Does PPP stand against Racism?

[B-Man]

2 hours ago, Reality Check said:

 

What is your solution to black on black violence?

 

 

 

YES, BUT THAT’S NOT THE CHOSEN NARRATIVE:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Warren Zevon]

Lots of racists here. Multiple posters have posted pepe the frog and other racist iconography over the years. The sarcasm when race is brought up is beyond the pale. A former poster called this place #BillsChan - right on the money.

 

IMO

[GregPersons]

2 hours ago, Warren Zevon said:

Lots of racists here. Multiple posters have posted pepe the frog and other racist iconography over the years. The sarcasm when race is brought up is beyond the pale. A former poster called this place #BillsChan - right on the money.

 

IMO

 

We all need to do more to call them out on it.

Every single one of us is guilty of letting it slide. 

We didn't invent racism. We didn't ask to be born in a racist society. But it's our responsibility.

 

It's sad to see Bills fans in PPP treat it like a joke, or a "debate"

[Chef Jim]

21 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

We all need to do more to call them out on it.

Every single one of us is guilty of letting it slide. 

We didn't invent racism. We didn't ask to be born in a racist society. But it's our responsibility.

 

It's sad to see Bills fans in PPP treat it like a joke, or a "debate"

Are you a racist?

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[GregPersons]

27 minutes ago, B-Man said:

(racist meme)

 

You can just vote "No"

[Chef Jim]

3 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

You can just vote "No"

Good ***** lord. Is it as horrible as I can only imagine it is to go through life and see racism EVERYWHERE?  That *****’s gonna kills ya. 

[Reality Check]

1 hour ago, GregPersons said:

 

We all need to do more to call them out on it.

Every single one of us is guilty of letting it slide. 

We didn't invent racism. We didn't ask to be born in a racist society. But it's our responsibility.

 

It's sad to see Bills fans in PPP treat it like a joke, or a "debate"

What is your solution to black on black violence?

[GregPersons]

1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

Good ***** lord. Is it as horrible as I can only imagine it is to go through life and see racism EVERYWHERE?  That *****’s gonna kills ya. 

 

It's horrible, yes. You know that phrase "ignorance is bliss"? That describes your life, basically. You know how in The Matrix the one guy is a traitor and goes back because even though he knows the steak is fake, he prefers the lie? That's you, rejecting all of the obvious information in your face.

 

You ever hear about how it's lonely be a genius? That's how it feels for someone with an average IQ and basic learning skills that didn't stop in middle school to post on PPP and interact with the cavemen here. 

Edited June 10, 2020 by GregPersons

[Reality Check]

3 hours ago, GregPersons said:

 

It's horrible, yes. You know that phrase "ignorance is bliss"? That describes your life, basically. You know how in The Matrix the one guy is a traitor and goes back because even though he knows the steak is fake, he prefers the lie? That's you, rejecting all of the obvious information in your face.

 

You ever hear about how it's lonely be a genius? That's how it feels for someone with an average IQ and basic learning skills that didn't stop in middle school to post on PPP and interact with the cavemen here. 

What is your solution to black on black violence?

[GregPersons]

4 minutes ago, Reality Check said:

What is your solution to black on black violence?

 

Did you ever tell me yours? You've asked this question enough, you've received enough answers from me and others — have you formed an opinion? Or you can only ask the question?

[Chef Jim]

6 hours ago, GregPersons said:

 

It's horrible, yes. You know that phrase "ignorance is bliss"? That describes your life, basically. You know how in The Matrix the one guy is a traitor and goes back because even though he knows the steak is fake, he prefers the lie? That's you, rejecting all of the obvious information in your face.

 

You ever hear about how it's lonely be a genius? That's how it feels for someone with an average IQ and basic learning skills that didn't stop in middle school to post on PPP and interact with the cavemen here. 

So do you think that I think that racism doesn’t exist?  
 

You have ideas. None of them are original but they are ideas nonetheless. You come to a politics forum with these ideas. Fantastic, let’s discuss and debate them on their merit. But no you storm in and before you even introduce yourself you look at the room and yell: “YOU’RE ALL A BUNCH OF RACIST!!”  Not the best way to endear yourself to the crowd.  So instead of us welcoming you to have a discussion we all look at you as a belligerent blowhard. So you ***** this up from the get go. Good job Greg.  

[GregPersons]

3 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

So do you think that I think that racism doesn’t exist?  
 

You have ideas. None of them are original but they are ideas nonetheless. You come to a politics forum with these ideas. Fantastic, let’s discuss and debate them on their merit. But no you storm in and before you even introduce yourself you look at the room and yell: “YOU’RE ALL A BUNCH OF RACIST!!”  Not the best way to endear yourself to the crowd.  So instead of us welcoming you to have a discussion we all look at you as a belligerent blowhard. So you ***** this up from the get go. Good job Greg.  

 

Do you think we were ever going to get along if I'd come in that way? Better to just get to the point, don't you think? 

 

Of course, if you agreed from the beginning, you'd have maybe just said "Hold up bro! We're with you! ***** racists!" instead of "Hold up bro! Pretty sure racism isn't that big of a deal!"

[B-Man]

In an Effort to Fight Racism, a Rhode Island Donut Shop Cancels Discounts for Military and Police

 

 

[Chef Jim]

2 hours ago, GregPersons said:

 

Do you think we were ever going to get along if I'd come in that way? Better to just get to the point, don't you think? 

 

Of course, if you agreed from the beginning, you'd have maybe just said "Hold up bro! We're with you! ***** racists!" instead of "Hold up bro! Pretty sure racism isn't that big of a deal!"

 

Who here has said racism isn't a big deal?  See we'd also engage in your debate if you stopped

 

MAKING ***** UP!!

 

I thought you were going to block me.  You're a ***** liar too?? 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Orlando Tim]

23 hours ago, Warren Zevon said:

Lots of racists here. Multiple posters have posted pepe the frog and other racist iconography over the years. The sarcasm when race is brought up is beyond the pale. A former poster called this place #BillsChan - right on the money.

 

IMO

I am not big on what Pepe means- how did a front become racist? I have been told he is but I was also told the ok sign was racist and that is just stupid.

[The Guy In Pants]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I am not big on what Pepe means- how did a front become racist? I have been told he is but I was also told the ok sign was racist and that is just stupid.

 

It’s actually a reach. But; here is a write up from 2017.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2017/05/09/how-pepe-the-frog-became-a-symbol-of-hatred/amp/

[Orlando Tim]

5 minutes ago, The Guy In Pants said:

 

It’s actually a reach. But; here is a write up from 2017.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2017/05/09/how-pepe-the-frog-became-a-symbol-of-hatred/amp/

Thanks- does not make much sense but it is an explanation.

[Cinga]

15 hours ago, GregPersons said:

 

Did you ever tell me yours? You've asked this question enough, you've received enough answers from me and others — have you formed an opinion? Or you can only ask the question?

You're such a hack! No you haven't answered him, and you have never answered when I asked if you were racist. But by your very posts and actions, you have proven that you are.

 

Don't bother responding, you see I hate racists like you and I won't reply to your questions you are sure to reply with. 

[B-Man]

 

JIM TREACHER: Not Being a Racist Isn’t Good Enough Anymore, Proclaim Our Self-Styled Overseers.

I don’t tend to pay much attention to MSNBC second-stringer Ali Velshi, but the other day, he forcefully ejected the following nugget of cognitive fecal matter and it briefly floated to the top of the Internet. Watch this clip:

 

“Well, if you think you’re not racist, you could be right. But in this day and age, that’s simply not good enough. Up next: Why it’s time to check our bias at the door and lean into the discomfort that is necessary for real change.”

 

Wait until Velshi discovers that he works alongside Al Sharpton.

 

 

 

 

As Treacher writes in response:

America didn’t kill George Floyd. “Whiteness” or “systemic racism” or any other trendy buzzword didn’t kill George Floyd. Those cops did. They’re in jail now, awaiting trial. Good.

 

That’s it. That’s all I owe anybody. Hell, I don’t even owe anybody that much. And I absolutely will not kneel and grovel for forgiveness for someone else’s crimes.

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Big Gun]

On 6/9/2020 at 6:33 PM, GregPersons said:

Everybody here claims they are "not" racist.... but "not racist" is not the same as "against racism." 

 

You can assume you are "not racist" and then every time the issue is brought up to you, you look to dismiss it, not realizing how racist that actually is.

 

Let's clarify. Who here is actually specifically AGAINST racism?

You are clearly racist!

[Buffarukus]

i always found the term white to be pretty broad stroke of racism in itself. white! your skin is lighter then, hmm there doesn't seem to be a set standard, but your in this group. "white" people are from all over the globe with widely different characteristics but lets just lump a group together solely based on skin pigmentation. italians are exactly the same as irish. not really. they both have extremely different physical traits, food, language, customs, and history both native and arrival into this country. German, Polish, Swedish, Australian. French, the differences never really ends but its easier to combine them then to see them as individual cultures...your white. many "whites" were considered a minority for a long time and dealt with a extreme amount of racism themselves. greg are people of jewish faith "white"? just curious since you've judged some in this thread of white supremacy, how deep do your racial catagories go? im not a racist so just wondering how people like you view things that aren't easy to group visually. 

 

anyways what racism are you actively against greg? the poll is unclear. it seems your going straight for the hot button issue that's been drilled in your head from the media. "white" on "black"? is that it? come on greg true activism does not need echo chambers and edited stories that push a focused narratives.

 

got any posts for  the ongoing slavery in muslim countries? its ONGOING as in not in the past its..happening right now!

 

how about hong kong? is it just race? are you activley against the oppression of people regardless of race?..again its happening now!

 

i think we need alot more polls to figure this out greg. 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 11, 2020 by Buffarukus

[transplantbillsfan]

I'm not going to start the thread, but if you're really trying to break this issue down, ask 1 simple question:

 

Are you caucasian?

 

I just posed this question in another thread largely because I'm curious if there's actually anyone not dominantly white who frequents this forum.

 

If you pose that as a poll and people are honest and the vast majority of consistent posters claim they are, I think it answers a lot of questions.

Edited June 11, 2020 by transplantbillsfan

[billsfan1959]

1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

I'm not going to start the thread, but if you're really trying to break this issue down, ask 1 simple question:

 

Are you caucasian?

 

I just posed this question in another thread largely because I'm curious if there's actually anyone not dominantly white who frequents this forum.

 

If you pose that as a poll and people are honest and the vast majority of consistent posters claim they are, I think it answers a lot of questions.

 

Sincere question: How does the simple fact of whether or not one is caucasian, without knowing anything else about that person (traits, life experiences, education, etc.) answer any question at all, other than, "Are you caucasian?"

 

Just what attributes do you think you can then assign to that person simply based on race?

[The Guy In Pants]

8 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Thanks- does not make much sense but it is an explanation.

To be fair; there is not much that they do or say anymore that makes sense. In fact; most of the sense making left leaning friends I have and people I know; have slid silently over to center-left, center and center-right. I have a couple that have stayed strong on their own sinking ships but, they also seem to have a loose screw or at least a wheel that could use some grease.
 

Selective outrage is, well, all the rage. They have successfully made irrelevant our history, the dictionary and iced coffee.

[US Egg]

Grew up in a predominantly Irish neighborhood being a Polish boy in the '60's.

 

Mocked steadily, picked on and having to continually fight because I was a 'polack'.

 

Black eyes and bloody noses as a kid/young teen were a given. Guess I was lucky compared to today.

 

My parents never the called the police or complained, it was just life back then.

 

 

Edited June 11, 2020 by I am the egg man

[Chef Jim]

3 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Sincere question: How does the simple fact of whether or not one is caucasian, without knowing anything else about that person (traits, life experiences, education, etc.) answer any question at all, other than, "Are you caucasian?"

 

Just what attributes do you think you can then assign to that person simply based on race?

I think it will go like this:
 

Them:  Are you Caucasian?

Me: I don’t think you know what that word means. 

Them:  What??  Ok whatevs. Are you white?

Me:  Sometimes.  I get pretty dark in the summer 

Them:  That’s different!!  What’s your heritage??

Me:  Italian and English....I think. 
Them: Ha!!  So you are white!! 

Me:  I guess. What’s your point. 
Them:  That means you’re a racist. 
Me:  But you don’t even know me. 
Them:  Oh but I do!  All us white people are racist!

Me:  You hate black people??

Them:  Of course not!!

Me:  How about yellow, brown, red...you hate them then. 
Them:  Of course not!

Me:  Then what makes you (and me) racists?

Them:  We’re white silly!

Me:  You’re hot pockets are ready. 

 

[B-Man]

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

[Johnnycage46]

18 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

Their biggest enemy and main fear...ACTUAL facts.

Edited June 11, 2020 by Johnnycage46

[njbuff]

35 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

Such a tolerant bunch of thugs there.

[transplantbillsfan]

8 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Sincere question: How does the simple fact of whether or not one is caucasian, without knowing anything else about that person (traits, life experiences, education, etc.) answer any question at all, other than, "Are you caucasian?"

 

Just what attributes do you think you can then assign to that person simply based on race?

 

It's not each Individual answer that's all that revealing, it's the demographics of this forum as a whole.

[billsfan1959]

3 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

It's not each Individual answer that's all that revealing, it's the demographics of this forum as a whole.

 

Let's say, 8o% is White, 10% is Black, 4% is Hispanic, 2% is Asian, 1% is Native American, 1% is pacific Islander, and 2% is some other race/ethnicity. 

 

What exactly is "revealing" about that?

 

Other than providing a statistical breakdown by race/ethnicity, what else can that tell you?

[Cinga]

5 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

I think it will go like this:
 

Them:  Are you Caucasian?

Me: I don’t think you know what that word means. 

Them:  What??  Ok whatevs. Are you white?

Me:  Sometimes.  I get pretty dark in the summer 

Them:  That’s different!!  What’s your heritage??

Me:  Italian and English....I think. 
Them: Ha!!  So you are white!! 

Me:  I guess. What’s your point. 
Them:  That means you’re a racist. 
Me:  But you don’t even know me. 
Them:  Oh but I do!  All us white people are racist!

Me:  You hate black people??

Them:  Of course not!!

Me:  How about yellow, brown, red...you hate them then. 
Them:  Of course not!

Me:  Then what makes you (and me) racists?

Them:  We’re white silly!

Me:  You’re hot pockets are ready. 

 

 

And it's telling that the libs on this board are using that very argument.... SMDH

[Chef Jim]

4 minutes ago, Cinga said:

 

And it's telling that the libs on this board are using that very argument.... SMDH

 

It's progressives EVERYWHERE.  And here's the scary thing.  They have the spotlight and, for some reason, the backing of many of the people that are responsible for writing our laws.  

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

Their biggest enemy and main fear...ACTUAL facts.

 

No here's the real scary thing.  Their biggest enemy is a rational conversation.  That's all he was looking to do.  Now maybe that wasn't the best time for it but their reactions to it was very telling. 

 

Here is the perfect example of their inability to have a rational and sane conversation.  @GregPersons  Had he come here and started with this?:

 

Hey guys I want to open a conversation that I think is very controversial but I believe in it strongly and I'd like to hear your opinion.  Blah blah blah...let's discuss.

 

But no he came in like a drunk on a three day bender calling anyone and everyone here a racists.   Putting your adversaries on a major defensive is not the way to start a debate.  Yeah we all do that here to some extent but @GregPersons did it on steroids.  

[transplantbillsfan]

2 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

Let's say, 8o% is White, 10% is Black, 4% is Hispanic, 2% is Asian, 1% is Native American, 1% is pacific Islander, and 2% is some other race/ethnicity. 

 

What exactly is "revealing" about that?

 

Other than providing a statistical breakdown by race/ethnicity, what else can that tell you?

 

Do you honestly think that's the breakdown in terms of consistent posters in PPP?

 

I would be pleased and quite surprised if at least 20% of those who frequent this forum are minorities.

[Westside]

2 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said:

 

Why's that?

 

Because he's racist at heart. Sad really.