2020 Election is officially Trump vs Biden

[BillStime]

 

[TakeYouToTasker]

 

[Koko78]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

NOT GOOD: Five More Things You Probably Didn’t Know about Susan Rice.

 

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Rice’s career shows over 20 years of bad judgment and ill-informed policy positions that have damaged U.S. national security and contributed to humanitarian disasters and genocide.

 

She's a perfect match for Creepy Joe!

[Orlando Tim]

3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

The polls were right in 2016, Hillary did win the popular vote by what they said, do you understand that? 

 

 

 I understand that you are finding one small piece that made the polls "right" in 2016, though what is most fun about you is that I sent you facts from reports and you respond by moving the goal post until you are basically arguing they weren't pathetic by every measure.

 

[B-Man]

 

3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

 

The polls were right in 2016, Hillary did win the popular vote by what they said, do you understand that? 

 

 

 

The polls were for "who would win the presidency"     NOT who would have the most popular votes.

 

The 2016 polls WERE spectaculary wrong.

 

 

As is Tibsy.

 

 

 

[3rdnlng]

1 hour ago, Koko78 said:

 

 

She's a perfect match for Creepy Joe!

Someone needs to explain to them that two wrongs don't make a right. 

[Tiberius]

13 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

The polls were for "who would win the presidency"     NOT who would have the most popular votes.

 

The 2016 polls WERE spectaculary wrong.

 

 

As is Tibsy.

 

 

 

A national poll can't do that, silly. 

 

The polls accuractly gaged the presidential race. The state polls were close. 

 

I knew that Wisconsin could go Republican, as they had a Republican governor, so anyone that cared to look saw that the GOP could actually foist this incompetent clown into the Presidency, showing conclusively who hates American 

 

 

Anyone that votes for Trump must seriously hate something about our country. We all know what that something is 

31 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

 I understand that you are finding one small piece that made the polls "right" in 2016, though what is most fun about you is that I sent you facts from reports and you respond by moving the goal post until you are basically arguing they weren't pathetic by every measure.

 

Small piece??? That national polls?? Huh? 

 

Those were correct. Hillary got how many more votes? 

[B-Man]

24 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

A national poll can't do that, silly. 

 

 

That is PRECISELY what they do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Orlando Tim]

9 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

 

 

Those were correct. Hillary got how many more votes? 

The state polls weren't close either but what was the prediction of her to win- please with source- vs how much she won by? Several of the polls underestimated Trump in all 50 states so I am guessing the win was much closer than they predicted. 

[Orlando Tim]

How is it possible we are less than 90 days from the election and we still do not know the VP? I actually think they might pull a stunt at the convention and name someone other than Biden- like Michelle- as the candidate. 60 days ago I would have said no way now I am at 60-40 Biden is still standing after convention.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

4 hours ago, ALF said:

 

That convinces me , she will be the perfect VP  ?

 

Her only successful foreign policy accomplishment, ALF, was to destroy Libya and allow the return of open air slave markets. She considered that a win... 

 

Rice is a really bad person with even worse ideas.

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

 

 

[Brueggs]

7 hours ago, Tiberius said:

The polls were right in 2016, Hillary did win the popular vote by what they said, do you understand that? 

 

 

LOL, isn't that like saying "my football team had more yards than yours".  

It's just now how the game is played...

[BillStime]

gopQ - this country is fkd

 

QAnon groups have millions of members on Facebook, documents show

 

Its time to end the US. Red States can all go to Trump. Blue States can align under an adult.
 

 

 

[B-Man]

Well, this is just desperate

 

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If Joe Biden’s gonna win in November, he’s not gonna do it without Americans’ help.

 

No, we’re not talking about voting for him. We’re talking about this:

 

 

 

 

this is the world’s saddest campaign

 

 

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[IDBillzFan]

5 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

 60 days ago I would have said no way now I am at 60-40 Biden is still standing after convention.

 

He'll be there. Hell, didn't you see him riding a bike? It was awesome! He even did it wearing a mask!

 

I mean, yeah, he wasn't wearing a helmet, but still....Biden's fully capable! 

[Deranged Rhino]

5 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

How is it possible we are less than 90 days from the election and we still do not know the VP? I actually think they might pull a stunt at the convention and name someone other than Biden- like Michelle- as the candidate. 60 days ago I would have said no way now I am at 60-40 Biden is still standing after convention.

 

5 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

He'll be there. Hell, didn't you see him riding a bike? It was awesome! He even did it wearing a mask!

 

I mean, yeah, he wasn't wearing a helmet, but still....Biden's fully capable! 

 

They're stuck with Biden no matter what. Replacing Biden would mean admitting that Trump was right about him in the first place. They can't give Trump that kind of political win at this point in the campaign cycle. Trump boxed them in with his (factual) digs on Biden's cognitive decline. They have to ride Biden all the way now (imo). 

[keepthefaith]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

gopQ - this country is fkd

 

QAnon groups have millions of members on Facebook, documents show

 

Its time to end the US. Red States can all go to Trump. Blue States can align under an adult.
 

 

 

 

Have you actually thought this through?  How the blue states would fund their agenda of free everything and employ their masses without the benefit of right leaning businesses and individuals who would flock to red states and the wagon riders and criminals who would go to blue states in huge numbers?

[snafu]

3 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

 

Have you actually thought this through?  How the blue states would fund their agenda of free everything and employ their masses without the benefit of right leaning businesses and individuals who would flock to red states and the wagon riders and criminals who would go to blue states in huge numbers?

 

Simple,, the blue states would build a wall.

 

 

[TakeYouToTasker]

Prominent Democrats recently ran a “war games” simulation, working through scenarios in order to develop post election strategy.

 

John Podesta “played” Joe Biden.  Under the scenario in which Biden lost, the strategy was to refuse to concede, contest the results, and to have traditional Blue strongholds declare Biden the winner.
 

Democrats then insisted that in order for Blue states to certify the election result, they would demand a slate of “reforms” to the electoral process, including granting statehood to DC and Puerto Rico, and dividing California into 5 states in order to pad the Senate with 14 additional Blue seats; and to abolish the Electoral College.

 

As it continued to play out, and court cases wound down, the eventuality was the political left pushing for civil war, and Washington, Oregon, and California seceding.

 

Again, this was an official strategy session amongst high ranking Democrats.

[snafu]

8 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

Prominent Democrats recently ran a “war games” simulation, working through scenarios in order to develop post election strategy.

 

John Podesta “played” Joe Biden.  Under the scenario in which Biden lost, the strategy was to refuse to concede, contest the results, and to have traditional Blue strongholds declare Biden the winner.
 

Democrats then insisted that in order for Blue states to certify the election result, they would demand a slate of “reforms” to the electoral process, including granting statehood to DC and Puerto Rico, and dividing California into 5 states in order to pad the Senate with 14 additional Blue seats; and to abolish the Electoral College.

 

As it continued to play out, and court cases wound down, the eventuality was the political left pushing for civil war, and Washington, Oregon, and California seceding.

 

Again, this was an official strategy session amongst high ranking Democrats.

 

Boy, what an opportunity secession would be.

Pull all federal resources out of those three states and mass troops on the Idaho, Nevada and Arizona borders.  Pull a bunch of navy ships up to the coastline and besiege them until they capitulate to becoming our slave states with no voting rights whatsoever. Take over as much California farms and food production as the federal government can in the process.

 

[New Improved DC Tom]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

They're stuck with Biden no matter what. Replacing Biden would mean admitting that Trump was right about him in the first place. They can't give Trump that kind of political win at this point in the campaign cycle. Trump boxed them in with his (factual) digs on Biden's cognitive decline. They have to ride Biden all the way now (imo). 

 

Unless he "catches COVID" and drops out.

 

Then Dems play the "Trump's failure to address COVID interfered with the election."

[Deranged Rhino]

5 minutes ago, New Improved DC Tom said:

 

Unless he "catches COVID" and drops out.

 

Then Dems play the "Trump's failure to address COVID interfered with the election."

That’s a fair point.  

[BillStime]

Hey @Deranged Rhino - what ever came of those lawsuits?

 

 

[Taro T]

3 hours ago, New Improved DC Tom said:

 

Unless he "catches COVID" and drops out.

 

Then Dems play the "Trump's failure to address COVID interfered with the election."

 

Doubt that would work, but interesting concept.

[3rdnlng]

5 hours ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

He'll be there. Hell, didn't you see him riding a bike? It was awesome! He even did it wearing a mask!

 

I mean, yeah, he wasn't wearing a helmet, but still....Biden's fully capable! 

What's he have to protect?

[Tiberius]

Trump’s running out of time to turn this around. Looks like he is dragging the rotten corpse of the Republican Party with him. Good 

 

Results	Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Biden	GU Politics/Battleground	Biden 53, Trump 40	Biden +13
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden	Univ. of Wis/YouGov	Biden 49, Trump 43	Biden +6
Michigan: Trump vs. Biden	Univ. of Wis/YouGov	Biden 47, Trump 43	Biden +4
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden	Univ. of Wis/YouGov	Biden 50, Trump 41	Biden +9
Arizona: Trump vs. Biden	Trafalgar Group (R)*	Biden 45, Trump 46	Trump +1
Arizona: Trump vs. Biden	OH Predictive Insights	Biden 49, Trump 45	Biden +4
President Trump Job Approval	GU Politics/Battleground	Approve 42, Disapprove 55	Disapprove +13

11 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

Prominent Democrats recently ran a “war games” simulation, working through scenarios in order to develop post election strategy.

 

John Podesta “played” Joe Biden.  Under the scenario in which Biden lost, the strategy was to refuse to concede, contest the results, and to have traditional Blue strongholds declare Biden the winner.
 

Democrats then insisted that in order for Blue states to certify the election result, they would demand a slate of “reforms” to the electoral process, including granting statehood to DC and Puerto Rico, and dividing California into 5 states in order to pad the Senate with 14 additional Blue seats; and to abolish the Electoral College.

 

As it continued to play out, and court cases wound down, the eventuality was the political left pushing for civil war, and Washington, Oregon, and California seceding.

 

Again, this was an official strategy session amongst high ranking Democrats.

Ya sure. 

[BillStime]

 

 

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[Joe Miner]

14 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

Prominent Democrats recently ran a “war games” simulation, working through scenarios in order to develop post election strategy.

 

John Podesta “played” Joe Biden.  Under the scenario in which Biden lost, the strategy was to refuse to concede, contest the results, and to have traditional Blue strongholds declare Biden the winner.
 

Democrats then insisted that in order for Blue states to certify the election result, they would demand a slate of “reforms” to the electoral process, including granting statehood to DC and Puerto Rico, and dividing California into 5 states in order to pad the Senate with 14 additional Blue seats; and to abolish the Electoral College.

 

As it continued to play out, and court cases wound down, the eventuality was the political left pushing for civil war, and Washington, Oregon, and California seceding.

 

Again, this was an official strategy session amongst high ranking Democrats.

Not sure if this is something you heard or something you’re suggesting.

 

But either way, if the west coast states wanted to secede and the US allowed it, what makes them think that the rest of the country would just let them have all three states in their entirety?  What would stop the US from carving small portions of those states out and allowing the small portions to secede?

 

Leaving the union isn’t an option.  You would have to fight your way out.  There’s no way they win that fight.  At best they would tuck their tales and take the scraps the rest of the country gave them.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 11, 2020 by B-Man

[B-Man]

 

 

PAUL BEDARD: Short timer: Half of Democrats don’t think Biden will serve all four years.

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

BIDEN FOR SALE: 

 

As Potential Veep, Susan Rice and Husband Stepped Up Contributions to Biden Campaign.

 

 

 

 

 

[TakeYouToTasker]

1 hour ago, Joe Miner said:

Not sure if this is something you heard or something you’re suggesting.

 

But either way, if the west coast states wanted to secede and the US allowed it, what makes them think that the rest of the country would just let them have all three states in their entirety?  What would stop the US from carving small portions of those states out and allowing the small portions to secede?

 

Leaving the union isn’t an option.  You would have to fight your way out.  There’s no way they win that fight.  At best they would tuck their tales and take the scraps the rest of the country gave them.

This is something that happened.

 

As for secession, just government can only occur with the consent of the governed.  Lincoln was a tyrant.  If member states seek to abolish ties to the US government, I wish them well.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

On 8/10/2020 at 8:39 AM, Tiberius said:

The cup of bitterness shall be passed to those arrogant people that supported this incompetent blowhard. Shame on you people for doing this to our country 

No sir--shame on you.  You're preparing to vote for a 1970s Biden, who really represented 1950s America, likely because it makes you feel safer in your bubble.  You can pretend your boy Biden didn't align with racists and lecherous politicians like Byrd and Kennedy, you can pretend he doesn't make racially insensitive comments on an almost daily basis, you can pretend he doesn't have a long history of very questionable behavior with respect to women and children, you can pretend he hasn't been accused of a violent and predatory assault on a woman, and you can pretend a vote for Biden is a vote for progress.

 

It doesn't make it so, and there's oodles of readily available media that suggests that your vote sets us all back 40+ years.  These are the words and actions of the predator you choose to enable, while accusing others of doing exactly what you're doing.   

 

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

No sir--shame on you.  You're preparing to vote for a 1970s Biden, who really represented 1950s America, likely because it makes you feel safer in your bubble.  You can pretend your boy Biden didn't align with racists and lecherous politicians like Byrd and Kennedy, you can pretend he doesn't make racially insensitive comments on an almost daily basis, you can pretend he doesn't have a long history of very questionable behavior with respect to women and children, you can pretend he hasn't been accused of a violent and predatory assault on a woman, and you can pretend a vote for Biden is a vote for progress.

 

It doesn't make it so, and there's oodles of readily available media that suggests that your vote sets us all back 40+ years.  These are the words and actions of the predator you choose to enable, while accusing others of doing exactly what you're doing.   

 

 

 

 

Biden actually will take the job of being President seriously. 

 

Trump doesn't even read his security memos 

 

 

You should be ashamed 

[B-Man]

THE TRUTH ABOUT BIDEN IS GETTING OUT

 

The Democratic Party press has been assuring us breathlessly that the Republicans are in deep trouble, cruising toward a disaster in November. At the same time, they assiduously avoid mentioning that the party with the real problem is their own. The Democrats’ nominee is suffering from an advanced case of dementia that makes it difficult for him to appear in public. The party’s leaders, to the extent they have any, are undoubtedly strategizing ways of getting him off the ticket following their “convention”–which they won’t actually hold.

 

An unbiased observer might think it is the Democrats, not the Republicans, who have reason to fear the voters’ verdict this Fall. And that is before we even start talking about the riots.

 

Somehow, despite the press blockade, word about Joe Biden has gotten out. Rasmussen got this stunning poll result: 59% of respondents don’t think Biden will be around to finish a four-year term, should he be elected. And it isn’t only Republicans who doubt that Biden will be well enough to serve out a term in office. Forty-nine percent of Democrats agree that if Biden wins, it is likely his vice-president will assume the office within four years. No wonder Biden’s handlers are pondering his Veep selection carefully!

 

Bear in mind that it is only August. Most people haven’t yet begun paying attention to politics. The public’s perception that Joe Biden is more or less incapacitated will only grow as voters see him in action and begin following events more closely. Of course, the Democrats want to make this year’s election a referendum on President Trump, whom they think they have fatally weakened with non-stop smears over the last four years. They might be right. But I seriously doubt that a majority of Americans will vote for a candidate whom they rightly see as suffering from seriously diminished capacities. Which raises once again the question whether Biden will actually be on the ballot in November.

 

 

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

12 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Biden actually will take the job of being President seriously. 

 

Trump doesn't even read his security memos 

 

 

You should be ashamed 

We agree on this--Biden (when he's coherent) truly believes in his vision.  He's show no growth at all on racist rhetoric, on groping and fondling and the like, and 1975 Biden made the same type of incendiary and condescending comments about people of color as does Biden 2020.  

 

That happens because people like you continue to align behind him., driven forward to vote for a guy who should have been out of a job 3 decades ago.   That has nothing to do with Donald Trump, he's been a thorn for only the past 3 or 4 years.   Suggesting that you're simply enabling no longer makes any sense.  Your personal brand of intolerance and keeping people under the boot of the government makes it all the troubling.  It's insidious.  

[BillStime]