STATES SENATE ON RUSSIAN ACTIVE MEASURES CAMPAIGNS AND INTERFERENCE IN THE 2016 U.S. ELECTION VOLUME 5: COUNTERINTELLIGENCE THREATS AND VULNERABILITIES.

 

Call it what YOU want but Trump colluded with Russia and that's the end of it.

 

I know you (and your KEEPERS) think discrediting a dossier CLEARS TRUMP OF EVERYTHING HE ACTUALLY did - but - it doesn't work that way.

 

 

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35 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Think critically? Laughable. 

 

Blaming the media and not Trump for his bad choices? That's you.

 

Now, unlike you, I don't need the media to translate what we can all read in the (redacted) Mueller Report or the SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE UNITED STATES SENATE ON RUSSIAN ACTIVE MEASURES CAMPAIGNS AND INTERFERENCE IN THE 2016 U.S. ELECTION VOLUME 5: COUNTERINTELLIGENCE THREATS AND VULNERABILITIES.

 

Call it what YOU want but Trump colluded with Russia and that's the end of it.

 

I know you (and your KEEPERS) think discrediting a dossier CLEARS TRUMP OF EVERYTHING HE ACTUALLY did - but - it doesn't work that way.

 

No, the end of it is that he did not.  Otherwise others would have been indicted years ago, and in Trump's case, months ago.  You see, foreign collusion is a serious offense that would need to be investigated even after the accused leaves office.  That nothing has and will come of it should tell anyone with any integrity at all that there was never anything there.  But you keep on because you can't help yourself.  

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