jkeerie Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, FUTURIST said: Yeah, and they WON the game on the road and won the SUPER BOWL. Mahomes lost. So this raises the question, as good as Mahomes is, and presuming Allen develops into a solid QB, would you rather have Tre and the defense he's a huge part of and Allen, or Mahomes? (You can't choose Mahomes, plus the Bill's D, because that didn't happen.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, Bubba Gump said: How many of those QB's had rings after one season as a starter? I'll wait. Who cares? They have rings and have PROVEN they can win the big games. Mahomes did not show up in the big game last year. He was exposed by Belichick. The league will figure him out. He is easy to stop if you contain him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, FUTURIST said: Who cares? They have rings and have PROVEN they can win the big games. Mahomes did not show up in the big game last year. He was exposed by Belichick. The league will figure him out. He is easy to stop if you contain him. You are really.........not smart. And I'm still waiting for you to answer my question genius. Edited October 7, 2019 by Bubba Gump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, FUTURIST said: All are better. All have rings. 1 Aaron Rodgers 2 Russell Wilson 3 Tom Brady 4 Drew Brees lol. ”Futurist” living in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, FUTURIST said: Who cares? They have rings and have PROVEN they can win the big games. Mahomes did not show up in the big game last year. He was exposed by Belichick. The league will figure him out. He is easy to stop if you contain him. He put up 31 points on him, 295 yards, and 3 touchdowns. If that's containing somebody than he's a damn good qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Mahomes is great but his WRs are wide open allllllll the time. When they aren’t, they are winning jump balls. Of couse we want Indy to lose but my goodness, it is so hard to root for KC with all the gargling going on by the SNF crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, FUTURIST said: Who cares? They have rings and have PROVEN they can win the big games. Mahomes did not show up in the big game last year. He was exposed by Belichick. The league will figure him out. He is easy to stop if you contain him. Except that Reid adjusted in the 2nd half and Mahomes was unstoppable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, FUTURIST said: ZERO RINGS means ZERO RINGS. He had a chance and he choked for a half in a big playoff game. Belichick destroyed him. All you have to do is keep him in the pocket. And if a DL lines up correctly Brady’s INT stands and Mahomes wins. Probably wins the Super Bowl too as he’s better than Goff. It’s his second year as starting QB so get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, TheFunPolice said: Except that Reid adjusted in the 2nd half and Mahomes was unstoppable THEY LOST!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, FUTURIST said: Belichick owned Mahomes. Mahomes didn't show up for LARGE parts of the game. Mahomes in 2 games against the Pats: 39/67 648 yards 7 TDs 2 INTs if that’s getting owned then I hope Allen gets owned like that all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, jkeerie said: So this raises the question, as good as Mahomes is, and presuming Allen develops into a solid QB, would you rather have Tre and the defense he's a huge part of and Allen, or Mahomes? (You can't choose Mahomes, plus the Bill's D, because that didn't happen.) I think I still go with Mahomes in hindsight at this point, because a large part of the D's success is based on coaching and culture (team defense) imo. Even if the D isn't elite in a Bills+Mahomes version of 2019, I think it'd still be at least average if not top 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, FUTURIST said: Who cares? They have rings and have PROVEN they can win the big games. Mahomes did not show up in the big game last year. He was exposed by Belichick. The league will figure him out. He is easy to stop if you contain him. I am not going to say he will be easy to stop, but the way that everyone is anointing him the greatest of all time................... there will be A LOT of pressure on him to do it in the big games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: Except that Reid adjusted in the 2nd half and Mahomes was unstoppable don't feed the trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, Boatdrinks said: And if a DL lines up correctly Brady’s INT stands and Mahomes wins. Probably wins the Super Bowl too as he’s better than Goff. It’s his second year as starting QB so get a grip. Ifs, could haves, should haves, you have been a Bills fan too long. In the NFL all that matters is WINS. Who care about ifs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 The Colts look way better than I thought they would....so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, jkeerie said: So this raises the question, as good as Mahomes is, and presuming Allen develops into a solid QB, would you rather have Tre and the defense he's a huge part of and Allen, or Mahomes? (You can't choose Mahomes, plus the Bill's D, because that didn't happen.) I’d take the out of this world QB. It’s much harder to maintain an elite defense for a lengthy period of time. It involves locking up too many guys to keep the unit together. Guys begin to walk, signing for bigger money elsewhere. QB’s are protected by the rules, and have increasingly long careers. Elite QB’s almost guarantee one title with decent management. Elite defenses don’t guarantee anything these days. Edited October 7, 2019 by SirAndrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, njbuff said: I am not going to say he will be easy to stop, but the way that everyone is anointing him the greatest of all time................... there will be A LOT of pressure on him to do it in the big games. Amen. This guy played in one big game and LOST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Holding someone to 31 points is “destroying” them? That’s what you get from posters who joined sometime suspiciously around the time of the last Pats * game 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Capco said: I think I still go with Mahomes in hindsight at this point, because a large part of the D's success is based on coaching and culture (team defense) imo. Even if the D isn't elite in a Bills+Mahomes version of 2019, I think it'd still be at least average if not top 12. Okay. That's a fair point. Remember, though, you don't have Tre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, John in Jax said: The Colts look way better than I thought they would....so far. Colts are no joke! Reich is a great coach I'm so happy he finally got a SB ring and against NE no less! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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