transplantbillsfan Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 Anyone wondering Allen's 4th quarter stats for the whole season: 22/32 (68.8%) 312 yards (9.8 YPA) 4TDs 0 INTs 139.6 QB Rating 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Anyone wondering Allen's 4th quarter stats for the whole season: 22/32 (68.8%) 312 yards (9.8 YPA) 4TDs 0 INTs 139.6 QB Rating Definitely not a bad thing that he plays his best in the 4th quarter. I would love to see those numbers as his stat line for a single game. Just a good and proper 60 minute ass kicking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Bangarang said: I would love to see those numbers as his stat line for a single game. Just a good and proper 60 minute ass kicking. Yeah, I'm worried that he might be one of those guys who never has complete games very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: Yeah, I'm worried that he might be one of those guys who never has complete games very often. coming back in the 4th qtr and winning is not a complete game? he can play like ***** 3 qtrs but if he comes back and leads the team to a win in the 4th, there is nothing more complete, then WINNING the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: coming back in the 4th qtr and winning is not a complete game? he can play like ***** 3 qtrs but if he comes back and leads the team to a win in the 4th, there is nothing more complete, then WINNING the game! No, having to perform 4th qtr. comebacks in virtually every game, even against the worst team in football, is not only not a complete game, it is not sustainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Seven-N-Nine said: No, having to perform 4th qtr. comebacks in virtually every game, even against the worst team in football, is not only not a complete game, it is not sustainable. BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: BS Lets find out? If you think Allen has been putting together complete games by a QB, then I think we have different definitions of what a complete game is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Seven-N-Nine said: Lets find out? If you think Allen has been putting together complete games by a QB, then I think we have different definitions of what a complete game is... Hurry there's a new topic that was just posted! Troll away!!!! Just curious......does it feel good???? Honest question. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: Hurry there's a new topic that was just posted! Troll away!!!! Just curious......does it feel good???? Honest question. that's all it has been doing since the win yesterday. I hate these people that come here and try everything they can to degrade a WIN. you're right, a troll for sure and a piss poor one at that. Edited October 21, 2019 by DaBillsFanSince1973 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, r00tabaga said: Hurry there's a new topic that was just posted! Troll away!!!! Just curious......does it feel good???? Honest question. I am enjoying the season so far. It is a good team led by a young QB who has tremendously improved over the last year, and has so much more room for growth. It is an exciting time. What doesn't really feel that enjoyable anymore is coming onto this board after a win. It feels like every thread gets taken over by the same small group of posters who feel the need to tell us over and over and over how awful Josh Allen is (far beyond legitimate criticism), and that the rest of us are some how too blinded by homerism or just too stupid to get it - until the negativity, in the end, makes it somehow feel like the team lost instead of won. The second best record in the conference at almost the half-way point of the season; a young nucleus that makes their share of mistakes, but are, growing, getting better, learning how to win - and exceeding the expectations of what most people thought they would be as a team this year; a real sense of competence and stability in the coaching staff and FO; and real optimism that this is a team on the rise. It just seems to get lost, or trampled over, in so many of these threads... Edited October 21, 2019 by billsfan1959 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I'm glad to see Josh's TD passes now equal his INTs (7/7). He needs to get that number to at least 2-to-1 by the end of the season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I am enjoying the season so far. It is a good team led by a young QB who has tremendously improved over the last year, and has so much more room for growth. It is an exciting time. What doesn't really feel that enjoyable anymore is coming onto this board after a win. It feels like every thread gets taken over by the same small group of posters who feel the need to tell us over and over and over how awful Josh Allen is (far beyond legitimate criticism), and that the rest of us are some how too blinded by homerism or just too stupid to get it - until the negativity, in the end, makes it somehow feel like the team lost instead of won. The second best record in the conference at almost the half-way point of the season; a young nucleus that makes their share of mistakes, but are, growing, getting better, learning how to win - and exceeding the expectations of what most people thought they would be as a team this year; a real sense of competence and stability in the coaching staff and FO; and real optimism that this is a team on the rise. It just seems to get lost, or trampled over, in so many of these threads... Agreed. Those same posters act like we don’t criticize Allen. We do, we just also see what he does well. The Offense moves the ball and is extremely efficient in the red zone and 4th Quarter. That has a lot to do with Allen. If we were top 3rd in points and bottom 3rd in yardage, one would surmise that eventually points will move closer towards the bottom of the league yardage #’s, correct? Why can’t we believe the same can happen in reverse? Young QB, 4 new OL, 3 new RB, 3 new TE and 3 new WR... I think there’s reason to believe we have a lot of room for improvement. Does Allen need to do better?.. YUP. Two games in a row with better decision making following that Patriots debacle... this needs to continue. He needs to hit on the deep throws from time to time. Every. Single. Game. he misses at least one dude, wide open, for a TD. That has to change. If/When it does.... look out. Edited October 21, 2019 by SCBills 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I am enjoying the season so far. It is a good team led by a young QB who has tremendously improved over the last year, and has so much more room for growth. It is an exciting time. What doesn't really feel that enjoyable anymore is coming onto this board after a win. It feels like every thread gets taken over by the same small group of posters who feel the need to tell us over and over and over how awful Josh Allen is (far beyond legitimate criticism), and that the rest of us are some how too blinded by homerism or just too stupid to get it - until the negativity, in the end, makes it somehow feel like the team lost instead of won. The second best record in the conference at almost the half-way point of the season; a young nucleus that makes their share of mistakes, but are, growing, getting better, learning how to win - and exceeding the expectations of what most people thought they would be as a team this year; a real sense of competence and stability in the coaching staff and FO; and real optimism that this is a team on the rise. It just seems to get lost, or trampled over, in so many of these threads... I don’t think that’s exact. Everyone is enjoying the ride and the piling up of Conference Ws. Hell, it’s so rare, how could we not? But if the music stops and these meh performances start turning into losses, that’s the concern. We need to see improvement at the prized position. We need to see a 2019 QB throw for 300 yards. This means, that he’s hitting 1-2 deep balls per game and THOSE haven’t been remotely close! The ability to get the 300 opens up the Running game- and not just HIM. Excellent @ 5-1. But, better performances are necessary, if you aren’t just rolling the stiffs! Less stiffs in the back half! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said: I don’t think that’s exact. Everyone is enjoying the ride and the piling up of Conference Ws. Hell, it’s so rare, how could we not? But if the music stops and these meh performances start turning into losses, that’s the concern. We need to see improvement at the prized position. We need to see a 2019 QB throw for 300 yards. This means, that he’s hitting 1-2 deep balls per game and THOSE haven’t been remotely close! The ability to get the 300 opens up the Running game- and not just HIM. Excellent @ 5-1. But, better performances are necessary, if you aren’t just rolling the stiffs! Less stiffs in the back half! 1. If you don't see improvement in Allen's game, then you don't want to see it. 2. This fascination with 300 yard games as a benchmark for success as a QB is one of the most superficial analyses out there of what success as a QB means 3. This is a team that won 6 games last year, with a completely new offense, a young QB in his 2nd year, still lacking all of the pieces they are looking for (as they are still building), and a team that most people picked to not even make the playoffs this year. They need better performances to get to the next level? Shocking. 4. And, oh, by the way, almost every good team (if not all) have the majority of their wins against bad teams. Can we please stop with the qualifications. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I was relieved that the turnovers were corrected. Surprised how motivated Miami was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 62.4% is 24th in the NFL. There is more to a game that this endlessly changing stat. as a team the # is actually 62.0 % Look how bad the Falcons are ... They have a Comp % of 71.5 Ya see where I'm going here? Some stats are just irrelevant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I'd rather Josh be better at the short and medium throws, like he is this year, than the long throws which are low opportunity/success plays. It's the reason why his completion rate is 10% higher than last year and he's top-10 in adjusted completion rate. But hopefully he gets the long ball back. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said: 1. If you don't see improvement in Allen's game, then you don't want to see it. 2. This fascination with 300 yard games as a benchmark for success as a QB is one of the most superficial analyses out there of what success as a QB means 3. This is a team that won 6 games last year, with a completely new offense, a young QB in his 2nd year, still lacking all of the pieces they are looking for (as they are still building), and a team that most people picked to not even make the playoffs this year. They need better performances to get to the next level? Shocking. 4. And, oh, by the way, almost every good team (if not all) have the majority of their wins against bad teams. Can we please stop with the qualifications. I didn’t say that there wasn’t improvement. There has been... slow improvement. 4th. Q leadership is an immense plus! * However, game Mgt. throughout and cutting off stupid errors are critical. *It is not the 300 yards that is a fictional goal. That generally means, the QB did not have to complete +20 completions of an average 15 yards. ONLY the league Superstars can do that. But, they can also toss 1-2, highly accurate bombs for TDs, to set that up. * There are more stiffs in the NFL this year, than I can recall for one year. The Bills are fortunate to be playing many of them in a sked oddity. I’m not overlooking the Ws- as previous versions this Millenium were life and death to beat even these teams. * As you go on though, the team led by its QB must get better against the non stiff teams. Because, there are no more Losers left in the Playoffs. Virtually 100% have winning records, some yuuuge spreads between wins & losses. Know what the record was for the Bills pre McD & Beane against Playoff Teams? Horrendous! 1 in 5- 20%. And waaaay worse on the Road. I have confidence, but let’s see a game, where we can all say- hey, got the W and they freaking steamrolled those bums like the Contender they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: I'd rather Josh be better at the short and medium throws, like he is this year, than the long throws which are low opportunity/success plays. It's the reason why his completion rate is 10% higher than last year and he's top-10 in adjusted completion rate. But hopefully he gets the long ball back. He has really improved his short passing game, which is primarily responsible for his higher completion percentage and more consistent drive yaradge success - and his strength is the 20-25 yard range. That's 99.9% of the passing game for almost every QB (if not every QB). Would it be nice to hit some of those long passes? Of course. However, this fixation on the deep pass is getting a little silly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: He has really improved his short passing game, which is primarily responsible for his higher completion percentage and more consistent drive yaradge success - and his strength is the 20-25 yard range. That's 99.9% of the passing game for almost every QB (if not every QB). Would it be nice to hit some of those long passes? Of course. However, this fixation on the deep pass is getting a little silly. I don't think it's silly, you want the opposing teams defense to at least respect that aspect, and come playoff time you might need that part of the passing game to actually work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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