Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Augie said: How many years left on the Hopkins deal? Diggs has a big FOUR years left, too soon for much leverage. Hopkins literally might be looking for double what Diggs will be making after the Cooper deal. Keep that in mind when you consider the trade compensation! Rumor on Hopkins was $20M and I think 3 left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Rumor on Hopkins was $20M and I think 3 left Worth it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Reed83HOF said: Rumor on Hopkins was $20M and I think 3 left Wanting that money with 3 years left would make me want to let him sit. Seriously, even if he was ours. It would hurt me less than it would hurt him. I was in favor of letting Bruce sit on his couch most of the time when he held out. I’m just that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicarious_Fan16 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Rumor on Hopkins was $20M and I think 3 left he has 3 years left and his cap hit is 12.5 13.5 and almost 14 his last year. This just shows how terrible of a trade this was for the texans Edited March 17, 2020 by Vicarious_Fan16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 The new CBA imposes big penalties for holding out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloanBillsFan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Not completely happy with the cost in picks. Last WR the Bills bet the farm on didn't do so well...for the Bills anyway even though he's got a ring now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, SloanBillsFan said: Not completely happy with the cost in picks. Last WR the Bills bet the farm on didn't do so well...for the Bills anyway even though he's got a ring now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) Just now, Doc said: It's amazing how much we value picks on this board - I want players, elite ones at that Edited March 17, 2020 by Reed83HOF 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 46 minutes ago, Mat68 said: This year Buffalo had 2 5th rounders, and 3 6th rounders. After the trade Buffalo still has 7 picks. The 4th round pick is for 2021. The draft is important. Beane out bid 2 other teams for a #1 wr and didnt mortgage the draft to do it. They didn't mortgage the draft because they still have 7 picks? There is no first round pick left, they gave up #22 plus 3 other picks. That #22 is an impact player that is a bargain for 4 years with a 5th year option. Arizona got a better player for a #2. I would have preferred not giving up a #1. I dont think its all that relevant how many they had, they earned those...you dont go around giving away picks because you have extra. I think the compensation was too much but I like the player. I will move on, nothing I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, SloanBillsFan said: Not completely happy with the cost in picks. Last WR the Bills bet the farm on didn't do so well...for the Bills anyway even though he's got a ring now.. Doug Whaley was GM then, Beane has earned my trust in spades. He seems to have a clue, I truly believe the Bills have one of the top 2-3 FO in the league now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicarious_Fan16 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Reed83HOF said: It's amazing how much we value picks on this board - I want players, elite ones at that well after all those years of nothing i think people have been very attached to draft picks and potential picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Augie said: How many years left on the Hopkins deal? Diggs has a big FOUR years left, too soon for much leverage. Hopkins literally might be looking for double what Diggs will be making after the Cooper deal. Keep that in mind when you consider the trade compensation! That really is the argument about value of the trade. Mine was that hate giving away a 1st round pick. But the financials are awesome for the Bills. Beane did very well again, went all in for Josh Allens future. without mortgaging the cap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: It's amazing how much we value picks on this board - I want players, elite ones at that Draft picks are like Lottery Tickets. Give me some winners and I’m all good. . Edited March 17, 2020 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 17 hours ago, ExWNYer said: They had 9 picks prior to the trade. They now have a proven 26 year old commodity on a good contract in Diggs (minus their #1 which was possibly going for the 4th or 5th best WR prospect in this class at 22) and still have 7 picks to either use, move up and down the board, or spin off for future picks. The #4 next year may be recouped in the form of a comp pick(s) or via a trade(s) of players slated for cuts like last year. Diggs + 7 picks in 2020 > 9 picks in 2020 This take is an overreaction on your part, IMO. Opinion? Reads factual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, SloanBillsFan said: Not completely happy with the cost in picks. Last WR the Bills bet the farm on didn't do so well...for the Bills anyway even though he's got a ring now.. No fear Sloan, it's going to be all right. Are you a JFK grad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicarious_Fan16 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, 3rdand12 said: That really is the argument about value of the trade. Mine was that hate giving away a 1st round pick. But the financials are awesome for the Bills. Beane did very well again, went all in for Josh Allens future. without mortgaging the cap It's really nice to finally have cap space the team can work with. They will probably have close to 80 mill next year 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: No fear Sloan, it's going to be all right. Are you a JFK grad? I did in 04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: It's amazing how much we value picks on this board - I want players, elite ones at that The funniest part is they would gladly take a WR at 20th overall, which is what the value of the picks is. On someone wholly unproven and probably the 4th or 5th best WR in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: The funniest part is they would gladly take a WR at 20th overall, which is what the value of the picks is. On someone wholly unproven and probably the 4th or 5th best WR in the draft. It always was move for the top 3 or wait until RD2; those prospects at #22 no way. He is only 26 and just entering his prime! I mean come on! But being fair, BoB's incompetence made this look like an awful trade on our part; it was his trade that was awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: I'm not sure what Wawrow's point is here. Digg's is under contract for 4 more years? Why before he has done one thing in a Bills uniform? Is he getting at an extension to lower the cap hit/year? A trade basically leaves the player with no guaranteed money left on his deal aside from guaranteed base salary. A restructure is common to convert future base salary into signing bonus to add some incentives if the player wasn’t jazzed about being moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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