2020 Election is officially Trump vs Biden

[BillsFanNC]

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Backintheday544]

Bombshell report about Trump getting $10,000,000 from an Egyptian bank that led to at least a 3 year Federal investigation:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/politics/trump-campaign-donation-investigation/index.html

[Teddy KGB]

6 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

Bombshell report about Trump getting $10,000,000 from an Egyptian bank that led to at least a 3 year Federal investigation:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/politics/trump-campaign-donation-investigation/index.html

stormy’s rack was a bombshell. 
 

you’ve posted a cnn link 😬🙃🙃🤣

[Beast]

6 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

 

#BidenCrimeFamily

[Backintheday544]

6 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

 

If true, it's the craziest story ever.

 

Some computer tech, a year ago gets a laptop that is water damaged for repair. The laptop has the emails. In a year, no one comes back to get the laptop. Then it somehow goes through Rudy G and Steve Bannon.

 

Oh and the guy who has the laptop is an avid Trump supporter.

[BillsFanNC]

10 hours ago, Backintheday544 said:

 

If true, it's the craziest story ever.

 

Some computer tech, a year ago gets a laptop that is water damaged for repair. The laptop has the emails. In a year, no one comes back to get the laptop. Then it somehow goes through Rudy G and Steve Bannon.

 

Oh and the guy who has the laptop is an avid Trump supporter.

 

You left out....a lot.

 

Originally turned over computer to FBI but kept a copy of hard drive.  FBI, surprise surprise, sat on it.

 

Then he tried to alert several elected officials and heard nothing.

 

Only then did he contact Rudy and did we get this story.

 

Biden camp not denying the emails are real.

 

The clear censorship of the Post story on FB and Twitter is as big a story as the Hunter laptop itself...and that we all could see happening in real time yesterday.

 

 

[Backintheday544]

27 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

You left out....a lot.

 

Originally turned over computer to FBI but kept a copy of hard drive.  FBI, surprise surprise, sat on it.

 

Then he tried to alert several elected officials and heard nothing.

 

Only then did he contact Rudy and did we get this story.

 

Biden camp not denying the emails are real.

 

The clear censorship of the Post story on FB and Twitter is as big a story as the Hunter laptop itself...and that we all could see happening in real time yesterday.

 

 

 

Is that though? The person who had the laptop doesn't seem to have his story straight:

 

Throughout the interview, Mac Isaac switched back and forth from saying he reached out to law enforcement after viewing the files in the laptop to saying that it was actually the Federal Bureau of Investigation that contacted him. At one point, Mac Isaac claimed that he was emailing someone from the FBI about the laptop. At another point he claimed a special agent from the Baltimore office had contacted him after he alerted the FBI to the device’s existence. At another point, he said the FBI reached out to him for “help accessing his drive.”

 

Mac Isaac referenced the infamous Seth Rich conspiracy theory—which holds that a DNC staffer who police say was murdered in a botched robbery was actually killed off by Clinton allies because he leaked committee emails—as reason for his paranoia. He said he made a copy of the hard drive for the purposes of personal protection.

 

“They probably knew I had a copy because I was pretty vocal about not wanting to get murdered,” he said, “so I’m going to have a copy.”

 

Mac Isaac refused to answer specific questions about whether he had been in contact with Rudy Giuliani before the laptop drop-off or at any other time before the Post article’s publication. Pressed on his relationship with Giuliani, he replied: “When you’re afraid and you don’t know anything about the depth of the waters that you’re in, you want to find a lifeguard.”

 

Seeming to realize he’d said too much, he added: “Ah, *****.”

 

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Bidens official calendar also doesn't have anything about a meeting. We know how much the right care about calendars after the Kavanaugh hearing.

Edited October 15, 2020 by Backintheday544

[BillsFanNC]

https://nypost.com/2020/10/15/emails-reveal-how-hunter-biden-tried-to-cash-in-big-with-chinese-firm/

[Kemp]

Twitter Shuts Down Entire Network To Slow Spread Of Negative Biden News https://t.co/JPmjOrKPcr via @TheBabylonBee Wow, this has never been done in history. This includes his really bad interview last night. Why is Twitter doing this. Bringing more attention to Sleepy Joe & Big T

 

Trump demonstrates for the umpteenth time just how stupid he is, with the above tweet.

[ALF]

The identity of Trump’s creditors is not a mystery

 

What’s more, because the loans are mortgages, they exist in the public record, with county registrars and, in some cases, in commercial mortgage-backed securities.

 

The majority of Trump’s liabilities can mostly be lumped into three groups: loans issued against his office properties by commercial real estate lender Ladder Capital; loans issued by Deutsche Bank AG against comparatively risky properties like his Washington hotel and Doral Resort; and loans taken out by Vornado Realty Trust against two office towers in which he holds minority interests. Other loans are mostly older and smaller.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/10/16/bb-the-identity-of-trumps-creditors-is-not-a-mystery

[Warcodered]

4 minutes ago, ALF said:

The identity of Trump’s creditors is not a mystery

 

What’s more, because the loans are mortgages, they exist in the public record, with county registrars and, in some cases, in commercial mortgage-backed securities.

 

The majority of Trump’s liabilities can mostly be lumped into three groups: loans issued against his office properties by commercial real estate lender Ladder Capital; loans issued by Deutsche Bank AG against comparatively risky properties like his Washington hotel and Doral Resort; and loans taken out by Vornado Realty Trust against two office towers in which he holds minority interests. Other loans are mostly older and smaller.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/10/16/bb-the-identity-of-trumps-creditors-is-not-a-mystery

Isn't that the bank that got in trouble for money laundering for Russia?

[Backintheday544]

Ouch....how Republicans really feel about Trump:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/exclusive-gop-sen-sasse-says-trump-kisses-dictators-butts-mocks-evangelicals

 

Republican Sen. Ben Sasse excoriated President Trump in a telephone conference call with constituents this week, saying he had mishandled the coronavirus response, "kisses dictators' butts," "sells out our allies," spends "like a drunken sailor," mistreats women, and trash-talks evangelicals behind their backs.

[Kemp]

 

[Backintheday544]

Since Trump talked about it. I do want to give him props on Space Force. At first I thought it was stupid. Saw the show about it and this is really a needed thing. Props to Trump for getting it started.

[Warcodered]

Between Trump calling on the DOJ to investigate Omar and Senator Perdue thinking Kamala is funny name it's been a great day for Racism in the 2020 election season.

[Kemp]

Trump addresses the issues confronting Americans.

[Kemp]

On 10/16/2020 at 2:26 PM, ALF said:

The identity of Trump’s creditors is not a mystery

 

What’s more, because the loans are mortgages, they exist in the public record, with county registrars and, in some cases, in commercial mortgage-backed securities.

 

The majority of Trump’s liabilities can mostly be lumped into three groups: loans issued against his office properties by commercial real estate lender Ladder Capital; loans issued by Deutsche Bank AG against comparatively risky properties like his Washington hotel and Doral Resort; and loans taken out by Vornado Realty Trust against two office towers in which he holds minority interests. Other loans are mostly older and smaller.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/10/16/bb-the-identity-of-trumps-creditors-is-not-a-mystery

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/16/donald-trump-has-at-least-1-billion-in-debt-more-than-twice-the-amount-he-suggested/#2ecf102a4330

The loans are spread out over more than a dozen different assets—hotels, buildings, mansions and golf courses. Most are listed on the financial disclosure report Trump files annually with the federal government. Two, which add up to an estimated $447 million, are not.

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Tiberius]

Interesting. Biden's war room on attacking misinformation 

 

By 

Matt Viser

Oct. 19, 2020 at 6:00 a.m. EDT

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Joe Biden’s campaign has quietly built a multimillion-dollar operation over the past two months that’s largely designed to combat misinformation online, aiming to rebut President Trump while bracing for any information warfare that could take place in the aftermath of the election.

 

The effort, internally called the “Malarkey Factory,” consists of dozens of people around the country monitoring what information is gaining traction digitally, whether it’s resonating with swing voters and, if so, how to fight back. The three most salient attacks the Malarkey Factory has confronted so far are claims that Biden is a socialist, that he is “creepy” and that he is “sleepy” or senile.

In preparation for misinformation spreading as voters head to the polls, especially a stretch around Election Day when Facebook will not let campaigns buy new ads, the campaign has partnered with dozens of Facebook pages associated with liberal individuals or groups that have large followings. The campaign has also enlisted 5,000 surrogates with big social media platforms who can pump out campaign messages.

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Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden speaks at the Little Haiti Cultural Complex in Florida on Oct. 5. (Demetrius Freeman/The Washington Post)

The Malarkey Factory has already been at work. When Trump began attacking Biden as a socialist, for example, the Biden campaign saw that it was affecting Hispanic voters in Florida. So it developed counter-messaging that showed a different image of Biden, with him speaking of his love for America and being endorsed by former president Barack Obama, and the campaign blasted the messaging to Latinos in the state.

“Our theory of the case has been that we need to find and identify the misinformation that is actually moving voters, even if it is a small number of voters, then find who those voters are and see if we can intervene,” said Rob Flaherty, the campaign’s digital director and head of the Malarkey Factory. “There’s misinformation that inflames a base. There’s misinformation that persuades people. And there’s misinformation that suppresses a base.”

While it is increasingly easy to determine where disinformation is coming from, given the proliferation of online tools, the trickier challenge is figuring out whether it’s shaping voting behavior and merits a response.

“The real dilemma of misinformation, from a campaign perspective, is that in the vast majority of cases, the correct tactical thing to do is nothing,” said Matthew Hindman, an associate professor at George Washington University who co-wrote a study on misinformation during the 2018 midterms. “There is a very real risk that you will take a nothing story that nobody has heard of and raise its prominence and give it oxygen.”

And given the speed of social media, that decision often has to be made within minutes.

When a conspiracy theory emerged that Osama bin Laden was never really killed — and Biden and Obama had Navy SEALs executed to cover that up — Biden’s campaign felt little need to respond. The deeply implausible fabrication might affect some potential Trump voters, Biden staffers concluded, but would not affect the types of voters they were trying to attract.

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The campaign also found that Trump’s attack on Biden’s criminal justice record was not resonating with the Black voters prized by Biden’s campaign. His attacks on Biden’s mental acuity, however, were hitting home, so the campaign sent videos to targeted voters showing their candidate talking clearly and articulately.

“They are seeing this stream of poorly edited clips of him falling asleep at a news interview — things that are just not real,” Flaherty said. “When we show them him talking about policy, which he does all the time, [support goes] up.”

This sort of elaborate virtual war room, tasked with ferreting out volatile information in the dark recesses of the Web, could become a routine feature of campaigns as they confront a still-new world of elusive but potentially destructive information.

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In this case, the effort is also a reflection of the trauma Democrats are still experiencing from the last election, when Hillary Clinton’s campaign was hit by a wave of disinformation and hacking for which, in retrospect, it was woefully unprepared.

The Biden effort, which advisers describe as costing more than $10 million, also coincides with an unprecedented campaign that the coronavirus pandemic has forced almost entirely online. And it comes as intelligence officials warn of foreign interference in the election, with Russia again seen as a major threat to spread false information.

The project started in August when the Biden campaign assembled groups inside and outside the campaign, tapping campaign staffers working remotely in places such as Washington, D.C.; Portland, Maine; and Long Island, as well as an array of marketing and tech firms in Silicon Valley.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

WEIMAR AMERICA? 

 

“If the polls are right, we’re about to elect our equivalent of Field Marshall von Hindenburg, in the form of a 78-year-old with obviously failing mental capacity whose career in any case has shown him always unable to resist the blandishments of the left. Biden is, at best, a transitional figure to the complete wokification of the Democratic Party, and the further extension of the administrative state that is its preferred instrument of rule.”

 

How good and hard do Americans want to get it for the next four years?

 

 

 

 

[Backintheday544]

4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

WEIMAR AMERICA? 

 

“If the polls are right, we’re about to elect our equivalent of Field Marshall von Hindenburg, in the form of a 78-year-old with obviously failing mental capacity whose career in any case has shown him always unable to resist the blandishments of the left. Biden is, at best, a transitional figure to the complete wokification of the Democratic Party, and the further extension of the administrative state that is its preferred instrument of rule.”

 

How good and hard do Americans want to get it for the next four years?

 

 

 

 

 

I love this argument. It shows just how terrible Trump is.

 

Imagine if say 50 percent of the stuff you post or other right leaning posters post on is true. Yet, Trump still can't beat Biden? This is an out right rejection by the American people of Trumpian politics.

 

It's not like Trump is running against Hope Obama post Bush. He's running against a guy that can barely remember his own name and America is still like hey that's better than Trump.

 

For Trump, this is like playing a game against the 2020 Jets and losing.

 

This election has been framed as a referendum on Trump and America is saying No Thank You.

 

The more the right tries to make Biden look bad, the worse the loss will be.

Edited October 20, 2020 by Backintheday544

[Kemp]

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN27531P?__twitter_impression=true

 

Trump’s lawyers.

[Back2Buff]

So this guy at work and myself are having a disagreement on the stock market with Biden in office.

 

He thinks it will go down immediately but end up with the same positive slope, reaching heights higher than it was during Trumps administration.

 

I personally think we are going to a depression, than recession with Biden.  I think you will see a huge sell off, and some uptick just because people will try to profit from the immediate response, but then I see a long downturn extending for years.

 

I just think Trump is going to everything in his power to get the stock market to decrease to prove he was the one keeping the positive model.  I also think the whole tax situation will play a role.  If it is true about the LT tax gain changing, there will be a lot of sell off going on.

[Taro T]

3 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

So this guy at work and myself are having a disagreement on the stock market with Biden in office.

 

He thinks it will go down immediately but end up with the same positive slope, reaching heights higher than it was during Trumps administration.

 

I personally think we are going to a depression, than recession with Biden.  I think you will see a huge sell off, and some uptick just because people will try to profit from the immediate response, but then I see a long downturn extending for years.

 

I just think Trump is going to everything in his power to get the stock market to decrease to prove he was the one keeping the positive model.  I also think the whole tax situation will play a role.  If it is true about the LT tax gain changing, there will be a lot of sell off going on.

 

Expecting we'll see the same sort of thing we saw under 44.  The stock market will do well because the companies listed are large enough that they can meet the additional regulatory hurdles that get imposed, but small businesses that were succeeding prior to the lockdowns without the same resources will struggle or fail.  The economy is far bigger than just the Dow or even the S&P 500.

 

Minority unemployment and under 30 unemployment will continue to be ridiculously high it was under 44's tenure.  You know, the people that the D's claim their policies are geared to help.

 

We'll also see some more terrorism & possibly/likely get into additional international conflagrations as Iran gets back on its feet.   China will resume flexing its muscles as well.

[B-Man]

Joe Biden will appeal to the center by 'appointing never-Trump Republicans like former Ohio Gov. John Kasich and ex-Arizona senator Jeff Flake to his cabinet if he wins' - amid fears he is being pushed to the far left

by Maureen Lenthang

 

Original Article

 

Joe Biden is reportedly considering several Republicans for cabinet positions if he wins the presidential election including Ohio Gov. John Kasich and former Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake.Other options the former Vice President is eyeing include former eBay CEO Meg Whitman, who currently heads Quibi, former Rep. Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania and former Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker, according to a new Politico report.Kasich is the most prominent candidate on the list. The Republican former Congressman, who is an outspoken critic of President Donald Trump, has endorsed Biden and spoke at August’s Democratic National Convention.

 

 

 

Edited October 21, 2020 by B-Man

[B-Man]

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Warcodered]

 

[Taro T]

8 hours ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

So, based on the most recent NYP front page article, it seems 44 is saying we shouldn't vote for his former VP because "the Big Guy" actually "made millions of dollars ... from communist controlled China."

 

He must be voting for the Green Party candidate, right?

[Warcodered]

4 hours ago, Taro T said:

 

So, based on the most recent NYP front page article, it seems 44 is saying we shouldn't vote for his former VP because "the Big Guy" actually "made millions of dollars ... from communist controlled China."

 

He must be voting for the Green Party candidate, right?

I'm not surprised you're confused you get your news from the New York Post.

[Taro T]

16 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I'm not surprised you're confused you get your news from the New York Post.

 

[Backintheday544]

Trump when pressed with the hard question of how:

 

Stahl: What about people with preexisting conditions?

Trump: I'll protect it. Will be totally protected.

Stahl: How? 

Trump: They'll be protected, Lesley.

Stahl: How?

Trump: I mean the people with preexisting conditions are going to be protected.

Stahl: How?

Trump: As they are now.

Stahl: How?

[B-Man]

 

 

JoeBiden

My stance on busing was a mistake.

 

My vote for the Crime Bill was a mistake.

 

My vote for NAFTA was a mistake.

 

My vote for the Iraq War was a mistake.

 

Obama/Biden immigration policy was a mistake.

 

Opposing the Bin Laden raid was a mistake.

 

 

 

Vote for me!

 

[ALF]

Trump refuses to be the President for everyone  just his base ,  not good.

[Kemp]

Trump and his supporters are incapable of telling the truth. 

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/smears-against-biden-dont-need-make-any-sense/616824/

Edited October 24, 2020 by Kemp

[Kemp]

 

[Kemp]

I know you're not going to believe this, but Trump lied about something.

 

I don't blame him. He knows no other way.

 

That morons keep believing his lies is the issue.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

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