YoloinOhio Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) Edited October 4, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 No ***** 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Great info and disrupts part of the narrative on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) The short passes haven't been great either. Beasley needs to catch with his shoes Edited October 4, 2019 by HOUSE 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I'm not too concerned about the deep stuff right now, since teams know that's a threat and they're focusing on it. Daboll put more emphasis on the short game this year, as necessary. Once they establish success with short passing and the run game, they should have higher-percentage opportunities in the deep game later. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Some of his numbers are definitely off.. he says Josh is 0-7 with a pick on passes 30 yards downfield... Next gen stats says Josh Allen's longest completion by air distance is 42.5 https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 We need to dial back how many deep balls we are throwing in the first place. We only have one deep threat on the field most times in Brown, and he's getting most the defensive attention out there. Cole is too small to run deep, Zay is well Zay, and Foster has been barely used when healthy or just not healthy. Daboll needs to do a better job on game planning. Its like he knows he has powerful race car in the garage, but forgets he has a talented but raw "Cole Trickle" behind the wheel, who just learned to drive race cars watching ESPN, and not ready to be fully unleashed yet and a pit crew around him still learning to work with each other. Boom! "Days of Thunder" analogy and it totally works ? #DaysOfThunder #GoBills 1 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Allen has improved greatly in the short game and, honestly, is probably best in the 20-25 yard range. I don't know why all the concern on deep passes as they shouldn't be calling that many of them anyway with the receivers they have outside of Brown. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george c Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Mahomes nightmares again... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I have 2 words for you. Duke Williams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Some of his numbers are definitely off.. he says Josh is 0-7 with a pick on passes 30 yards downfield... Next gen stats says Josh Allen's longest completion by air distance is 42.5 https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing Air distance and distance downfield past the line of scrimmage aren't the same thing (those are called “air yards”) Air distance measures the actual distance the ball was in the air, not the yards past the line of scrimmage the wr caught the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, fansince88 said: I have 2 words for you. Duke Williams. I like your words 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, MDH said: Air distance and distance downfield past the line of scrimmage aren't the same thing (those are called “air yards”) Air distance measures the actual distance the ball was in the air, not the yards past the line of scrimmage the wr caught the ball. So basically it's counting his dropback and possibly yards across the field which wouldn't be picked up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, HOUSE said: I like your words Well, thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 33 minutes ago, TroutDog said: Great info and disrupts part of the narrative on this board. How so? Curious... I haven’t seen any claims of Allen having been accurate with his deep ball? 6 minutes ago, fansince88 said: I have 2 words for you. Duke Williams. Why? He isn’t fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: We need to dial back how many deep balls we are throwing in the first place. We only have one deep threat on the field most times in Brown, and he's getting most the defensive attention out there. Cole is too small to run deep, Zay is well Zay, and Foster has been barely used when healthy or just not healthy. Daboll needs to do a better job on game planning. Its like he knows he has powerful race car in the garage, but forgets he has a talented but raw "Cole Trickle" behind the wheel, who just learned to drive race cars watching ESPN, and not ready to be fully unleashed yet and a pit crew around him still learning to work with each other. Boom! "Days of Thunder" analogy and it totally works ? #DaysOfThunder #GoBills My movie analogy for Allen is Nuke Laloosh from Bull Durham. “I want to bring the heat, announce my presence with authority!’ “This guys a first ball fastball hitter” “So what? He aint seen my heat.” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: How so? Curious... I haven’t seen any claims of Allen having been accurate with his deep ball? Why? He isn’t fast Agreed. They were stating that last year he was nailing them and it’s just not true. Apologies, should have been more clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 On every one of those deep balls there's an underneath route open. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 44 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I'm not too concerned about the deep stuff right now, since teams know that's a threat and they're focusing on it. Daboll put more emphasis on the short game this year, as necessary. Once they establish success with short passing and the run game, they should have higher-percentage opportunities in the deep game later. He’s had opportunities though, he just misfires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: How so? Curious... I haven’t seen any claims of Allen having been accurate with his deep ball? Why? He isn’t fast I only wanted to use 2 words. Limited me quite a bit. But did you see the size of his hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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