Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 I've been giving this some thought. If you were starting from scratch with a football team, where would you begin as GM? Would you go for a quarterback first? Build the lines and go from there? Load up on skill position players and hope for the best? My initial thought is that I'd prioritize positions in this order: OL K/P QB DL CB WR TE RB LB S I think a team with a dominant offensive line and kicking game can get a lot done in terms of ball control and dictating the pace of games, so that's why I would make sure I have those in place before I insert a young quarterback. I could be widely panned as wrong in my thinking, but I'm curious as to what philosophies we have on the board in terms of positional importance. Ultimately, it's about Ws. 1
T master Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 It all starts in the trenches !! On both sides of the ball !! 2 1
GunnerBill Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 1. QB 2. LT 3. Pass rusher 4. #1 CB 5. #1 WR 6. C But you always take the superior talent where possible. 8 2
Gugny Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 3:10 PM, GunnerBill said: 1. QB 2. LT 3. Pass rusher 4. #1 CB 5. #1 WR 6. C But you always take the superior talent where possible. Expand Absolutely this.
Don Otreply Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) On 11/13/2019 at 3:07 PM, T master said: It all starts in the trenches !! On both sides of the ball !! Expand This^^^. If the O line doesn’t control the line of scrimmage the team is likely to loose. Imo, an above average D combined with a very good O is where it’s at, you have to be able to score more than your opponent, it’s that simple. At present we are barely doing this. Go Bills!!! Edited November 13, 2019 by Don Otreply 1
Seasons1992 Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 Great O and D lines mask problems elsewhere. You get those right and you'll be average most of the time. Throw in stars elsewhere and magic! 2
Big Turk Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 QB is first by a mile and its not even close. LT DE CB But its hard to create a generic list because a lot of times positional importance is based on the type of scheme or system being ran. 1
row_33 Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 Everyone agrees the O-line and then maybe two teams act likes it’s a priority quite amusing every year 1
Big Turk Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 3:07 PM, T master said: It all starts in the trenches !! On both sides of the ball !! Expand No sorry that's BS. A great QB will win you 9-10 games pretty much on his own(see Peyton Manning). There is no other single position that evens comes close to this level of importance. Yes a good O and D line will help but those are numerous positions you need to fill instead of just one. 1
Kirby Jackson Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 3:10 PM, GunnerBill said: 1. QB 2. LT 3. Pass rusher 4. #1 CB 5. #1 WR 6. C But you always take the superior talent where possible. Expand Close to my list: 1. QB 2. Pass Rusher 3. #1 CB 4. LT 5. #1 WR I would also take elite talent anywhere though. You need stars to win. 3
Big Turk Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 3:34 PM, row_33 said: Everyone agrees the O-line and then maybe two teams act likes it’s a priority quite amusing every year Expand Maybe its not as much a priority as people who don't know football think?
Kirby Jackson Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 3:36 PM, matter2003 said: Maybe its not as much a priority as people who don't know football think? Expand It’s QB and everything else. You are right in that. Nothing else is close.
oldmanfan Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 Lines. Dominate up front you do pretty well as a football team. 1
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted November 13, 2019 Author Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) On 11/13/2019 at 3:37 PM, Kirby Jackson said: It’s QB and everything else. You are right in that. Nothing else is close. Expand I don't know. If you put Mahomes behind the worst line in football, with no skill position talent to speak of, would he really be successful? Edited November 13, 2019 by Giuseppe Tognarelli 1
MJS Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 Prioritizing the kicker and punter over a QB? QB OL Secondary WR RB LB DL TE K P QB is always going to be the most important, but it is also the position you need to be most patient with. Don't just grab the best a available, grab one that will become great and pick up place holders until then. Oline is obviously super important. Then the secondary for me. You can go very far with a good secondary. It will mask problems in other defensive position groups. Dline is not as important to me because coverage, including at the linebacker spot, trumps pressure these days. 1
T master Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 3:35 PM, matter2003 said: No sorry that's BS. A great QB will win you 9-10 games pretty much on his own(see Peyton Manning). There is no other single position that evens comes close to this level of importance. Yes a good O and D line will help but those are numerous positions you need to fill instead of just one. Expand Well my answer would have been different if the OP would have said position but he said positions plural so that was my reason for my reply, but to reply to you if a QB is running for his life or on his back every play no matter if you are Brady or Manning it won't matter now maybe a Favre or Rogers maybe but a pocket passer is doomed if they have no line to protect them just my humble opinion ...
MJS Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 3:40 PM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I don't know. If you put Mahomes behind the worst line in football, with no skill position talent to speak of, would he really be successful? Expand Doesn't matter. You pounce on a QB that shows evidence of being great no matter where you are in the process, because you might not get another chance to get one. Then you build around him. But yes, if you don't have a good one available, you prioritize other positions and wait patiently until you find one.
Big Turk Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 3:40 PM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I don't know. If you put Mahomes behind the worst line in football, with no skill position talent to speak of, would he really be successful? Expand Yes he would win 10 games.
Captain Hindsight Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/13/2019 at 3:40 PM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I don't know. If you put Mahomes behind the worst line in football, with no skill position talent to speak of, would he really be successful? Expand I think he would
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