whatdrought Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I see we have another mouth breathing duplicate account. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I see we have another mouth breathing duplicate account. Gary, Warren and Peaceout appreciate your perception in this matter. Next, one of those guys will be claiming DR is here under an alias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, 123719bwiqrb said: SIgh, I'll take the bait. Please tell us why. What has happened to you personally that is "hell"? What has happened to him? Likely TDS. That is a horrible disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Much ado is being made over President Trump wearing a mask while visiting wounded soldiers and veterans at Walter Reed hospital earlier today. It seems a little silly to build a media narrative around taking precautions in the #1 place you would take prudent precautions, but whatever. Meanwhile........................back at the thread. A CORONAVIRUS CHART THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA DOESN’T WANT YOU TO SEE. “Does Axios consider the United States to have lost the war on H1N1? I’m asking for a friend.” Read the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY: Sweden’s coronavirus death toll is now approaching zero, but experts are warning others not to hail it as a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 FL 15,000 cases reported today. New record by a lot. Could easily be cracking 100K well before when Fauci predicted if TX and CA follow FL into numbers like that. I've got to think CA is destined to spike way higher since right now only SoCal is putting up big numbers. https://www.boston25news.com/news/national/florida-reports/YMEQ3LCIYKONVLQVHIV6ST42GE/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I wonder how many of those screaming for those to wear masks had unprotected sex during the height of the AIDS epidemic. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I wonder how many of those screaming for those to wear masks had unprotected sex during the height of the AIDS epidemic. ? Why? The height of the AIDS epidemic was about 35 years ago and nothing like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, shoshin said: Why? The height of the AIDS epidemic was about 35 years ago and nothing like this. WTF does when it happened have anything to do with it? And nothing like this? Maybe but tell that to the gay community. I worked in restaurants in West Hollywood 35 years ago. They were crossing friends off their address books every day. It was a horrible way to go. Just pointing our the hypocrisy. And how many have died of AIDS in the US? Edited July 12, 2020 by Chef Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Wall Street Journal - ‘An American Failure’: New Surge in Coronavirus Cases Strains U.S. Testing Capacity “We’re five months into this epidemic and we can’t figure it out.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 SCIENCE, UNSETTLED: ‘Aerosol boxes’ meant to protect COVID health teams may be dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chef Jim said: WTF does when it happened have anything to do with it? And nothing like this? Maybe but tell that to the gay community. I worked in restaurants in West Hollywood 35 years ago. They were crossing friends off their address books every day. It was a horrible way to go. Just pointing our the hypocrisy. And how many have died of AIDS in the US? What they have in common: They are viruses that can kill someone. In 40 years, about 675K have died from AIDS. In 5 months, we're at 130K. Anyone can get Covid. People engaging in certain behaviors can get AIDS. AIDS for a long time was 100% fatal. Covid is not even close to that. I don't know what population of non-condom folks in the AIDS epidemic overlaps with mask-wearers. You can do a study I guess but I'm not sure what valuable point you think it would make. People having sex in 1981 are pretty old today. Edited July 12, 2020 by shoshin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Brace Yourself: In 2018 the Flu Put More of a Strain on U.S. Hospitals Than COVID-19 Has (Fauci Still at Large) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: Brace Yourself: In 2018 the Flu Put More of a Strain on U.S. Hospitals Than COVID-19 Has (Fauci Still at Large) . Yeah, because treating the flu is just like treating covid in the hospital. Do people think before they write these stories? I guess the headline got its clickbait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, shoshin said: Yeah, because treating the flu is just like treating covid in the hospital. Do people think before they write these stories? I guess the headline got its clickbait. I like most of your posts, but this was incredibly dismissive. I worked with seniors the last 20 years of my career, and I can't tell you how many died of "the flu" It still fills a hospital bed................takes nursing treatment. The point of the article (beyond just reading the headline) is that hospitals CAN be strained by other things, and the "FLU" has certainly done that..........often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, shoshin said: What they have in common: They are viruses that can kill someone. In 40 years, about 675K have died from AIDS. In 5 months, we're at 130K. Anyone can get Covid. People engaging in certain behaviors can get AIDS. AIDS for a long time was 100% fatal. Covid is not even close to that. I don't know what population of non-condom folks in the AIDS epidemic overlaps with mask-wearers. You can do a study I guess but I'm not sure what valuable point you think it would make. People having sex in 1981 are pretty old today. And if we develop a vaccine for Covid the number of deaths here in the US may in fact pale in comparison to AIDS. I was just wondering aloud how many screaming for masks today couldn’t be bothered to put on a condom in the 80’s. I have no idea what you’re getting at with your last sentence other than you’re young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 hours ago, shoshin said: FL 15,000 cases reported today. New record by a lot. Could easily be cracking 100K well before when Fauci predicted if TX and CA follow FL into numbers like that. I've got to think CA is destined to spike way higher since right now only SoCal is putting up big numbers. https://www.boston25news.com/news/national/florida-reports/YMEQ3LCIYKONVLQVHIV6ST42GE/ ...have NO interest in asking a smart azz question......what in your purview/assessment accounts for the Florida case explosion?......it can't be increased testing unless EVERY new positive immediately heads to ICU which is not realistic....sure Florida as well as other states have banned incoming travelers, immediately subjected to 14 day quarantine, but certainly many slip through.....is the Florida explosion because of the defiant, cooped up societal segment throwing "ALL caution to the wind"?.....what is your assessment?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, B-Man said: Brace Yourself: In 2018 the Flu Put More of a Strain on U.S. Hospitals Than COVID-19 Has (Fauci Still at Large) . I have a friend who works in ER. She dreads every flu season. If we’re not required to wear masks and social distance ever flu season this whole COVID thing has been a media fueled kabuki dance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, B-Man said: Brace Yourself: In 2018 the Flu Put More of a Strain on U.S. Hospitals Than COVID-19 Has (Fauci Still at Large) . If we are still in masks and distancing when flu season 2020 comes around, I wonder whether it will be a lighter load. I’d say yes, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I have a friend who works in ER. She dreads every flu season. If we’re not required to wear masks and social distance ever flu season this whole COVID thing has been a media fueled kabuki dance. ...care to assess the nation's reaction to Covid-19 in a NON-election year without a polarizing, obnoxious, cantankerous, "turning the good 'ol boyz protected political network "on its ugly head", corruption exposing swamp draining mofo at 1600 Pennsylvania?.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 minute ago, snafu said: If we are still in masks and distancing when flu season 2020 comes around, I wonder whether it will be a lighter load. I’d say yes, probably. I would say most definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, snafu said: If we are still in masks and distancing when flu season 2020 comes around, I wonder whether it will be a lighter load. I’d say yes, probably. Hence masks to infinity. Another sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) Yup. All these "numbers" are a joke and meaningless. We're going to be distanced till a vaccine or cure. And its absolutely unacceptable. They're hoping we do this horse **&& political fighting thru the election and we get used to the "new normal" they were planning as far back as February. They sure had those PSAs locked and loaded ready to go as soon as we locked down: Edited July 12, 2020 by Big Blitz 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Brace Yourself: In 2018 the Flu Put More of a Strain on U.S. Hospitals Than COVID-19 Has (Fauci Still at Large) . this is possibly the dumbest and worst written article I have ever read regarding Covid. Its July and the fact people are still comparing this virus to the flu shows how ***** dumb Americans are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I go to the Worldometers site (conveniently set up to guarantee panic) and I don't even look at the cases anymore. I couldn't possibly care less about "cases." Tell me if we have patients in critical care and deaths. That's it. But those alone won't create the hysteria. You need perspective you see. Look at all those "cases!!" 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Penfield45 said: this is possibly the dumbest and worst written article I have ever read regarding Covid. Its July and the fact people are still comparing this virus to the flu shows how ***** dumb Americans are If you HAD read it. You wouldn't have written your second sentence. Although that may not be fair..................you probably just couldn't understand it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 minute ago, B-Man said: If you HAD read it. You wouldn't have written your second sentence. Although that may not be fair..................you probably just couldn't understand it. I did read it. its a bull#### article written on an alt right website trying to brainwash people into thinking the flu is worse than this virus. just like right wingers have been trying to claim since March. there is nothing to understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, B-Man said: If you HAD read it. You wouldn't have written your second sentence. Although that may not be fair..................you probably just couldn't understand it. Hey, someone should tells BillStime that people read your schittt. ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Yup. All these "numbers" are a joke and meaningless. We're going to be distanced till a vaccine or cure. And its absolutely unacceptable. They're hoping we do this horse **&& political fighting thru the election and we get used to the "new normal" they were planning as far back as February. They sure had those PSAs locked and loaded ready to go as soon as we locked down: Im pretty much in agreement with this. Mitigation efforts should have only one goal in mind and that is to allow the hospital/medical systems enough slack to treat patients. Every single place that was hit hard wore masks and shut down businesses for at least a month before the virus burnout. Meaning once it was out there was no getting the genie in the bottle. Once prevalency is out of control which it has been for over 4 months there is no plausible way to control it, unless you quarantined states and cities from each other and that is to dystopian to even imagine for this country. Practical mitigation efforts, protecting the most vulnerable, better medical practices/treatments and ultimately burnout is the only realistic way for this country until a vaccine comes about. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 38 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: I did read it. its a bull#### article written on an alt right website trying to brainwash people into thinking the flu is worse than this virus. just like right wingers have been trying to claim since March. there is nothing to understand That is NOT what the article is saying You understand nothing. To those who don't wish to read it, it obviously is NOT saying the flu is worse than covid. It is talking about responses of the medical field and hospital strain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 More testing = more detected cases 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, B-Man said: That is NOT what the article is saying You understand nothing. To those who don't wish to read it, it obviously is NOT saying the flu is worse than covid. It is talking about responses of the medical field and hospital strain. Hospital were way below capacity during much of this. During flu season they are often swamped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: I go to the Worldometers site (conveniently set up to guarantee panic) and I don't even look at the cases anymore. I couldn't possibly care less about "cases." Cases accurately forecast where the deaths are coming and in rough magnitudes but yes, noting is as important as hospitalizations and deaths in terms of measuring. There were people here 3 weeks ago downplaying the case rise in Florida. Cases mean something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Remember people, the testing done a couple months ago was much different. We were generally only testing people with symptoms so the infection rate was much higher. We are now testing 10-20 times more people a day, most without symptoms and of course the infection rate will be much, much lower but there will be many more infections. Understanding that our goal back in March was to flatten the curve so that our medical facilities were not overloaded. We have basically reached that goal and if we don't fall prey to pussys wanting to change the goal we will be ok. Wear a mask where appropriate, keep your distance from others and stay away from high risk people altogether. It should go without saying that the elderly and infirm should take extra precautions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Big Blitz said: I go to the Worldometers site (conveniently set up to guarantee panic) and I don't even look at the cases anymore. I couldn't possibly care less about "cases." Tell me if we have patients in critical care and deaths. That's it. But those alone won't create the hysteria. You need perspective you see. Look at all those "cases!!" Love how they so smoothly went from fear mongering about "deaths" to "cases" hoping the sheeple wouldn't notice. And ALL the media is complicit in this. Trump is right about the media being public enemy number 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Clearly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 This pertains to the T cell defenses that are formed from previous coronaviruses that we were discussing earlier. And this touches on that and discusses the burnout level. They theorize between 10-20% which is pretty close to my estimations. I’m more in the 15-20% area of COVID-19 infections before burnout takes place. I wish the media and politicians could be grown ups about this and properly explain what we have been saying for months, but unfortunately we are where we are, which is panic porn. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburt2625 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I'm really not sure what the morons in this country look at..... This virus is real and is killing people. What is so hard to understand about all of this. Are people really that ignorant??? #IHatepeople Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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