Defund the Police?

[GregPersons]

5 minutes ago, Doc said:

That saying isn't racist.  I thought so as well until just last week, when I looked it up.

 

I stand corrected. "Cotton pickin minute", that one, not so good. What's another one. "Sold down the river." 

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

I never thought it was. I assumed it had to do with cards.  But I did just look it up and it's attributed to Plutarch.  

 

I always thought it was about the tool spade ("call a spade a spade, not [another tool]) and then years ago someone claimed it was a racist saying.  One of my kids said it last week and I said "you know that has its roots in racism."  They called-me-out and sure enough, they were right.

 

2 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

I stand corrected. "Cotton pickin minute", that one, not so good. What's another one. "Sold down the river." 

 

I don't know.  I don't use them.

Edited June 6, 2020 by Doc

[GG]

1 minute ago, GregPersons said:

 

I stand corrected. "Cotton pickin minute", that one, not so good. What's another one. "Sold down the river." 

I'd guess any saying or song by the camptown ladies?

[Chef Jim]

2 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

It's definitely because you're not racist and not because you're repulsive. Didn't we already give one award for your heroic non-racism? You didn't even yell the N word once this year, probably.

 

You've had several hours to prove to the masses that Chef Jim is a racists and you've not been able to. I assume you think I'm homophobic, xenophobic, misogynistic, and a few other ics right?

 

 

[GregPersons]

1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said:

Haven't you embarrassed yourself enough? You are beyond pathetic...

 

This idea of being embarrassed... well, is it embarrassing to talk to you? Yes obviously.

 

Is it embarrassing to actually engage with chuds like yourself, and like read your actual drivel and give you the dignity of my responses? One hundred percent.

 

Is it embarrassing that I haven't seen any examples of good cops from you, and it would seem like you would know? I think the best you've provided is... FBI numbers about police and murder stats. And you genuinely couldn't believe the idea that the numbers might be unreliable. And it turned out you were a career cop. 

 

Yes yes yes. All of that is embarrassing. But I really, I'm trying to be kind. I am still Buffalo at heart, like it or not. I prefer to be direct. And I love to have a clear purpose. What better purpose than telling racists to eat ***** and die and their lives were pointless and they won't be missed?

 

In the future we will all be embarrassed to have ever known or put up with people like you. 

[Needle]

20 minutes ago, ALF said:

 

Living wage jobs regardless of education. Those were mostly outsourced to low wage countries. 

Or we could work on educating our black youth and assisting the black business owner

[Reality Check]

14 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

Which culture is that? American culture? Black culture? Protest culture? Anti-cop culture? White culture? Hired protestor culture? Which culture that has been ascribed to me am I trying to pass off, my prejudiced friend? What new conclusions do you have for who I am now? You've been doing so well.

 

Btw — look, here, as the old man once again, even though it was predicted to him to his face that he would do this.... we see the attempt to box it in, try to make it something familiar and comforting. The rhetoric of racists is never surprising, because there's been no new original thought. None of the racists are really willing to stand up for their beliefs, you had guys like Richard Spencer and Milo for awhile but they went down with one punch and cried for a couple years. You just have the right wing media — which, by the way, is ***** pervasive, and somehow Republicans and Racist Whites continue to feel persecuted despite having complete control of the culture.

 

Isn't that sad, you think? Looking back on your career as a cop... seeing the world now. 1959, if that's your birth year, you were born into the greatest empire in the world. Unimaginable wealth and power afforded to you. And what did you do with it? Where are you now? What good have you done with the huge power given to you at birth, you useless sack of *****?

 

You bitched. And moaned. And blamed everybody else for your inability to do anything. Everything you stand for — Bills, cops, your generation — complete failure. Frankly, seeing you get increasingly less veiled in your racism and hatred, that seems right. Maybe you're lonely too to top it off. I wouldn't wish you on anyone.

What is your solution for black on black violence?

[Chef Jim]

4 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

This idea of being embarrassed... well, is it embarrassing to talk to you? Yes obviously.

 

Is it embarrassing to actually engage with chuds like yourself, and like read your actual drivel and give you the dignity of my responses? One hundred percent.

 

Is it embarrassing that I haven't seen any examples of good cops from you, and it would seem like you would know? I think the best you've provided is... FBI numbers about police and murder stats. And you genuinely couldn't believe the idea that the numbers might be unreliable. And it turned out you were a career cop. 

 

Yes yes yes. All of that is embarrassing. But I really, I'm trying to be kind. I am still Buffalo at heart, like it or not. I prefer to be direct. And I love to have a clear purpose. What better purpose than telling racists to eat ***** and die and their lives were pointless and they won't be missed?

 

In the future we will all be embarrassed to have ever known or put up with people like you. 

 

Who are the we of which you speak?

 

[GregPersons]

10 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

You've had several hours to prove to the masses that Chef Jim is a racists and you've not been able to. I assume you think I'm homophobic, xenophobic, misogynistic, and a few other ics right?

 

Actually, as I've said repeatedly, and you continue to fail to grasp is... I don't care about you. Is this the second or third time you've done this exact response? I don't think anything about you. You seem like a piece of *****. You have this obsession with me checking you out. I don't care. Again. You seem like garbage. And all of your posts are weirdly obsessive and stalkerish, a number of you are really ***** thin-skinned psycopaths the way you fixate and stalk and badger. It's obvious that you do this elsewhere. It's obvious you don't think that's weird at all, and definitely don't think it's harassment. 

 

I mean this with 100% sincerity — get over yourself, you desperate ***** diva.

 

(Also yes. Your bit of "Irony" award. You could literally, anyone could do that for any post from any person. Repeatedly. It is literally the very basest of observations. MMMMM?  But et tu???? Pot calling the kettle black????? Could do it for anything.)

 

2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Who are the we of which you speak?

 

 

American humans. 

Edited June 6, 2020 by GregPersons

[Reality Check]

1 minute ago, GregPersons said:

 

Actually, as I've said repeatedly, and you continue to fail to grasp is... I don't care about you. Is this the second or third time you've done this exact response? I don't think anything about you. You seem like a piece of *****. You have this obsession with me checking you out. I don't care. Again. You seem like garbage. And all of your posts are weirdly obsessive and stalkerish, a number of you are really ***** thin-skinned psycopaths the way you fixate and stalk and badger. It's obvious that you do this elsewhere. It's obvious you don't think that's weird at all, and definitely don't think it's harassment. 

 

I mean this with 100% sincerity — get over yourself, you desperate ***** diva.

 

 

American humans. 

What is your solution for black on black violence?

[billsfan1959]

6 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

This idea of being embarrassed... well, is it embarrassing to talk to you? Yes obviously.

 

Is it embarrassing to actually engage with chuds like yourself, and like read your actual drivel and give you the dignity of my responses? One hundred percent.

 

Is it embarrassing that I haven't seen any examples of good cops from you, and it would seem like you would know? I think the best you've provided is... FBI numbers about police and murder stats. And you genuinely couldn't believe the idea that the numbers might be unreliable. And it turned out you were a career cop. 

 

Yes yes yes. All of that is embarrassing. But I really, I'm trying to be kind. I am still Buffalo at heart, like it or not. I prefer to be direct. And I love to have a clear purpose. What better purpose than telling racists to eat ***** and die and their lives were pointless and they won't be missed?

 

In the future we will all be embarrassed to have ever known or put up with people like you. 

 

Hey, tell us all again how you are "only out here begging for our lives." That sounded so believable when you said it. Life must be tough in the suburbs

        

[GregPersons]

Just now, billsfan1959 said:

 

Hey, tell us all again how you are "only out here begging for our lives." That sounded so believable when you said it. Life must be tough in the suburbs

        

 

Now I'm in the suburbs. We're on which draft of your Greg Persons fantasy? Is anyone updating the wikipedia entry? Yes, the "our" is -- all people. Everybody who is subject to the violence happening in every city in the country.

 

I love how you have constructed several imaginary realities for me, decided against them, and then blamed me for your own stupid guesses. It's how you see the world. Whatever is happening, you have to be the center and you have to be right. It could not be any other way for you. 

 

But it's humming around the edges of what you're willing to see.... you want to hold on to the fantasy until the grave, oooo if you could just make it. But if you're in your 60s after a long career, doing a job everybody now feels is a grotesque institution that's been allowed to grow rapidly out of control (like your waistline, yeah?) ... depending on your health you've got another couple decades with us.

 

You've still got time to come around, gramps. Just like Drew Brees. You're a piece of *****. But someday the light might go on, and you'll see the shadows on the wall for what they are and walk out of the cave and join the real fight, instead of going out like a little punk in your twilight years. Nut up, old man. 

[Chef Jim]

9 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

American humans. 

 

So what does that make him/us?

 

And what do you have against non-Americans?

 

Methinks you're the racists/xenophobe 

[B-Man]

James Woods proposes an ‘opt-out’ program for the ‘Abolish the police’ crowd

[GregPersons]

 

30 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

So what does that make him/us?

 

And what do you have against non-Americans?

 

Methinks you're the racists/xenophobe 

 

Do you ever feel kinda stupid, going to these lengths, to pretend you have any kind of real problem in your pointless life? Don't you wish you could do something more with your meaty hairy flesh tit existence? Wouldn't fighting for the freedom of Americans seem like a much better, less selfish, less pointless, less useless version of your time?

 

Then your response is.... Oh so you think you're in here as a freedom fighter? No honey, you're not getting it. We're both in here right now, together. Your objective is to beg for attention, making no worthwhile contribution. 

 

It's important to remain grateful. Do you agree? Right now I am grateful I am not you.

[B-Man]

Watch: Police Officer Refuses to Kneel, Says ‘I Only Take a Knee Before God’ as Protestors Scream at Him

 

 

 

[Doc]

17 minutes ago, B-Man said:

James Woods proposes an ‘opt-out’ program for the ‘Abolish the police’ crowd

 

I was going to post this same idea yesterday. 

[Chef Jim]

7 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

 

Do you ever feel kinda stupid, going to these lengths, to pretend you have any kind of real problem in your pointless life? Don't you wish you could do something more with your meaty hairy flesh tit existence? Wouldn't fighting for the freedom of Americans seem like a much better, less selfish, less pointless, less useless version of your time?

 

Then your response is.... Oh so you think you're in here as a freedom fighter? No honey, you're not getting it. We're both in here right now, together. Your objective is to beg for attention, making no worthwhile contribution. 

 

It's important to remain grateful. Do you agree? Right now I am grateful I am not you.

 

What problems am I pretending to have?  LOL

What do you know about what I do with my life to make a difference?  LOL

Talk about pointless use of one's time.  You're the flag bearer of pointless use of one's time.  LOL

You think I'm here as a freedom fighter? LOL

I'm begging for attention?  Hmmmmm who's the one getting all the attention today?  LOL

You're grateful you're not me?  You don't even know me.  LOL

 

Thank you for making my day. This has been hilarious fun.  I've not laughed so much in a long time.  And it's been all at your expense.  

 

Visit us more often ok.

 

[GregPersons]

20 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

What problems am I pretending to have?  LOL

What do you know about what I do with my life to make a difference?  LOL

Talk about pointless use of one's time.  You're the flag bearer of pointless use of one's time.  LOL

You think I'm here as a freedom fighter? LOL

I'm begging for attention?  Hmmmmm who's the one getting all the attention today?  LOL

You're grateful you're not me?  You don't even know me.  LOL

 

Thank you for making my day. This has been hilarious fun.  I've not laughed so much in a long time.  And it's been all at your expense.  

 

Visit us more often ok.

 

 

-All of your posts are aggrieved.

-I don't.

-We're equal here. I type faster.

-Freedom not your thing?

-Yes, begging. I definitely am getting all of the attention, yay for me. And you're begging for it; you can have it. 

-Another thing to be grateful for.

 

You're welcome. Sorry about the lack of laughter, but it sounds like you're pretty confused in general. You've done great work here, Chef. Way to poop in the soup 

[Chef Jim]

17 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

-All of your posts are aggrieved.

-I don't.

-We're equal here. I type faster.

-Freedom not your thing?

-Yes, begging. I definitely am getting all of the attention, yay for me. And you're begging for it; you can have it. 

-Another thing to be grateful for.

 

You're welcome. Sorry about the lack of laughter, but it sounds like you're pretty confused in general. You've done great work here, Chef. Way to poop in the soup 

 

Oh so now you type faster than me?  I doubt it.  

 

What you made was cold potato soup. What I made was vichyssoise.  

[GregPersons]

Just now, Chef Jim said:

Oh so now you type faster than me?  I doubt it.  

 

What you made was cold potato soup. What I made was vichyssoise.  

 

Yeah, you definitely "won." As I said at the beginning, that was always clear on your intent (and most others). You want to get some sort of gotcha, some kind of way to put the idea in a box and put it away. Called it from the beginning and throughout.

 

Don't forget you can throw over the top of the mountains too, Uncle Rico. 

[Chef Jim]

2 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

Yeah, you definitely "won." As I said at the beginning, that was always clear on your intent (and most others). You want to get some sort of gotcha, some kind of way to put the idea in a box and put it away. Called it from the beginning and throughout.

 

Don't forget you can throw over the top of the mountains too, Uncle Rico. 

 

Trying to win?  Not sure I would put it this way but when someone comes into our community, someone who's, not to my knowledge anyway, been here much before, and starts calling everyone a racists?  And you haven't really done one thing to back up your accusations other that throw out more empty accusations?  Yeah I got a problem with that.  You did nothing today other than shine a bright light on your absolute ignorance.  So if this was your intent?   To ruffle some feathers, piss some people off, troll the "racists" of PPP? Bravo.  Job (sad job but a job nonetheless) well done. 

[keepthefaith]

7 hours ago, GregPersons said:

 

 

 

It is, by definition, impossible to be racist toward white people in America.

 

 

 

That may be the dumbest post in the history of earth.  People of color who judge white people based on the color of their skin are most certainly making a racist judgement. 

 

Some years ago while at work after hours I went to rear of our building to find a black man rummaging through our dumpster and leaving whatever trash he didn't want on the ground.  I very politely approached him and asked him what he was doing.  He said he was looking for boxes suitable for him to use to ship some things.  I objected to him doing so o private property and making a big mess.  I told him I didn't want him doing this and that he should ask permission or just simply ask for boxes and that he should not enter private property after hours with no business reason to do so.  He then said to me "you the worst kind".  I asked him what he meant.  He said, "you a white man, you a racist".  We debated that for a moment and then I asked him to leave.

 

So this individual wasn't making a racist judgement, acting in a racist manner?  I can assure you that his skin color had no impact on my inquiry with him. 

[Uncle Joe]

1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Trying to win?  Not sure I would put it this way but when someone comes into our community, someone who's, not to my knowledge anyway, been here much before, and starts calling everyone a racists?  And you haven't really done one thing to back up your accusations other that throw out more empty accusations?  Yeah I got a problem with that.  You did nothing today other than shine a bright light on your absolute ignorance.  So if this was your intent?   To ruffle some feathers, piss some people off, troll the "racists" of PPP? Bravo.  Job (sad job but a job nonetheless) well done. 

His intent was made early on "I would say I hate to break it to you, but I am here to piss in some racist cheerios this morning."

[Chef Jim]

3 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said:

His intent was made early on "I would say I hate to break it to you, but I am here to piss in some racist cheerios this morning."

I missed that.  @GregPersons we frown on crusades here. Interesting how all our other lib friends were mostly MIA all day. 

[Big Blitz]

 

[B-Man]

 

IF YOU WON’T PROTECT PEOPLE, THEY WILL PROTECT THEMSELVES: 

 

“Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot said the city will not tolerate vigilantism after groups of mostly white men patrolled the streets of the Bridgeport neighborhood on Wednesday night in response to a nearby city protest.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 7, 2020 by B-Man

[GregPersons]

 

3 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

 

That may be the dumbest post in the history of earth.  People of color who judge white people based on the color of their skin are most certainly making a racist judgement. 

 

Some years ago while at work after hours I went to rear of our building to find a black man rummaging through our dumpster and leaving whatever trash he didn't want on the ground.  I very politely approached him and asked him what he was doing.  He said he was looking for boxes suitable for him to use to ship some things.  I objected to him doing so o private property and making a big mess.  I told him I didn't want him doing this and that he should ask permission or just simply ask for boxes and that he should not enter private property after hours with no business reason to do so.  He then said to me "you the worst kind".  I asked him what he meant.  He said, "you a white man, you a racist".  We debated that for a moment and then I asked him to leave.

 

So this individual wasn't making a racist judgement, acting in a racist manner?  I can assure you that his skin color had no impact on my inquiry with him. 

 

You should've read my entire post before responding to one sentence. There is a difference between racism (systemic) and prejudice (individual). You are describing prejudice.

 

The reason it is impossible to be racist toward White people in America is because nothing you say or imagine or do to a White person on an individual basis can eliminate the inherent privileges they are born into. No individual action can remove the majority dominant status in the culture. Do you see the difference?

 

As desperately as Whites have tried to, amazingly, position themselves as somehow being the victims of racism —  "reverse racism" and "the race card" and "affirmative action" and "cracker" (lmao) and allllllll the desperate ways of acting aggrieved -- truly there are no bigger hypocritical babies in the history of the modern world than White Americans and their treatment toward Black Americans. Imagine a White generation that made a real effort to helping... without being prompted with begging and piles of dead bodies. Imagine a White generation of Americans that lived the values they claim so loudly. Maybe your grandkids.

[Hedge]

 

 

[GregPersons]

2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

This is great.

Just now, Hedge said:

 

 

 

This is a nightmare.

[Chef Jim]

40 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

 

You should've read my entire post before responding to one sentence. There is a difference between racism (systemic) and prejudice (individual). You are describing prejudice.

 

The reason it is impossible to be racist toward White people in America is because nothing you say or imagine or do to a White person on an individual basis can eliminate the inherent privileges they are born into. No individual action can remove the majority dominant status in the culture. Do you see the difference?

 

As desperately as Whites have tried to, amazingly, position themselves as somehow being the victims of racism —  "reverse racism" and "the race card" and "affirmative action" and "cracker" (lmao) and allllllll the desperate ways of acting aggrieved -- truly there are no bigger hypocritical babies in the history of the modern world than White Americans and their treatment toward Black Americans. Imagine a White generation that made a real effort to helping... without being prompted with begging and piles of dead bodies. Imagine a White generation of Americans that lived the values they claim so loudly. Maybe your grandkids.

Piles of dead bodies. Good lord. The hysteria. 

[GregPersons]

Just now, Chef Jim said:

Piles of dead bodies. Good lord. The hysteria. 

 

Love to see chuds of no value laugh at the dead.

 

Rot in hell, racist.

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, GregPersons said:

 

Love to see chuds of no value laugh at the dead.

 

Rot in hell, racist.

Who is laughing at the dead? 
 

And such anger Greggy.  Sorry I’ve upset you so much. 

[GregPersons]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

Who is laughing at the dead? 
 

And such anger Greggy.  Sorry I’ve upset you so much. 

 

How do you not get this. I am repeating myself over and over. And did I not just tell you your exact value? No value. You have no impact whatsoever on me. You are a fun little dorky nemesis and racist punching bag. That you allow yourself to continue to be used by me... after I continue telling you over and again... is just some kinda BDSM ***** at this point. You and "Lady G", maybe?  ?  

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, GregPersons said:

 

How do you not get this. I am repeating myself over and over. And did I not just tell you your exact value? No value. You have no impact whatsoever on me. You are a fun little dorky nemesis and racist punching bag. That you allow yourself to continue to be used by me... after I continue telling you over and again... is just some kinda BDSM ***** at this point. You and "Lady G", maybe?  ?  

Oh I have a great impact on you Greggy. I’m so deep in your head. You think I’m a racist but can’t quite tell me why.   You tell me to rot I hell. Oh I have a deep impact on you. 

[GregPersons]

3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Oh I have a great impact on you Greggy. I’m so deep in your head. You think I’m a racist but can’t quite tell me why.   You tell me to rot I hell. Oh I have a deep impact on you. 

 

Conservatives/racists love the idea of "living rent free in your head." They all say this one all the time and, in so many words, that's your statement here. Again, the great joke is how much you're telling on yourself. It's funny and I wish you could see it.

[Chef Jim]

2 minutes ago, GregPersons said:

 

Conservatives/racists love the idea of "living rent free in your head." They all say this one all the time and, in so many words, that's your statement here. Again, the great joke is how much you're telling on yourself. It's funny and I wish you could see it.

Ahhhhh. So finally you show your hand. I’m conservative therefore I’m a racist.  Thanks for laying your ignorance out there for all to see. 

[GregPersons]

8 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Ahhhhh. So finally you show your hand. I’m conservative therefore I’m a racist.  Thanks for laying your ignorance out there for all to see. 

 

Do you not get tired of me pointing out to you that you are not the point? You are so obsessed with how you are defined. You can be prom queen if you like. Define yourself how you want. 

 

Yes, conservatives uphold racist power structures. It's fine if that's your belief. At least be knowledgable about the reality and history of your own country and what you support. Or are you going to try to pretend Lincoln was GOP or some stupid *****? I cannot wait.

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, GregPersons said:

 

Do you not get tired of me pointing out to you that you are not the point? You are so obsessed with how you are defined. You can be prom queen if you like. Define yourself how you want. 

 

Yes, conservatives uphold racist power structures. It's fine if that's your belief. At least be knowledgable about the reality and history of your own country and what you support. Or are you going to try to pretend Lincoln was GOP or some stupid *****? I cannot wait.

It’s not how I define myself you dumb *****. You just assume that every conservative is racist. That’s fine. Be ignorant. It’s not very becoming but it’s who you are. I’m just glad I got you to admit it. In Greg’s tiny mind all conservatives are racists. Good luck defending that one here. Goodnight. 

[GregPersons]

4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

It’s not how I define myself you dumb *****. You just assume that every conservative is racist. That’s fine. Be ignorant. It’s not very becoming but it’s who you are. I’m just glad I got you to admit it. In Greg’s tiny mind all conservatives are racists. Good luck defending that one here. Goodnight. 

 

Even after a full day of having it explained all around you multiple times, you end the day still operating on the incorrect usage and definition of racist. 

 

Show me what ignorance looks like!

This is what ignorance looks like!

Edited June 7, 2020 by GregPersons