Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Carolina should trade the rest Of their good players to us while they rebuild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 11 hours ago, KD in CA said: A big contract for an old, disillusioned, broken down Cam Newton? I guess anything is possible. This is a guy who's great when everything is running in his favor. But once anything starts to go wrong, he has no fortitude. A mental midget. the Chargers, Bears, Dolphins, and Broncos love these deals. I don't rule out the Colts either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 ....sure as hell hope the "Carolina Connection" is DISCONNECTED for this clown......could NOT stomach his "Purple Rain Look Pressers" at OBD....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....sure as hell hope the "Carolina Connection" is DISCONNECTED for this clown......could NOT stomach his "Purple Rain Look Pressers" at OBD....... Lets not give any one any ideas! I don't want to see him here! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: Lets not give any one any ideas! I don't want to see him here! ...but I think there are OBD openings for a Sanitary Engineer and beerman......"top pay and benefits"...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...but I think there are OBD openings for a Sanitary Engineer and beerman......"top pay and benefits"...... Good, honest seasonal work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 On 10/16/2019 at 7:31 AM, HiddenInLight said: My brother in law is a Panthers fan and has been saying it's about time to move on from cam since last year. He was already souring on him during the superbowl run. Personally I think Norv Turner needs to get the axe first. He was souring on him during the SB run? Sounds like he had an agenda to never like Cam in the first place. He been hurt and tried to play through it. It’s stupid the amount of hate he gets. He was off to one of the best starts of his career last year before he got hurt. If healthy, he would be a huge upgrade to a few SB teams. Hell a Mitchell T for Cam trade would make a lot of sense. The more Allen plays, the less special he looks. Be a greAt fresh start for both players. 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....sure as hell hope the "Carolina Connection" is DISCONNECTED for this clown......could NOT stomach his "Purple Rain Look Pressers" at OBD....... AFL, why he is a clown? Because he dress weird? He does a lot for the community down there and has be a pretty model citizen in the nfl. Not trying to be overly PC but clown is a word that gets thrown around a lot. Antonio Brown is a clown. Cam is a warrior who plays through a lot of pain and had his body break down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 FWIW, John Clayton suggested a couple of days ago during his weekly segment with S&B that he thinks Carolina will start to move on from Cam Newton now. His time is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Most definitely probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He been hurt and tried to play through it. It’s stupid the amount of hate he gets. He was off to one of the best starts of his career last year before he got hurt. If healthy, he would be a huge upgrade to a few SB teams. He's also been a bit of a punk. Though I will say, for whatever reason, Mayfield is starting to show as much petulance and not taking nearly the level of flack for it that I've seen. 11 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: The more Allen plays, the less special he looks. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Cam may still be a decent QB ( not what he once was) , but wouldn’t want him here. Have to agree with AFL and others; I just never liked the guy’s personality and the wacky outfits and mannerisms at the podium. He seems to be a narcissist, maybe manic depressive idk. If I had to guess, I’d say he probably has a psychological disorder or two. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 He will probably start somewhere with a team willing to over pay & guarantee BIG BUCKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He's also been a bit of a punk. Though I will say, for whatever reason, Mayfield is starting to show as much petulance and not taking nearly the level of flack for it that I've seen. WTF? Kyle the nfl has been invaded by Allen qbs. and cam has been a bit cocky but I think people got overboard hating on him. Rodgers used to celebrate tds. Brady screams at his coaches. Big Ben gets rowdy in bathroom stalls. Jim Kelly was an awful person off the field before social media. But I swear people act like Cam is the devil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Cam may still be a decent QB ( not what he once was) , but wouldn’t want him here. Have to agree with AFL and others; I just never liked the guy’s personality and the wacky outfits and mannerisms at the podium. He seems to be a narcissist, maybe manic depressive idk. If I had to guess, I’d say he probably has a psychological disorder or two. Yeah, there is something psychological there. Chronic need for affirmation and attention. It appears to border on narcissism. It is amazing how common this is, yet when an individual is in the limelight...it is so apparent. Fame sometimes aggravates a pre existing condition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Cam may still be a decent QB ( not what he once was) , but wouldn’t want him here. Have to agree with AFL and others; I just never liked the guy’s personality and the wacky outfits and mannerisms at the podium. He seems to be a narcissist, maybe manic depressive idk. If I had to guess, I’d say he probably has a psychological disorder or two. Yeah, guys who win heismans and MVP aren’t good qbs. Good post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Kyle the nfl has been invaded by Allen qbs. and cam has been a bit cocky but I think people got overboard hating on him. Rodgers used to celebrate tds. Brady screams at his coaches. Big Ben gets rowdy in bathroom stalls. Jim Kelly was an awful person off the field before social media. But I swear people act like Cam is the devil. Haha that's true. 3 of them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Yeah, guys who win heismans and MVP aren’t good qbs. Good post! Lol, you missed where I said he isn’t what he once was. Yes, MVP type play would make the personality / behavior tolerable while it lasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: Yeah, there is something psychological there. Chronic need for affirmation and attention. It appears to border on narcissism. It is amazing how common this is, yet when an individual is in the limelight...it is so apparent. Fame sometimes aggravates a pre existing condition. Thankfully no one in a more important position than nfl qb suffers from this! its weird how some people think athletes should be more mature than politicians and people in more important jobs. I can’t believe the guy who plays a sport for a living where you need to have a ton of confidence might be a little cocky! 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: Lol, you missed where I said he isn’t what he once was. Yes, MVP type play would make the personality / behavior tolerable while it lasted. He was off to a great start last year. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00/gamelog/2018/ Edited November 9, 2019 by C.Biscuit97 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Thankfully no one in a more important position than nfl qb suffers from this! its weird how some people think athletes should be more mature than politicians and people in more important jobs. I can’t believe the guy who plays a sport for a living where you need to havelo a ton of confidence might be a little cocky! He was off to a great start last year. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00/gamelog/2018/ Athletes are human just like us, and are probably more prone to stressors than the average person. The pressure to perform and win, win, win! Being self confident and cocky are great defense mechanisms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Thankfully no one in a more important position than nfl qb suffers from this! its weird how some people think athletes should be more mature than politicians and people in more important jobs. I can’t believe the guy who plays a sport for a living where you need to have a ton of confidence might be a little cocky! He was off to a great start last year. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00/gamelog/2018/ It’s football, entertainment and not that important. Fans want to root for players they like, and the unimportance of football makes it easier to be picky. If I don’t like a player’s personality, I’m probably not a big fan of theirs. We don’t root for politicians, we vote for them. 1 minute ago, Rocket94 said: Athletes are human just like us, and are probably more prone to stressors than the average person. The pressure to perform and win, win, win! Being self confident and cocky are great defense mechanisms. Self confidence , even cockiness can be great for athletes. No need to look like 1970s Elton John or something at the presser, or have weird verbal interactions with the media. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: It’s football, entertainment and not that important. Fans want to root for players they like, and the unimportance of football makes it easier to be picky. If I don’t like a player’s personality, I’m probably not a big fan of theirs. We don’t root for politicians, we vote for them. Self confidence , even cockiness can be great for athletes. No need to look like 1970s Elton John or something at the presser, or have weird verbal interactions with the media. Well that kind of self expression is nothing new. There have always been "colorful" athletes. Some guys can pull it off without any criticism. The world is far more analytical and therapeutic today...everyone is under the microscope with more scrutiny today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 52 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He was souring on him during the SB run? Sounds like he had an agenda to never like Cam in the first place. He been hurt and tried to play through it. It’s stupid the amount of hate he gets. He was off to one of the best starts of his career last year before he got hurt. If healthy, he would be a huge upgrade to a few SB teams. Hell a Mitchell T for Cam trade would make a lot of sense. The more Allen plays, the less special he looks. Be a greAt fresh start for both players. AFL, why he is a clown? Because he dress weird? He does a lot for the community down there and has be a pretty model citizen in the nfl. Not trying to be overly PC but clown is a word that gets thrown around a lot. Antonio Brown is a clown. Cam is a warrior who plays through a lot of pain and had his body break down. ..just a matter of opinion my friend.....I prefer a player who draws attention to himself ON THE FIELD versus off of it......a well performing player does not need off the field or presser theatrics IMO for additional attention.....but respectful disagreement is what makes this place work for all bud..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..just a matter of opinion my friend.....I prefer a player who draws attention to himself ON THE FIELD versus off of it......a well performing player does not need off the field or presser theatrics IMO for additional attention.....but respectful disagreement is what makes this place work for all bud..... This is nothing new. We will continue to see players such as Newton. Sometimes a necessary part of the food chain to keep things in perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: This is nothing new. We will continue to see players such as Newton. Sometimes a necessary part of the food chain to keep things in perspective. ...damn you're good......and DEAD on............exactly why I like Allen's humility and respect for the game versus others (you know the names).... Edited November 9, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...damn you're good......and DEAD on......... As long as man will exist, we will have all kinds. In some cultures, the insane are celebrated creatures! lol! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...damn you're good......and DEAD on............exactly why I like Allen's humility and respect for the game versus others (you know the names).... I generally think Allen is a humble guy but he definitely has flexed after big plays. Rodgers did the title belt thing. Brady screams after tds. It’s a game. Have fun as long as you’re disrespecting someone. but you definitely are a JOhnny Unitas flattop, no facial hair, no excitement type of guy, huh? But I would be boring if we all liked the same thing. I think it would have been awesome to see old videos of Johnny U doing the electric slide after scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I generally think Allen is a humble guy but he definitely has flexed after big plays. Rodgers did the title belt thing. Brady screams after tds. It’s a game. Have fun as long as you’re disrespecting someone. but you definitely are a JOhnny Unitas flattop, no facial hair, no excitement type of guy, huh? But I would be boring if we all liked the same thing. I think it would have been awesome to see old videos of Johnny U doing the electric slide after scoring. I actually don't think Allen is particularly humble, and I'm fine with that. I would say he's as cocky as anyone ON the field. You can tell he does a lot of talking. You show me a great QB with zero swagger and I'll show you a 1960's sports encyclopedia. Even those guys were probably cocky S.O.B's. Just didn't hear about it sans social media and such. It requires a MASSIVE ego to play QB in the NFL. Edited November 9, 2019 by LSHMEAB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 53 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: It’s football, entertainment and not that important. Fans want to root for players they like, and the unimportance of football makes it easier to be picky. If I don’t like a player’s personality, I’m probably not a big fan of theirs. We don’t root for politicians, we vote for them. Self confidence , even cockiness can be great for athletes. No need to look like 1970s Elton John or something at the presser, or have weird verbal interactions with the media. I 100% agree Cam dresses like a weirdo. So does Brady and a bunch of athletes. And a bunch of politicians constantly are aggressive in their anger towards the media. I think it’s pathetic where we live in a world where we want a 30 year old football player to be more mature than a 70 year old politician. It’s really bizarre to me. but I respect your opinion. I think a healthy Cam an have a nice rebirth on another team. I guess we’ll see next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...damn you're good......and DEAD on............exactly why I like Allen's humility and respect for the game versus others (you know the names).... that damned Gardener Minshew!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I actually don't think Allen is particularly humble, and I'm fine with that. I would say he's as cocky as anyone ON the field. You can tell he does a lot of talking. You show me a great QB with zero swagger and I'll show you a 1960's sports encyclopedia. Even those guys were probably cocky S.O.B's. Just didn't hear about it sans social media and such. It requires a MASSIVE ego to play QB in the NFL. Agree a 100%. To be a great athlete, you have to be insanely cocky. Self doubt will kill you. I loved EJ but he cared himself with no confidence. I think a little more swagger might have made him a better player as crazy as it seems. 3 minutes ago, RiotAct said: that damned Gardener Minshew!!! I just wish Gardener would stop trying to show off and focus on the game! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Agree a 100%. To be a great athlete, you have to be insanely cocky. Self doubt will kill you. I loved EJ but he cared himself with no confidence. I think a little more swagger might have made him a better player as crazy as it seems. I just wish Gardener would stop trying to show off and focus on the game! I love Gardner Minshew for his odd, attention seeking wardrobe/persona, but I HATE Cam Newton for his odd, attention seeking wardrobe/persona. Makes sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I 100% agree Cam dresses like a weirdo. So does Brady and a bunch of athletes. And a bunch of politicians constantly are aggressive in their anger towards the media. I think it’s pathetic where we live in a world where we want a 30 year old football player to be more mature than a 70 year old politician. It’s really bizarre to me. but I respect your opinion. I think a healthy Cam an have a nice rebirth on another team. I guess we’ll see next year. Many politicians are jokes so I expect players to be more mature. And to be able to find happy ending without paying for it. 11 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I just wish Gardener would stop trying to show off and focus on the game! Hard to show off on bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Agree a 100%. To be a great athlete, you have to be insanely cocky. Self doubt will kill you. I loved EJ but he cared himself with no confidence. I think a little more swagger might have made him a better player as crazy as it seems. I think you need good genes personally. You need to play with confidence, lead by example, and constantly work hard on improving your craft. Kurt Warner, Russell Wilson, Peyton Manning, and Drew Brees come to mind if you want to look only at QB's. You don't need to be insanely cocky. You can be but it's not a necessity. Edited November 9, 2019 by Doc Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I think you need good genes personally. You need to play with confidence, lead by example, and constantly work hard on improving your craft. Kurt Warner, Russell Wilson, Peyton Manning, and Drew Brees come to mind if you want to look only at QB's. You don't need to be insanely cocky. You can be but it's not a necessity. Good post. Obviously there’s a fine line between cocky and confidence. In a weird way, I think this is the best thing for Cam. If the Bears get him, they are instantly a SB contender again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Good post. Obviously there’s a fine line between cocky and confidence. In a weird way, I think this is the best thing for Cam. If the Bears get him, they are instantly a SB contender again. If he comes back healthy and plays the way he did at the start of last year before the shoulder injury. It's a roll of the dice for whoever takes a chance on him. I personally think he stays in Carolina as Kyle Allen will prove not to be the answer. I've watched him struggle against above average (Titans, Jags) to superior defenses (49ers). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Many politicians are jokes so I expect players to be more mature. And to be able to find happy ending without paying for it. Hard to show off on bench. I agree with politicians being jokes but I’d say their jobs are supposed to be more important (much rather be an athlete). but I think people expect too much from athletes. Like they shouldn’t get mad when they get attacked on social media. Or they should be these emotionless robots. As long as athlete isn’t a bad person off the field, I generally don’t care what they say, wear, or do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 45 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I generally think Allen is a humble guy but he definitely has flexed after big plays. Rodgers did the title belt thing. Brady screams after tds. It’s a game. Have fun as long as you’re disrespecting someone. but you definitely are a JOhnny Unitas flattop, no facial hair, no excitement type of guy, huh? But I would be boring if we all liked the same thing. I think it would have been awesome to see old videos of Johnny U doing the electric slide after scoring. .any idea how many planes missed the Baltimore Washington International runway and taxied in on that "flat top"?....LMAO..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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