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The San Francisco 49ers have suspended broadcaster Tim Ryan for one game ... after the ex-NFLer said Lamar Jackson was successful at faking hand-offs because of "his dark skin."

Ryan -- who played with the Chicago Bears from 1990-93 before starting his commentary career -- went on a KNBR radio show to discuss the Niners' 20-17 loss to the Ravens and why the QB is so good. “He’s really good at that fake, Lamar Jackson," Ryan said. "But, when you consider his dark skin with a dark football with a dark uniform, you could not see that thing." “I mean you literally could not see when he was in and out of the mesh point and if you’re a half step slow on him in terms of your vision, forget about it, he’s out of the gate.”

 

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Reading the 2nd paragraph, with all the context, what he's saying makes sense.

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Harmless statement. Still dumb to say.

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I don't want to have to suspend myself, but I see his point. 

 

I took it more to be the Ravens dark jerseys than anything to do with skin color...

 

Image result for baltimore ravens game qb

 

 

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3 minutes ago, John in Jax said:

Reading the 2nd paragraph, with all the context, what he's saying makes sense.

It helped, but probably could of been said differently. 

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I mean,... that isnt so bad, but I guess I see why he needs a quick timeout too.

 

There's probably a different time and place and show to get away with saying that. And possibly better delivery too.

 

I dont think it was hateful. If anything the suspension is a CYA policy from corporate. Still, dude was borderline at best.

 

 

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Yeah, nahhhhh

dont say that bro. 

on the next episode he will say that during a night game the only way you could see Lamar would be if he smiled. 
 

 

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1 minute ago, Motorin' said:

Glad they're wearing white not black this week. 

 

Careful.   Statements like that might this thread booted to PPP...

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If the ball was light colored, and it was Josh Allen he was talking about while he is wearing a white jersey would anyone be mad?

7 minutes ago, Bakin said:

Yeah, nahhhhh

dont say that bro. 

on the next episode he will say that during a night game the only way you could see Lamar would be if he smiled. 
 

 


Why not say it? Lamar Jackson has dark skin. Is that a racist observation? Especially in the context he used that observation?

 

Hell no.

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Using that rationale shouldn't EJ have had a more successful career playing with the Raiders wearing Black uniforms? Dumb thing to say!

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8 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

Careful.   Statements like that might this thread booted to PPP...

Sorry, but the dark football will be much easier to see against the Ravens white unis.

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People going to turn this all political on both sides, ignoring the simple fact that the comment is just plain dumb. By this logic no one should have ever seen a baseball coming out of my hands to hit the fastball. 

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I can see the point, but you gotta realize in this day and age saying something like that isn't gonna end well.

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Just now, The Red King said:

I can see the point, but you gotta realize in this day and age saying something like that isn't gonna end well.

What is his point though? His point is stupid. Every black QB should be successful based on this dumb logic. 

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18 minutes ago, MJS said:

Harmless statement. Still dumb to say.

 

Sad statement on our times that this is considered 'dumb to say' when it is a completely relevant and astute point.

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Saying having dark skin is an advantage - is now offensive?   I thought saying it was a disadvantage was.  I can't keep up with what can and can't be said.

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Just now, KD in CA said:

 

Sad statement on our times that this is considered 'dumb to say' when it is a completely relevant and astute point.

But it’s not relevant. I’m not being a PC warrior. It just makes no sense, politics aside. 

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2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

People going to turn this all political on both sides, ignoring the simple fact that the comment is just plain dumb. By this logic no one should have ever seen a baseball coming out of my hands to hit the fastball. 

Maybe it was different wear I played, I couldn't wear a white shirt on the mound.  People had a hard enough time picking up the ball out of my hand anyway.  Just the right combination of rocket fuel and wild as all hell.

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13 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said:

If the ball was light colored, and it was Josh Allen he was talking about while he is wearing a white jersey would anyone be mad?


Why not say it? Lamar Jackson has dark skin. Is that a racist observation? Especially in the context he used that observation?

 

Hell no.

 

No, no one would be mad if he commented about Josh. And no one would be mad if any black analyst made the comment about Jackson, in a half-joking manner. Or if Ryan said it in a way that was kinda joking with a black co-host, if they had that type of relationship.

 

But accrediting advantages to skin color, especially those outside your own race, in a seriously analytical way, is always going to be borderline at best.

 

 

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1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

No, no one would be mad if he commented about Josh. And no one would be mad if any black analyst made the comment about Jackson, in a half-joking manner. Or if Ryan said it in a way that was kinda joking with a black co-host, if they had that type of relationship.

 

But accrediting advantages to skin color, especially those outside your own race, in a seriously analytical way, is always going to be borderline at best.

 

 


Nobody should be mad, period.

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3 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Sad statement on our times that this is considered 'dumb to say' when it is a completely relevant and astute point.

 

3 minutes ago, White Linen said:

Saying having dark skin is an advantage - is now offensive?   I thought saying it was a disadvantage was.  I can't keep up with what can and can't be said.

 

The point is dont say anything about skin color being any type of advantage or disadvantage, because it doesnt matter. Or at least not supposed to.

 

I get what Ryan was trying to say here, and he aint wrong, but there are better takes to be made.

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Nobody should be mad, period.

 

And I dont think anyone is. I havent read that the station was getting flooded with angry calls. And I doubt anyone in HR is "mad". They just have a CYA policy to follow to avoid lawsuits.

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