MiltonWaddams Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Hasn't Barkley held for place kickers in his career? Just to clarify, I don’t think Bojo is a great holder. What I do think is that they’re trying to get as many reps with one person holding the ball based on the fact that they haven’t made a move for another punter except the rumoured one to try and get the guy from Cleveland. Edited September 2, 2019 by MiltonWaddams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: I’m really starting to think they are valuing the holder aspect of the position as much as the kicker. Consistency with Hauschka may hold the key to this question. I had the same thought about why we haven't seen a signing yet. They may just hold their breath on Bojo until they can audition his replacement over the next couple of weeks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Just now, TroutDog said: Beane has specifically mentioned that this is a factor. It’s a big factor for Haushka. He mentioned it last year. I wonder what has been promised to him. But, they were trying to sign colquitt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lurker said: Athletes aren't that hard to find at this level. The mental (and instinctual) aspect has to be there as well. Treadwell and Jackson seem to be deficient in that regard, and probably Spence as well... The top height weight speed guys surely are. That's why all 3 of those guys were top 2 rounds picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Spence had a drug problem in college. I don’t think he’s mentally deficient and I believe he’s rehabbed on the drug thing. I've also read his best fit is as a 3-4 LB. Tampa revamped their D to that alignment this year and he still didn't click (apparently not so good against the run)... 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: But, they were trying to sign colquitt. Colquitt is supposed to be a very good holder, so their interest was justified... 5 minutes ago, Mat68 said: The top height weight speed guys surely are. That's why all 3 of those guys were top 2 rounds picks. Having a $100 body but a ten-cent head doesn't take you far in the NFL... Edited September 2, 2019 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Lurker said: I've also read his best fit is as a 3-4 LB. Tampa revamped their D to that alignment this year and he still didn't click (apparently not so good against the run)... Colquitt is supposed to be a very good holder, so their interest was justified... He wasn’t a run stopper in college either. He’s a pure pass rusher. I would rotate in on obvious passing downs. Like Gunner said, I would like to utilize Darryl Johnson but Spence has talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Do they like any of them to sign them over a guy they had for 6 months? Idk. I like bringing in underachieving talent over, try hard guys with alot less talent. It's the job of the coaches and locker room to get them to put forth the required effort. Buy low, low risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Tread well was so good in college 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I think Treadwell still has a chance. He fell out of favor in Minnesota and they have two top tier WR's as well as one of the better TE's in the league. The talent was evident at Ole Miss, but is the mindset and work ethic for the NFL there? Hopefully he makes the most of his next opportunity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Treadwell was never able to get separation from defenders. Not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) Keep in mind that workouts now don’t need to lead to signings now. If we (heaven forbid) lose a couple WRs to injury weeks from now and need to sign a guy off the street, you already have the workout done and know if you want treadwell or not (as an example) Edited September 2, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 33 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah, he held really well on that one attempt... he also had that one punt that went over 40 yards, remember that?!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Treadwell was never able to get separation from defenders. Not worth it. Everybody pounding the table for Williams, Treadwell has more upside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 36 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Want a Wr with size? There you go. He was a victim of a numbers game imo. Theilan, Diggs, and Rudolph are 75 % of the target share. Throw in Cook and now he really doesnt have a role. If hes motivated to earn a spot I would do it. Noah Spence? Him as a backup to Hughes? Makes alot of sense. As a rushed hes pretty talented as well. ...why not Yarbrough?.....really like this kid.......a grinder/baller IMO......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, TroutDog said: Beane has specifically mentioned that this is a factor. That was just GM speak. We know that they tried to bring Colquitt in and failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Anyone know who is faster, Treadwell or Duke Williams? They seem very similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 59 minutes ago, Doc said: But where are the punters? The Bills are keeping Bojorquez since he's so valuable as a source of information about the New England Patriots special teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Keep in mind that workouts now don’t need to lead to signings now. If we (heaven forbid) lose a couple WRs to injury weeks from now and need to sign a guy off the street, you already have the workout done and know if you want treadwell or not (as an example) Imo these guys are a notch above the work out, follow up week 2 or 3. I dont see them sitting unsigned week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, stosh64 said: Anyone know who is faster, Treadwell or Duke Williams? They seem very similar. That is my thinking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, stosh64 said: Anyone know who is faster, Treadwell or Duke Williams? They seem very similar. Treadwell ran a 4.65 at the combine, 4.63 at his pro day. They're very similar, indeed... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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