Buffalo716 Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 As a former corner I think it's obvious... Not only did the douche bag set a pick, he stuck out his leg trying to Charlie horse Levi That's a hard circumstance to be in for a variety of reasons A) You don't want to give up a catch so instinctually you jump out the way to try and keep with your man B) You really don't want to plow into the WR because that's a fast moving play and injuries occur there alot on contact If push comes to shove and that was me I would plow into the WR and get the penalty called .. But there's gonna be a lot of contact so your gonna have to make him pay or you will
GoBills808 Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 10:18 PM, K-9 said: It would have been OPI if Wallace plowed into him. Any contact at all and it would have been OPI. No contact, no foul. Expand If he runs into the guy he probably gets called for defensive pass interference
BaaadThingsMan Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 5:51 PM, Jobot said: It's a penalty. The Patriots are notorious for this play and always seem to get away with it. It's bad for the game and is one of the aspects that makes the game 'unwatchable' sometimes. Along with reviews, bad calls, tv timeouts, awful game flow. Expand Isn't Belicheat on the rules committee? Lacosse knew he got away with one too, his look afterwards said it all
Rock'em Sock'em Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 10:41 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Can you point to any penalty flag for offensive pass interference EVER thrown on a Bills player for running a noncontact pick play? Maybe we should try it? By the way, I think we are with Daboll as the new receivers learn the playbook and start to work better in coordination. I actually like watching well executed receiver pick/rub plays just like I enjoy watching really well executed picks in the NBA. Expand I recall Jags and Browns - both home games. May have been same year or a year apart. I found this video for the Jags. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000565553/Bills-Nickell-Robey-called-for-pass-interference-on-Jaguars-game-winning-drive
GG Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 6:17 PM, dave mcbride said: I didn't think so from the angle I watched, but I could be wrong. It would be good to get another view. In any event, you simply can't reverse that non-call given the way that PI challenges have been going so far. Expand Just watched both angles and the replay is not conclusive of seeing the actual contact, except there is almost no possible way for Wallace to go flying like he did without the contact from the TEs left leg.
The Frankish Reich Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 On 10/1/2019 at 12:04 PM, Rock'em Sock'em said: I recall Jags and Browns - both home games. May have been same year or a year apart. I found this video for the Jags. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000565553/Bills-Nickell-Robey-called-for-pass-interference-on-Jaguars-game-winning-drive Expand Well, true, it looks like a non-contact PI, but it's a DEFENSIVE intereference call. The question was "why don't the Bills run pick plays like the Pats." The response was "because the Bills - unlike the Pats - would be flagged for OFFENSIVE pass interference. So I still haven't seen an example of an offensive PI called for a non-contact pick play ...
frostbitmic Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 Wallace should've just ran into him, it would get called against any of the other teams in the league but not against the NFL's team.
row_33 Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 Replay has shown that nobody has a clue what PI is, its depressing and they should stop it now 1
Rock'em Sock'em Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 On 10/1/2019 at 12:24 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Well, true, it looks like a non-contact PI, but it's a DEFENSIVE intereference call. The question was "why don't the Bills run pick plays like the Pats." The response was "because the Bills - unlike the Pats - would be flagged for OFFENSIVE pass interference. So I still haven't seen an example of an offensive PI called for a non-contact pick play ... Expand For what it's worth, my response was not what you quoted. The reality is that rub plays and crosses should be part of the Bills offense and I'm sure they are. The play in question looks to be intentional (attempted?) tripping, where there may or may not have been contact to the defender's back foot, and where the defender actually trips and falls. Pretty sure this is called by more than 50% of the time. And if it's called, it would not have been overturned.
MrSarcasm Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) I don't get it. The NFL is getting rid of blindside blocks but the pick play IS a blind side block by the offense. ? Edited October 1, 2019 by MrSarcasm
K-9 Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 On 10/1/2019 at 11:07 PM, Rock'em Sock'em said: For what it's worth, my response was not what you quoted. The reality is that rub plays and crosses should be part of the Bills offense and I'm sure they are. The play in question looks to be intentional (attempted?) tripping, where there may or may not have been contact to the defender's back foot, and where the defender actually trips and falls. Pretty sure this is called by more than 50% of the time. And if it's called, it would not have been overturned. Expand They are definitely in the playbook as we saw against the Bengals when we used a pick to hit Beasley on the two point conversion.
Orlando Buffalo Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 I will state that against any other team that is called during play I do not ever see replay overturning it without contact. The NFL would have to make a big change in how the rule is interpreted to overturn that play on replay.
TheFunPolice Posted October 2, 2019 Posted October 2, 2019 No contact was made so no PI And I hate NE more than anyone on the planet. At best, you're tied with me.
Dr.Sack Posted October 2, 2019 Posted October 2, 2019 They schemed it up good, they knew we’d be in man coverage. Only thing I disagree with defensively is anticipate this play you either run a cover 2 zone with one deep, and a spy rover in the short middle, or simply play a DIME, 4 rushers, 1 linebacker, 4 corners 2 safeties, where the LB sits in the middle and shades coverage over to the side where the pick is coming. If timed good enough the WR gets leveled or you break on the pass and get a pick 6.
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