RochesterRob Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, B-Man said: it’s all basically up to governors: The White House cannot unilaterally reopen the country. Though the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has issued federal guidance advising people to avoid social gatherings, work from home and use pickup and delivery options for food, it is state officials who have put the force of law behind those suggestions. The CDC guidance is set to expire April 30, but the states are free to choose their own paths. Already, the state directives have varied in timing and in severity, and that is certain to continue as they are rolled back. . . . Among those pushing to reopen the economy, according to senior administration officials, is Marc Short, the vice president’s chief of staff and a top adviser to Trump. Short has argued there will be fewer deaths than the models show and that the country has already overreacted, according to people with knowledge of his comments. Anthony S. Fauci, the nation’s top expert on infectious diseases, said Thursday that some places might reopen sooner than others, and that hard-hit New York, for example, shouldn’t loosen its restrictions until there was a “very steep decline” in infections. The President can mostly just recommend, and offer help. Governors are in the driver’s seat here. . Sifting through the various news segments I get the impression Cuomo is being advised to not restart NYS until June. Whether he goes with those recommendations only the governor knows. 1
B-Man Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 Heritage Coronavirus Commission Releases Five-Step Plan to Reopen America. .
RochesterRob Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Unfortunately, many such stories or similar stories will get told in the next year. I don't know that it is possible for any one person to comprehend just how complex the US economy is as a whole or see all the individual pieces.
RochesterRob Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 5 hours ago, RochesterRob said: Sifting through the various news segments I get the impression Cuomo is being advised to not restart NYS until June. Whether he goes with those recommendations only the governor knows. Cuomo showing great concern of second wave per interview shown on local news.
SoCal Deek Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: Cuomo showing great concern of second wave per interview shown on local news. Hey Andrew....just keep it closed forever ....yes, that’s the certainly the safest way to go. Done! 2
mannc Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) On 4/9/2020 at 6:09 AM, Foxx said: well, now you're getting into the deep end of the pool. it doesn't have to be a bad thing. it can be all about the continued evolution of mankind. look at what happened with the industrial revolution, it freed man to not work as hard, to pursue other more worthwhile endeavours. the same is happening with the transition to the Information Age, though there are surely growing pains, we are freeing man up more than ever. the coming age of Technocracy is perhaps the most scarey and one that will have the most prolonged growing pains but if implemented in the right ways, will be the most rewarding for mankind. my problem with the coming technocracy is that the elite are going to use it to further cement their stranglehold on the plebs (you and i). it doesn't have to be that way though, i'm not sure how we prevent it. choke me in the shallow waters... I think it is a bad thing. It’s one more step down the road of humans isolating themselves from other humans, which is a profoundly alienating experience. We are genetically hard-wired to live in close physical proximity to and mutually rely upon a group of other humans. As our society evolves more toward individuals being able to learn, work and play without close contact with others, we move farther away from that hard-wired core. The result is widespread alienation and unhappiness, with huge consequences in terms of things like mental health, PTSD, and suicide. This latest crisis seems likely to exacerbate those trends, and I would argue that it’s not a good thing. Edited April 11, 2020 by mannc 1
ALF Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Fauci: Coronavirus immunity cards for Americans are 'being discussed' The proposal is contingent upon the widespread deployment of antibody tests which the National Institutes of Health and the Food and Drug Administration are in the process of validating in the the U.S., Fauci said. Immunity certificates are already being implemented by researchers in Germany and have been floated by the United Kingdom and Italy, the most recent epicenter of the global outbreak in Europe. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/10/fauci-coronavirus-immunity-cards-for-americans-are-being-discussed-178784
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, ALF said: Fauci: Coronavirus immunity cards for Americans are 'being discussed' The proposal is contingent upon the widespread deployment of antibody tests which the National Institutes of Health and the Food and Drug Administration are in the process of validating in the the U.S., Fauci said. Immunity certificates are already being implemented by researchers in Germany and have been floated by the United Kingdom and Italy, the most recent epicenter of the global outbreak in Europe. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/10/fauci-coronavirus-immunity-cards-for-americans-are-being-discussed-178784 "Papers please." 5
SoCal Deek Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: I loved that album! Played it over and over again. What ever happened to those guys?
123719bwiqrb Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, SoCal Deek said: I loved that album! Played it over and over again. What ever happened to those guys? That I don't know, I think they got incorrectly caught up in the cancelling of Disco in the early 80s.
SoCal Deek Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: That I don't know, I think they got incorrectly caught up in the cancelling of Disco in the early 80s. It’s a shame. That was one of those albums that had multiple great tracks. Very consistent all the way through. Thanks for making me pause and remember it. ?
Magox Posted April 11, 2020 Author Posted April 11, 2020 39 minutes ago, ALF said: Fauci: Coronavirus immunity cards for Americans are 'being discussed' The proposal is contingent upon the widespread deployment of antibody tests which the National Institutes of Health and the Food and Drug Administration are in the process of validating in the the U.S., Fauci said. Immunity certificates are already being implemented by researchers in Germany and have been floated by the United Kingdom and Italy, the most recent epicenter of the global outbreak in Europe. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/10/fauci-coronavirus-immunity-cards-for-americans-are-being-discussed-178784 Terrible idea. Hopefully they reject this abomination of a proposal. 3
Foxx Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, mannc said: I think it is a bad thing. It’s one more step down the road of humans isolating themselves from other humans, which is a profoundly alienating experience. We are genetically hard-wired to live in close physical proximity to and mutually rely upon a group of other humans. As our society evolves more toward individuals being able to learn, work and play without close contact with others, we move farther away from that hard-wired core. The result is widespread alienation and unhappiness, with huge consequences in terms of things like mental health, PTSD, and suicide. This latest crisis seems likely to exacerbate those trends, and I would argue that it’s not a good thing. i believe you might have taken the quoted material out of context. go back and read the preceding conversation.
123719bwiqrb Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Logical Song is amazing, among many others. I think this is the right place for this. I love getting advice from people currently pulling a paycheck. Her(?) opinion is worth less than an NBA player. Maybe in July when nobody can turn a TV on, she'll be out on the street, without a job, rueing her current opinion? My personal speculation - Many people are going to look stupid when the "widespread testing" proves it has already spread to >75% of the country. And don't give me the crap answer "uhhh, the hospitals would have been overrun if that has happened". It's been in the US since December 2019, making it's way thru many small circles, and most people pull thru. It's only when it hits a big city that anyone notices. 1
Chef Jim Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: That I don't know, I think they got incorrectly caught up in the cancelling of Disco in the early 80s. I think they got pushed aside by this little band called Queen?
123719bwiqrb Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Chef Jim said: I think they got pushed aside by this little band called Queen? Another band bites the dust, eh? 1
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