SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, Roger Goodell said: Due to an oversight by the league office, New England was not granted a 4th round compensatory pick. That pick has now been awarded. To compensate the Patriots for their pain and suffering, the league has also granted New England a 5th round compensatory pick. Cheapskate. Make it 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, BidsJr said: It was not intended to help the lesser teams in the league Yeah I think that’s a problem too. I like the parity in the league and comp picks don’t help that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Bronxbomber21 said: I don't remember buffalo getting a 3rd when they lost Gilmore We signed Hyde, Poyer, Haushka, & some scrubs, but lost Gilmore & Robert Woods who got huge deals. I still don't understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, 947 said: We signed Hyde, Poyer, Haushka, & some scrubs, but lost Gilmore & Robert Woods who got huge deals. I still don't understand it. Simple as out going FA vs in coming FA. Players, cut dont count into it the formula. If Buffalo hits on this offseason. Ie draft and FA, I think this will be the last year Buffalo has more incoming vs outgoing Fa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, 947 said: We signed Hyde, Poyer, Haushka, & some scrubs, but lost Gilmore & Robert Woods who got huge deals. I still don't understand it. If a team signs more than they lose they get zero picks. It’s net loss compared to net gain. If team A has a net loss the picks are rewarded according to the highest contracts other teams gave team A’s free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Rigotz said: Teams receiving third round comp picks this year: Patriots: 12-4 and playoffs (x2) Texans: 10-6 and playoffs Steelers: 8-8 and almost playoffs Giants: 4-12 Seahawks: 11-5 and playoffs Eagles: 9-7 and playoffs Rams: 9-7 and almost playoffs Vikings: 10-6 and playoffs Ravens: 14-2 and playoffs So almost every pick went to a playoff team from the previous year. This is such a disgrace. Smart teams make the playoffs because know how to play the game. Its not always worth re-signing your own if you can pick up a 3rd or 4th if someone else does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 7 hours ago, Bronxbomber21 said: I don't remember buffalo getting a 3rd when they lost Gilmore Its not about individual free agents, its the balance of signings and losses 7 hours ago, Capco said: I understand that's how it works, but it doesn't make sense in a league of supposed parity. It's the opposite of the logic that is applied to the rest of the draft, i.e. the worst teams get the best draft value and vice versa. Which is fine. It shouldn't all be about parity otherwise you may as well automatically award 8-8 seasons to every team and save the hassle of actually playing. Rewarding success is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Bronxbomber21 said: I don't remember buffalo getting a 3rd when they lost Gilmore They didn’t because McD chose to keep a couple of street free agent WRs that did nothing for the team. If he had cut them and or the useless fullback they would have had a third round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 what irritated me .. The Cheats got a comp pick for LaAdrian Waddle Who didn't play a snap due to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 10 hours ago, uticaclub said: Smart teams make the playoffs because know how to play the game. Its not always worth re-signing your own if you can pick up a 3rd or 4th if someone else does Right, but this is exactly my point. Comp picks aren't supposed to be for smart teams that make the playoffs. Comp picks are supposed to be for teams concerned with losing talent because the DON'T make the playoffs and CAN'T retain talent. 2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: They didn’t because McD chose to keep a couple of street free agent WRs that did nothing for the team. If he had cut them and or the useless fullback they would have had a third round pick. Are we really still doing this? The team had ZERO talent and we needed to cut a bunch of bad contracts and replace them with something. They were in a horrible position. They used those players to make the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years and still put us in a great position for the future. Be grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I worry about comp picks precisely 0% of the time. Make the team better, sign the players they see fit, release the ones that don't. If you are worrying about comp picks, you are doing this wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Comp Picks are the key to a franchise success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 17 hours ago, Bronxbomber21 said: I don't remember buffalo getting a 3rd when they lost Gilmore In case nobody else answered you, we didn't get a compensatory pick for him essentially because we signed Vlad Ducasse and Andre Holmes. It all depends on how many players you lose and how many you sign. I believe we ultimately signed the same number so therefore, we would have needed to release one of our signings during the year to get a comp pick for Gilmore. We ultimately decided not to release Ducasse or Holmes and therefore burned the asset. That was also the offseason we lost Woods so we could have gotten two good picks if we wanted, but Beane didn't prioritize that despite what he always says to the media. 3 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: what irritated me .. The Cheats got a comp pick for LaAdrian Waddle Who didn't play a snap due to injury. No they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Rigotz said: Right, but this is exactly my point. Comp picks aren't supposed to be for smart teams that make the playoffs. Comp picks are supposed to be for teams concerned with losing talent because the DON'T make the playoffs and CAN'T retain talent. Comps picks are for anyone that loses players for cap reasons. Its a known formula that GMs are more than aware of and must be factored into their decision making. If the Bills ever get to the point where we make the playoffs every year & our players become overvalued, i think your tune will change. I have no problem with the current comp pick situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Great, what do the Cheats get for losing Brady? 32 1sts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 6 hours ago, DCOrange said: No they didn't. https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/2020-nfl-draft-pick-reset-patriots-awarded-nfl-high-four-compensatory-picks well then I guess I read that wrong Compensatory selections are given to teams that lose more compensatory free agents than it acquires the previous year. In the Patriots' case, they lost Malcom Brown, Trey Flowers, Trent Brown, Chris Hogan, Cordarrelle Patterson, Eric Rowe, and LaAdrian Waddle. They gained only Brandon Bolden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/2020-nfl-draft-pick-reset-patriots-awarded-nfl-high-four-compensatory-picks well then I guess I read that wrong Compensatory selections are given to teams that lose more compensatory free agents than it acquires the previous year. In the Patriots' case, they lost Malcom Brown, Trey Flowers, Trent Brown, Chris Hogan, Cordarrelle Patterson, Eric Rowe, and LaAdrian Waddle. They gained only Brandon Bolden. Waddle and Hogan were cancelled out by signings and then they didn’t get one for Rowe either because the NFL ran out of comp picks to give out. They technically should have had 5 comp picks this year. So long story short, letting Waddle go didn’t ultimately affect their comp picks or ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 hours ago, DCOrange said: Waddle and Hogan were cancelled out by signings and then they didn’t get one for Rowe either because the NFL ran out of comp picks to give out. They technically should have had 5 comp picks this year. So long story short, letting Waddle go didn’t ultimately affect their comp picks or ours . He was still mentioned as a player lost and was part of the “formula”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: . He was still mentioned as a player lost and was part of the “formula”. Yes but even if he didn’t leave the Patriots, they get the same 4 comp picks and we still get 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 13 hours ago, Rigotz said: Right, but this is exactly my point. Comp picks aren't supposed to be for smart teams that make the playoffs. Comp picks are supposed to be for teams concerned with losing talent because the DON'T make the playoffs and CAN'T retain talent. Are we really still doing this? The team had ZERO talent and we needed to cut a bunch of bad contracts and replace them with something. They were in a horrible position. They used those players to make the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years and still put us in a great position for the future. Be grateful. The response was related to the loss of a comp pick for Gilmore. All McD had to do was cut Holmes and one other player. Holmes could have been replaced with a guy at the local Planet Fitness. Ducasse was a starter but was terrible most of the year. He did play better down the stretch, but John Miller could have filled in for a few games. The FB has been useless the entire time he has been here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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