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2 hours ago, NewEra said:

Agreed with this, unless they wanted to part to yeldon.  Cheap contract sure, but he’s also getting a cheap contract for a reason.  If they decide to move on from him, I’m wouldn’t be surpassed.

 

murphy wasn’t bad imo.  He’s solid depth considering that we’ll likely lose shaq.  
 

I really hope smith and Kroft are released.  Bleh.  Sign Olson and a late round flyer to compete with Sweeney 


Good point on Yeldon.  They would be flipping two of the three RBs, but they may want to do just that.  It’s not like they played Yeldon much and that could be an indication that he’s not in their long term plans.  I didn’t hear anything about him being injured or anything.  He’s certainly replaceable. 

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I don't know why people want to cut Long. Nothing sinks seasons faster that oline injuries that can't be overcome except QB injuries. Having good depth there is vital. Cutting it when you don't need to is nonsensical to me. 

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8 hours ago, BarleyNY said:


Murphy - There’s no way is he going anywhere unless the Bills make a huge splash at DE.  Even then they may keep him to fill out their 3 deep DE rotation.  He has a sizable roster bonus due early so any moves that would impact him would have to be very quick. I’d be shocked if he wasn’t here in 2020. 
 

Kroft - He should be dumped based on limited production expectations and the ridiculous contract the Bills gave him.  Also due a roster bonus early and that should get him out of here quickly. 
 

Smith - $500k roster bonus due early so a decision should be made quickly on him.  He’s a bottom of depth chart blocking TE.  We can probably do better or as well replacing him, but there might be some reason to keep him around another season.  A decision either way doesn’t really move the needle for me as he’s not making all that much.

 

Yeldon - Cheap contract for a RB.  Zero reason to move on from him unless he’s done something to piss off the team.

 

Sweeney - Very cheap contract. No need to move on from him until someone better takes his place.  No hurry. 

 

 

 

....fair assessment and agree on all counts...McBeane had a hole to fill and limited capital......thus he rolled the dice on dinged/PED suspended Murphy....took time but he played fairly well in 2019.....hindsight is a beautiful thing.....if he knew he would land Knox ND Sweeney, Kroft never happens IMO......Smith is a yellow flag magnet, so he goes......why not keep Yeldon as you said?.....bigger question is does DiMarco STILL have a viable role?......

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42 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I don't know why people want to cut Long. Nothing sinks seasons faster that oline injuries that can't be overcome except QB injuries. Having good depth there is vital. Cutting it when you don't need to is nonsensical to me. 

That’s what I’m saying?  To save 3 million bucks we’re going to trade away versatile OL depth?  Makes zero sense

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6 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

But the deal is, you don’t cut anyone until there replacement is already under contract, that way Beane maintains leverage when negotiating with whatever player he’s looking to bring in. Otherwise your shooting yourself in the foot. 

I agree most of the time and certainly in this case. Murphy is not terrible just not worth his money.

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

I don't know why people want to cut Long. Nothing sinks seasons faster that oline injuries that can't be overcome except QB injuries. Having good depth there is vital. Cutting it when you don't need to is nonsensical to me. 

I assume he played last year but I do not remember one time he stepped on field- which is a good sign for a backup lineman 

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16 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I agree most of the time and certainly in this case. Murphy is not terrible just not worth his money.

I assume he played last year but I do not remember one time he stepped on field- which is a good sign for a backup lineman 

 

Long played 16.3% of offensive snaps and 13.0% of special team snaps last year.

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On 2/12/2020 at 5:22 PM, John from Riverside said:

Why should we release Spencer Long....they guy has been a excellent backup OG

It’s not a knock on long so much, rather if you’re going to put together a list of possible cap casualty/savings, long makes more sense than Sweeney. 

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On 2/12/2020 at 4:18 PM, CEN-CAL17 said:

Lee Smith and Yeldon nobody should argue....  Smith came in and mentored Knox, perfect. Yeldon never suited up, why pay him if hes never gonna see the field.  Bills should be better next year, why then would Yeldon have a better chance of seeing the field?

 

Kroft is a large savings.  I didn't see enough from him to warrant bringing him back.  But then again maybe leadership thinks theres a lot left to be seen and keep him.

 

Trent Murphys future I think will be determined in FA, if they grab another DE (Veteran), I'd assume they let him go, stay younger possibly with Lawson and grab a Edge DE in the draft.  Murphys future will be obvious, but we gotta wait for FA to happen.  If Lawson is retained, He's gone.

Totally agree!

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You want to cut 3 TE's? That's creating unnecessary holes on the offense.

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On 2/12/2020 at 5:22 PM, John from Riverside said:

Why should we release Spencer Long....they guy has been a excellent backup OG

This is the type of discussion that I was alluding to--a list of the highest cap savings and whether or not it makes sense to move from them.  My point was having Sweeney on the (OP's) list didn't make sense.

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2020/02/buffalo-bills-have-6-offseason-cut-candidates-what-to-do-with-trent-murphy-tyler-kroft-and-the-rest.html

 

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On 2/12/2020 at 3:55 PM, gobills404 said:

He may be big but he's not a powerful runner at all. He also fumbled twice on 29 attempts during the preseason and regular season. That's 6 times higher than the league average.

You're cherry picking stats. I'll cherry pick & go with the one(1) fumble for the whole year of 2018.

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1 hour ago, billykay said:

You're cherry picking stats. I'll cherry pick & go with the one(1) fumble for the whole year of 2018.

I'll stick with what he's done recently.

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