Should absentee ballots be illegal?

[IDBillzFan]

10 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Attention Democrats & media constantly claiming Trump ‘without evidence’ says mail-in voting can lead to fraud…

 

 

 

Tell me again that there's no voter fraud.

Go ahead.

 

Tell me again.

 

 

[The Guy In Pants]

34 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Tell me again that there's no voter fraud.

Go ahead.

 

Tell me again.

 

 

 

I just want to know how many people believe that absentee ballots are the same as the mass mail in voting promoted by our idiotic politicians. What you think? 7? Maybe 10? Surely we don’t have that many people who can’t function highly enough to discern. If we did; Darwin is a lying B word.

[3rdnlng]

[B-Man]

 

 

WHY CAN’T BLUE CITIES MANAGE VOTING?  

 

Michigan election officials call Detroit’s primary voting problems ‘appalling,’ ‘alarming.’ 

 

“When it comes to absentee and Election Day precincts, the percentage of Detroit’s precincts with out-of-balance totals was 46%, according to the county data.”

 

 

 

[ALF]

Have in person voting spread out for 6 days ,  by letter of alphabet of last name and hire low risk workers for polling stations.  This is only if covid is widespread in NOV.  otherwise mail in ballots for those at high risk . 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

 

USPS launches new election mail website to help Americans vote

WHECTV
Created: August 22, 2020 06:40 AM

(WHEC) — The U.S. Postal Service announced on Friday that it has launched a new website to help Americans vote by mail. 

The website provides direct links to federal and state election information and resources. The site also offers information for military and overseas voters. 

 

In a press release on Friday, the USPS says,

 

"The Postal Service recognizes that many states are choosing to expand mail-in voting options in the upcoming elections and that there will likely be a significant increase in demand among postal customers to participate in those elections by using the mail. In response, the Postal Service has updated its website to serve both voting customers seeking information on how to use the mail to vote and election officials seeking resources to help make their administration of the upcoming elections a success."

Edited August 22, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[B-Man]

 

COUNT SOME OF THE VOTES!

 

Democrats are relentlessly promoting voting by junk mail, where state governments mail out hundreds of thousands of ballots to names and addresses that don’t correspond to actual, living and legal voters who live at those addresses, hoping that thousands of those blank ballots will come back, filled out in favor of Democratic candidates by party loyalists into whose hands they fall. They are probably right: that will happen, and in some races such fake ballots will probably make the difference.

 

 

You might infer from this that Democrats are consistently loose about voting requirements, and pretty much want to let anyone vote for whoever he or she chooses, five or six times. But you would be wrong. Democrats are sticklers for election laws when they can increase their chances of gaining power.

 

Here are two cases in point.

 

More at the link

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[B-Man]

If the November election is close, expect bad things due to a surge of mail-in ballots

 

Unless one candidate wins by a margin outside of delayed and disqualified ballots, there are going to be problems. Big league.

 

FTA

 

As we explained many times in the past, Election Day chaos is part of the Democrat Party’s political strategy.

 

The goal of this chaos strategy is to bring the conduct and results of the 2020 election inside the “margin of chaos,” where means other than counting legally cast votes, attributable to legal voters, will determine the outcome.

 

Crucial to this strategy is to fundamentally change the way American elections are conducted by eliminating in-person, ID checked voting and substituting unverifiable mail ballots, or online voting.

 

Once Democrats push an election inside the margin of litigation, election laws and the rules and deadlines, with which honest Republican candidates complied pre-election, are thrown out the window by activist Leftist judges and highly partisan Democrat supervisors of elections to the advantage of Democratic candidates and committees who knew in advance that ballots that were illegal on their face would have a good chance of being counted – as they were in the recent New York House District 12 Democrat primary election.

 

Conservatives must come to grips with the reality that for the new radical progressive Democratic Party politics is warfare, and the only rule in war is to win.

 

 

[3rdnlng]

11 hours ago, B-Man said:

If the November election is close, expect bad things due to a surge of mail-in ballots

 

Unless one candidate wins by a margin outside of delayed and disqualified ballots, there are going to be problems. Big league.

 

FTA

 

As we explained many times in the past, Election Day chaos is part of the Democrat Party’s political strategy.

 

The goal of this chaos strategy is to bring the conduct and results of the 2020 election inside the “margin of chaos,” where means other than counting legally cast votes, attributable to legal voters, will determine the outcome.

 

Crucial to this strategy is to fundamentally change the way American elections are conducted by eliminating in-person, ID checked voting and substituting unverifiable mail ballots, or online voting.

 

Once Democrats push an election inside the margin of litigation, election laws and the rules and deadlines, with which honest Republican candidates complied pre-election, are thrown out the window by activist Leftist judges and highly partisan Democrat supervisors of elections to the advantage of Democratic candidates and committees who knew in advance that ballots that were illegal on their face would have a good chance of being counted – as they were in the recent New York House District 12 Democrat primary election.

 

Conservatives must come to grips with the reality that for the new radical progressive Democratic Party politics is warfare, and the only rule in war is to win.

 

 

Looks like the DNC adopted the NHL's All Star voting rules. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

On 8/14/2020 at 7:34 PM, Buffalo_Gal said:

I think you mean absentee ballots.  ? 

die it really matter? 

 

his image is on them. You know those things that are not supposed to have any political bias (either way). 
 

Does it make them ineligible?  

Edited August 23, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce

[Buffalo_Gal]

Just now, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

die it really matter?

 

his image is in them. You know those things that are not supposed to have any political bias (either way). 
 

Does it make them ineligible?  

An absentee ballot in NYS:

Stolen from search:

1. Review the absentee ballot application and confirm that you meet the eligibility requirements for voting absentee.
2.   Fill out the application completely.
3.   Submit the request to your local election office. You should request your ballot as far in advance of the election as possible. The deadline to request a ballot by mail is (received by) Tuesday, October 27, 2020.
4.  When your ballot arrives, read it carefully and follow the instructions to complete it and return it.

So, Cuomo is playing games with absentee ballots:
 

Cuomo signed a bill allowing New Yorkers to request an absentee ballot as long as they check off "temporary illness or disability" on their absentee application, similar to the executive order he signed ahead of the June primary.
 

The bill opens the door for millions of registered voters across the state to apply and obtain an absentee ballot. At a hearing last week, state Board of Elections officials estimate that 5 million New Yorkers could be receiving an absentee ballot, representing four times the number requested during the June 23rd primary.
 

767,314 requested absentee ballots were mailed to New York City residents ahead of this year's primary in June, giving absentee ballots far greater weight than in the previous presidential primary, when 157,885 ballots were sent out.
 

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[Buffalo_Gal]

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

Republicans are going to vote in person 

 

More than 500,000 mail ballots
were rejected in the primaries.
That could make the difference
in battleground states this fall.

Washington Post, by Elise Viebeck

 

Original Article

 

More than 534,000 mail ballots were rejected during primaries across 23 states this year — nearly a quarter in key battlegrounds for the fall — illustrating how missed delivery deadlines, inadvertent mistakes and uneven enforcement of the rules could disenfranchise voters and affect the outcome of the presidential election. The rates of rejection, which in some states exceeded those of other recent elections, could make a difference in the fall if the White House contest is decided by a close margin, as it was in 2016, when Donald Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by roughly 80,000 votes.

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I deposit checks with a picture but we can't figure out how to make it quicker and easier to vote in 2020? Why don't people understand that there are powerful people that don't want easier voting?

 

Our entire banking system is online. All of our money is online. Make voting easier.

Edited August 24, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede

[B-Man]

Detroit Absentee Ballot Chaos: ‘So Inaccurate We Can’t Even Attempt to Make Right’

 

 

Wayne County, Michigan, leaders want the Secretary of State to intervene after there was chaos while counting absentee ballots on primary election night.

 

The Detroit News reported:

 

 

Recorded ballot counts in 72% of Detroit’s absentee voting precincts didn’t match the number of ballots cast, spurring officials in Michigan’s largest county to ask the state to investigate ahead of a pivotal presidential election.

Without an explanation from Detroit election workers for the mismatches, the Wayne County Board of Canvassers requested this week for Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson’s office to examine the “training and processes” used in Detroit’s Aug. 4 primary, which one official described as a “perfect storm” of challenges. The board is charged with certifying election results.

Forty-six percent of all precinct numbers were askew, canvassers were told.

 

More at the link:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/23/detroit-absentee-ballot-chaos-inaccurate-cant-even-attempt-make-right/

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

[B-Man]

MATT MARGOLIS: We Have All The Evidence We Need That Universal Mail-In Voting Would Be a Disaster.

 

 

 

 

 

[SectionC3]

On 8/22/2020 at 8:50 AM, ALF said:

Have in person voting spread out for 6 days ,  by letter of alphabet of last name and hire low risk workers for polling stations.  This is only if covid is widespread in NOV.  otherwise mail in ballots for those at high risk . 

What if I’m out of town in my day?  Oops.  Gotta go absentee.  

[Reality Check]

12 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

What if I’m out of town in my day?  Oops.  Gotta go absentee.  

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by B-Man

[B-Man]

Massachusetts Can Account For A Little More Than Half Of The Million Primary Ballots They Mailed Out

https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2020/08/27/massachusetts-can-account-little-half-million-primary-ballots-mailed/

[BillStime]

8 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Massachusetts Can Account For A Little More Than Half Of The Million Primary Ballots They Mailed Out

https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2020/08/27/massachusetts-can-account-little-half-million-primary-ballots-mailed/

[B-Man]

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Judge voids 50,000 absentee ballot requests in Iowa county

The ruling marks an initial victory for Trump's challenges to absentee voting procedures in three counties in Iowa, which is expected to be a competitive state.
 

A judge ordered an Iowa county Thursday to invalidate 50,000 requests for absentee ballots, agreeing with President Donald Trump's campaign that its elections commissioner overstepped his authority by pre-filling them with voters' personal information.
 

Judge Ian Thornhill issued a temporary injunction ordering Linn County Auditor Joel Miller to notify voters in writing that the forms should not have been pre-filled with their information and cannot be processed. Instead, they'll have to either fill out new requests for absentee ballots or vote on Election Day.
 

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[Buffalo_Gal]

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

This is a must-read:
 

Confessions of a voter fraud: I was a master at fixing mail-in ballots
 

A top Democratic operative says voter fraud, especially with mail-in ballots, is no myth. And he knows this because he’s been doing it, on a grand scale, for decades.
 

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But the political insider, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he fears prosecution, said fraud is more the rule than the exception. His dirty work has taken him through the weeds of municipal and federal elections in Paterson, Atlantic City, Camden, Newark, Hoboken and Hudson County and his fingerprints can be found in local legislative, mayoral and congressional races across the Garden State. Some of the biggest names and highest office holders in New Jersey have benefited from his tricks, according to campaign records The Post reviewed.
 

“An election that is swayed by 500 votes, 1,000 votes — it can make a difference,” the tipster said. “It could be enough to flip states.”
 

The whisteblower — whose identity, rap sheet and long history working as a consultant to various campaigns were confirmed by The Post — says he not only changed ballots himself over the years, but led teams of fraudsters and mentored at least 20 operatives in New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania — a critical 2020 swing state.

“There is no race in New Jersey — from city council to United States Senate — that we haven’t worked on,” the tipster said. “I worked on a fire commissioner’s race in Burlington County. The smaller the race, the easier it is to do.”
 

</snip>
 

But for political pros, they’re a piece of cake. In New Jersey, for example, it begins with a blank mail-in ballot delivered to a registered voter in a large envelope. Inside the packet is a return envelope, a “certificate of mail in voter” which the voter must sign, and the ballot itself.
 

That’s when the election-rigger springs into action.
 

Phony ballots
 

The ballot has no specific security features — like a stamp or a watermark — so the insider said he would just make his own ballots.
 

“I just put [the ballot] through the copy machine and it comes out the same way,” the insider said.
 

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The tipster said sometimes postal employees are in on the scam.
 

“You have a postman who is a rabid anti-Trump guy and he’s working in Bedminster or some Republican stronghold … He can take those [filled-out] ballots, and knowing 95% are going to a Republican, he can just throw those in the garbage.”
 

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The insider said any ballots offered up by him or his operation would come with a bent corner along the voter certificate — which contains the voter signature — so Democratic Board of Election counters would know the fix was in and not to object.
 

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[B-Man]

 

 

As the bold face cheaters that they are.

 

The Democrats Explain Their Voter Fraud Plans

By John Hinderaker

 

Original Article

 

I expect that President Trump will be re-elected in November. The Democrats apparently expect that as well. At least, the Democratic Party web site Axios does. Thus, Axios is warning the party’s faithful that President Trump is likely to win–apparently–on November 3. But never fear: weeks remain in which the Democrats can harvest fake ballots! A top Democratic data and analytics firm told “Axios on HBO” it’s highly likely that President Trump will appear to have won — potentially in a landslide — on election night, even if he ultimately loses when all the votes are counted.

 

 

 

The Al Franken method.

 

Recount and recount until the democrat takes the lead

 

and then stop immediately. 

 

 

 

THATS WHY they need a flood of Mail-in ballots sent out 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

Bloomberg-Funded Group: Trump May Win Election Night, But Joe Biden Will Win Days Later Due to Mail-in Votes

by John Binder

 

Original Article

 

An analytics firm bankrolled by billionaire Michael Bloomberg is predicting that while President Trump will appear to win on November 3, Democrat Joe Biden will actually win the election days later due to mail-in voting.Josh Mendelsohn, the CEO of Hawkfish — funded by Bloomberg and currently working for various pro-Biden super PACs — told Axios that his firm predicts a “red mirage” where Trump wins on election day but Biden wins the election days later when mail-in votes are counted: The reason we talk about a red mirage is in fact because we believe that on election night,

 

 

 

 

[SectionC3]

22 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

As the bold face cheaters that they are.

 

The Democrats Explain Their Voter Fraud Plans

By John Hinderaker

 

Original Article

 

I expect that President Trump will be re-elected in November. The Democrats apparently expect that as well. At least, the Democratic Party web site Axios does. Thus, Axios is warning the party’s faithful that President Trump is likely to win–apparently–on November 3. But never fear: weeks remain in which the Democrats can harvest fake ballots! A top Democratic data and analytics firm told “Axios on HBO” it’s highly likely that President Trump will appear to have won — potentially in a landslide — on election night, even if he ultimately loses when all the votes are counted.

 

 

 

The Al Franken method.

 

Recount and recount until the democrat takes the lead

 

and then stop immediately. 

 

 

 

THATS WHY they need a flood of Mail-in ballots sent out 

 

 

 

 

Hoax.  

[B-Man]

Vote on the day only, with ID.

 

Have to be registered a month in advance, with a verified address.

 

And your finger will get stained in purple dye.

 

The end.

 

Anything else, and you’re risking the dilution of the vote of legitimate citizens. 

 

Who, quite frankly, have had about enough.

 

Or at least I have.

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

Democrat Operative Details His Involvement in Mail-In Ballot Fraud Schemes Going Back Decades

 

“This is a real thing,” the Democratic operative told the NY Post. “And there is going to be a f–king war coming Nov. 3rd over this stuff …

If they knew how the sausage was made, they could fix it.”

 

 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

17 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Vote on the day only, with ID.

 

Have to be registered a month in advance, with a verified address.

 

And your finger will get stained in purple dye.

 

The end.

 

Anything else, and you’re risking the dilution of the vote of legitimate citizens. 

 

Anything else includes absentee ballots, which you keep claiming are OKAY!

 

54-15

 

Tough crowd

[B-Man]

 

[3rdnlng]

10 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

Anything else includes absentee ballots, which you keep claiming are OKAY!

 

54-15

 

Tough crowd

True absentee ballots are quite controlled and thus are OK. The mass mailing of ballots to anyone who might be registered or anyone who might be alive plus anyone who might have lived at the same address plus any pets with snappy names is just asking for fraud to be committed. The dems know this but would rather win by cheating than have elections with integrity. 

[B-Man]

 

 

ANALYSIS: TRUE.

 

 

 

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[Buffalo_Gal]

 

[keepthefaith]

I've received 2 requests for mail in ballots at my home for people who no longer live there.  I can very easily fill them out, mail them back and get 3 actual ballots and vote 3 times.  Not legal but I could do it.  Meanwhile, the other 2 individuals can also vote in their districts. 

Edited September 2, 2020 by keepthefaith

[ALF]

In NY it's a felony to make a false statement applying for the mail in ballot , attempt to cast an illegal ballot , or help anyone to cast an illegal ballot  Each person must apply for themselves.   This is from a county BOE website.

[Hedge]

3 minutes ago, ALF said:

In NY it's a felony to make a false statement applying for the mail in ballot , attempt to cast an illegal ballot , or help anyone to cast an illegal ballot  Each person must apply for themselves.   This is from a county BOE website.

 

Laws only matter when they get enforced or when an individuals moral center prevents them from acting in a way that would violate them.

 

It is extremely unlikely that any left of center judicial process would attempt to prosecute Leftists from voting multiple times, because it doesn't matter if laws get broken, if the end result is to cast anyone out of office who disagrees with the current Leftist agenda.

 

Case in point: Have you been paying attention to how many looters, rioters and arsonists are being released, with no charges against them, by Soros funded DAs?