Warren Zevon Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: The instructions, per that tweet, are to ignore the federal guidelines. Perhaps stating that, in instances of overlap, CDC supercedes fed is a better approach than ignoring guidelines for specific circumstances not covered by the CDC? As usual whoever tweeted the tweet did not articulate what was said correctly. New York health official just said not to follow the federal guidelines that you should self-quarantine for two weeks after leaving the metropolitan area. That is not what the official (Zucker) said. Zucker said New Yorkers should continue to follow the CDC guidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Great. Now what about the House? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Thanks Don Lover. Blind faith in a snake oils salesman serves us all well. I said I would listen to the experts and not talk out of my ass!!!! Who is Don Lover? What are you talking about? So basically your approach would be to listen to the experts? You do realize that any chief executive has to weight multiple viewpoints and considerations and then is ultimately responsible for making a decision. So again, very very simple question: What is one thing that you would do that is currently not being done by this president. One thing. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 43 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: (Because they -- the liberal NYC officials -- want the virus to spread to own Trump. TDS is worse than 'Rona) Hoping like heck that there is more nuance to this than 140 characters allow. Because if some twit in a position of authority & credibility really is recommending that people leaving the largest concentration of corona virus in the country not to self quarantine upon leaving, he is setting people up to unwittingly kill their new neighbors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Annnd more scrambling... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 5 hours ago, dubs said: what would you do differently? see, part of the problem with people like you and trans, and the media is that all you do is use vague statements and platitudes to emote your feelings and then criticize endlessly, yet you don’t offer a single critical thought or solution. Then you haven't been reading. The biggest problem isn't what Trump is doing NOW... though he really could go a step further and finally just order a national shelter in place order for 2 weeks. He hasn't done that. He should also just finally actually invoke the Defense Production Act officially and use the power of the Presidency to manufacture much needed medical supplies. He complains about "not being a shipping clerk," but he could really take charge and make stuff happen. But no, my biggest problem is how he totally screwed up in the beginning with the testing and before the beginning by getting rid of the Pandemic preparedness team simply because his ego can't stand having something from Obama's legacy he just can't handle. Oh, and those pointing to polls, overall, I would say Trump has been doing a lot better over the last few weeks. I don't approve, but I certainly think the moment has forced him to rise above the sewer system he's dwelled in for so long. Just because I feel better about how he's handled things over the last few weeks doesn't mean I forgot everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 This is awful sad. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/us/karl-anthony-towns-mother-coronavirus-coma-spt-trnd/index.html Towns learned last week that both of his parents weren't feeling well, and he urged them to seek medical attention immediately, he said. After days of no improvement, they went to a hospital. His father was released into quarantine at his home, but his mother was deteriorating, he said. Though medications would lower her fever, it would spike at night. The hospital staff did everything they could to manage her condition. "We always thought the next medicine would help," he said. "The next one would help. This is the one that's going to get it done. This one will make sure to get it done." One day, he said, she felt great and they thought she was finally turning a corner. But then things went sideways. She got worse, and she was confused. Doctors explained to Towns that she would have to be put on a ventilator. Then she was put in a medically induced coma. Now Towns and his family are left in uncertainty. But they have not given up. "We're going to keep fighting on my side. We're going to win," Towns said. "My mother is the strongest woman I know, and I know she will beat this. And we will rejoice when she does" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Then you haven't been reading. The biggest problem isn't what Trump is doing NOW... though he really could go a step further and finally just order a national shelter in place order for 2 weeks. He hasn't done that. So, you don't know anything about federalism... at least you're admitting your ignorance now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 No Chance Joe -- pushing "his" Green New Deal at the expense of relief packages to the victims of this crisis. That's a good little establishment drone, never let a crisis go to waste. The only people thinking this guy has a chance to win are those with delusional levels of TDS, or literal enemies of this country hoping to take us down. ******************* Seriously. ***** Congress. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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transplantbillsfan Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: What's doubly hilarious about this tone deaf post: @transplantbillsfan made it the day 45 reaches his highest approval rate ever, and over 60% of the public agrees with how he handled the crisis. Secondly, he's still pushing "everyone who disagrees with me is a Russian bot" three years after its peak stupidity. You can't get more tone deaf than that combo. HandlING not HandlED. As I just said, he's doing better lately. Hilarious how much you jump back and forth between polls being meaningless and polls being meaningful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 43 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Then you haven't been reading. The biggest problem isn't what Trump is doing NOW... though he really could go a step further and finally just order a national shelter in place order for 2 weeks. He hasn't done that. He should also just finally actually invoke the Defense Production Act officially and use the power of the Presidency to manufacture much needed medical supplies. He complains about "not being a shipping clerk," but he could really take charge and make stuff happen. But no, my biggest problem is how he totally screwed up in the beginning with the testing and before the beginning by getting rid of the Pandemic preparedness team simply because his ego can't stand having something from Obama's legacy he just can't handle. Oh, and those pointing to polls, overall, I would say Trump has been doing a lot better over the last few weeks. I don't approve, but I certainly think the moment has forced him to rise above the sewer system he's dwelled in for so long. Just because I feel better about how he's handled things over the last few weeks doesn't mean I forgot everything else. How do I put this gently? You don't have a ***** clue regarding nearly everything you comment on. Obama quadrupled the NSC staff by making up a bunch of duplicate teams. One of those duplicate teams that got the old heave-ho was the one you are referring to. It's demise did not do one iota of harm to our preparedness. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, IDBillzFan said: Just like @transplantbillsfan: No time to help. Only time to blame. Don't know what exactly you're talking about here, but it was Trump who politicized this all from the very beginning by trying to compare this to H1N1 criticizing Obama's handling of it saying that was much worse (it wasn't) and claiming that 1,000 American lives were lost at a similar point in the Swine Flu pandemic when no American lives have been lost--1,000 lives lost 6 months after 1st case in USA for H1N1 vs 800+ lives lost 2 months after 1st case in USA. And you guys in this thread spewed the same crap just a month or 2 ago. I really do wish everyone well though, despite your cult-mentality. As for helping, I'm volunteering to help deliver free and reduced lunches to students on the island who live out of district as GEs and need to eat. What are you doing to help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deranged Rhino Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Hilarious how much you jump back and forth between polls being meaningless and polls being meaningful. I've explained it numerous times -- you keep ignoring it. Polls are narrative drivers, nothing more. And the day the narrative (nationally, not just within Trump circles) is that 60% of Americans agree with his handling of the crisis and his approval numbers reach record levels for his term -- you thought it was a good time to post an attempted slam. And then capped it off with "BUT RUSSIA!" propaganda that's been debunked over two years ago. Why? Because your brain is broken. You've allowed yourself to get played. Hard. They want you emotional, not rational. And you oblige like a good little NPC. November will be tough for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Don't know what exactly you're talking about here, but it was Trump who politicized this all from the very beginning by trying to compare this to H1N1 criticizing Obama's handling of it saying that was much worse (it wasn't) and claiming that 1,000 American lives were lost at a similar point in the Swine Flu pandemic when no American lives have been lost--1,000 lives lost 6 months after 1st case in USA for H1N1 vs 800+ lives lost 2 months after 1st case in USA. And you guys in this thread spewed the same crap just a month or 2 ago. I really do wish everyone well though, despite your cult-mentality. As for helping, I'm volunteering to help deliver free and reduced lunches to students on the island who live out of district as GEs and need to eat. What are you doing to help? How many people died from the H1N1? Did the Obama administration replace the depleted supply of N95 masks that the CDC twice asked him to do? BTW, you are incorrect. Obama didn't declare a state of emergency until 1000 people had died during a very slow moving virus. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IDBillzFan Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 21 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: What are you doing to help? You mean other than maintaining the payroll of five people who sit in their homes watching Netflix so they can keep their home and health insurance? You mean other than buying groceries here for people who can't leave their house? You mean other than joining local groups to buy from local businesses and restaurants? My point is to do more and blame less. You far-left chuckleheads are so deranged over Trump that you find it necessary to pop in here to write some childish crap like "Just checking in to make sure everyone I don't agree with are still here!" before spewing repeatedly untrue nonsense about Trump gutting the panademic team. You have one purpose here: point and blame. It's embarrassing to read against a backdrop of other people here talking about what is going on and how to address it. Turn off the PC and try harder. 6 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: You mean other than maintaining the payroll of five people who sit in their homes watching Netflix so they can keep their home and health insurance? You mean other than buying groceries here for people who can't leave their house? You mean other than joining local groups to buy from local businesses and restaurants? My point is to do more and blame less. You far-left chuckleheads are so deranged over Trump that you find it necessary to pop in here to write some childish crap like "Just checking in to make sure everyone I don't agree with are still here!" before spewing repeatedly untrue nonsense about Trump gutting the panademic team. You have one purpose here: point and blame. It's embarrassing to read against a backdrop of other people here talking about what is going on and how to address it. Turn off the PC and try harder. Turn off the PC says the guy who spends exponentially more time in this forum than I do. You can't make this stuff up... But I think I will take your advice and "turn off the PC." Have a nice day and stay safe and healthy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: Then you haven't been reading. The biggest problem isn't what Trump is doing NOW... though he really could go a step further and finally just order a national shelter in place order for 2 weeks. He hasn't done that. He should also just finally actually invoke the Defense Production Act officially and use the power of the Presidency to manufacture much needed medical supplies. He complains about "not being a shipping clerk," but he could really take charge and make stuff happen. But no, my biggest problem is how he totally screwed up in the beginning with the testing and before the beginning by getting rid of the Pandemic preparedness team simply because his ego can't stand having something from Obama's legacy he just can't handle. Oh, and those pointing to polls, overall, I would say Trump has been doing a lot better over the last few weeks. I don't approve, but I certainly think the moment has forced him to rise above the sewer system he's dwelled in for so long. Just because I feel better about how he's handled things over the last few weeks doesn't mean I forgot everything else. Another lie. Trump Shut Down the CDC’s Pandemic Department! Do I even need to point out how virulent and widespread this talking point has been? Sigh: No, the White House didn’t ‘dissolve’ its pandemic response office. I was there. It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Post, that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, “dissolved the office” at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness. Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious. … It is true that the Trump administration has seen fit to shrink the NSC staff. But the bloat that occurred under the previous administration clearly needed a correction. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, congressional oversight committees and members of the Obama administration itself all agreed the NSC was too large and too operationally focused (a departure from its traditional role coordinating executive branch activity). As The Post reported in 2015, from the Clinton administration to the Obama administration’s second term, the NSC’s staff “had quadrupled in size, to nearly 400 people.” That is why Trump began streamlining the NSC staff in 2017. The reduction of force in the NSC has continued since I departed the White House. But it has left the biodefense staff unaffected[.] … It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled. In other words, it wasn’t dissolved, it was streamlined. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Turn off the PC says the guy who spends exponentially more time in this forum than I do. You can't make this stuff up... You're an #######. Seriously. I'd say "try harder" but you need to start with trying at all. Jerk. Edited March 25, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: Turn off the PC says the guy who spends exponentially more time in this forum than I do. You can't make this stuff up... But I think I will take your advice and "turn off the PC." Have a nice day and stay safe and healthy! Good job. True addition by subtraction. Stay safe, and maybe take an online course on how to exercise independent thought so you don't waste more time posting stuff that has been repeatedly disproven! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Turn off the PC says the guy who spends exponentially more time in this forum than I do. You can't make this stuff up... But I think I will take your advice and "turn off the PC." Have a nice day and stay safe and healthy! He took you to church sir, because when you asked him what he personally was doing....he answered. The appropriate response to that crazy Northwestern Boise Boy Idahoan would be: "That's awesome and the world would be a better place if everyone tried to pitch in like that. (You could also ask him why when I read his posts, it sounds in my head like he would look like Tim Graham. It's odd.) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Taro T said: Hoping like heck that there is more nuance to this than 140 characters allow. Because if some twit in a position of authority & credibility really is recommending that people leaving the largest concentration of corona virus in the country not to self quarantine upon leaving, he is setting people up to unwittingly kill their new neighbors. Trump should put a dome over NYC like they did in the Simpson's movie. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 With the finalized "STIMULUS BILL" being finalized (I guess) this post got lost in the Busy/ Trans back and forth, but I think that it is important enough to repeat. 2 hours ago, B-Man said: AMEN. Some money will be wasted..............it's what government does, but don't hand over our power to vote. . 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: This is the same affiliate who is not only in one of the country's hot zones, but also spent most of yesterday pushing the fake news story about the AZ man dying from ingesting fish tank cleaner (while leaving out the whole "he ingested fish tank cleaner). TDS is worse than the 'Rona. Plenty of asswipes to be found if we run out of TP... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: The trends for the rest of this week will be huge to see the direction of the spread. Friday marks the 2-week anniversary of NY getting more serious, as March 13 was the last day where NYC was still fully open for business & contact (even though many people started staying away midweek) It's logical that NY cases grew at a high rate leading up to this week (New Rochelle patient was diagnosed in early March), and if you subscribe to Leavitt's prognostication, the rates should start falling after Saturday. The absolute numbers should still be high given the base, but growth should slow as well as the death rate. Keeping fingers crossed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Plenty of asswipes to be found if we run out of TP... I was struggling to find TP. Found out I can order it from washingtonpost. com and they'll deliver it weekly! 1 year for $29! Must be on special because TP is so hard to find right now! Edited March 25, 2020 by BuffaloHokie13 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I was struggling to find TP. Found out I can order it from washingtonpost. com and they'll deliver it weekly! Careful, I’ve heard you can catch something that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Just now, whatdrought said: Careful, I’ve heard you can catch something that way... TDS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: . 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, GG said: The trends for the rest of this week will be huge to see the direction of the spread. Friday marks the 2-week anniversary of NY getting more serious, as March 13 was the last day where NYC was still fully open for business & contact (even though many people started staying away midweek) It's logical that NY cases grew at a high rate leading up to this week (New Rochelle patient was diagnosed in early March), and if you subscribe to Leavitt's prognostication, the rates should start falling after Saturday. The absolute numbers should still be high given the base, but growth should slow as well as the death rate. Keeping fingers crossed. It took a while for Italy's stats to start dropping and I'm not certain (you could confirm) that the measures were nearly as strict as in Italy. We just hit 1300 cases here and we've been shutdown for close to 10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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meazza Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Just now, Gary Busey said: Please don't take medical advice from someone who lost to an orange guy. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Right - thank god she's not our leader right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Just now, Gary Busey said: Right - thank god she's not our leader right now What difference, at this point, does it make? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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