BADOLBILZ Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Man........all these visits.? I thought the Bills roster was SO DEEP that their only problem was trying to protect what they had from the rest of the league. Since 2014 or so I think this is the 4th preseason where there was major drama with numerous vigil threads among the fanbase about cutting players for fear of them doing well elsewhere.........and I'm not including last year because it was only Rod Streater and maybe a couple others..........not like the 5-6 players that people were sweating the loss of this year. The reality is that the Bills don't treat the 53 man roster the way fans assume they will................they don't just keep the best 53.......it's more like they keep the top 47 or so and the rest they keep for a variety of reasons.......they keep tradeable assets(see the 10th OL)........they keep veterans who they have gone to battle with or who they talked off of the couch or a ST guy they think they NEED out of fear that the ST's will be sloppy in the first couple weeks. The first two weeks of the season you should not need 53 to field a healthy active roster...........so expect a lot of wheeling and maybe some dealing with those inactive spots every year.......this is the new norm. I love the idea of bringing in some of these big talent guys that didn't fit elsewhere...........nothing may come of it but at least it's fun to project a guy like Jones or Spence playing to their perceived potential in this defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Man........all these visits.? I thought the Bills roster was SO DEEP that their only problem was trying to protect what they had from the rest of the league. Since 2014 or so I think this is the 4th preseason where there was major drama with numerous vigil threads among the fanbase about cutting players for fear of them doing well elsewhere.........and I'm not including last year because it was only Rod Streater and maybe a couple others..........not like the 5-6 players that people were sweating the loss of this year. The reality is that the Bills don't treat the 53 man roster the way fans assume they will................they don't just keep the best 53.......it's more like they keep the top 47 or so and the rest they keep for a variety of reasons.......they keep tradeable assets(see the 10th OL)........they keep veterans who they have gone to battle with or who they talked off of the couch or a ST guy they think they NEED out of fear that the ST's will be sloppy in the first couple weeks. The first two weeks of the season you should not need 53 to field a healthy active roster...........so expect a lot of wheeling and maybe some dealing with those inactive spots every year.......this is the new norm. I love the idea of bringing in some of these big talent guys that didn't fit elsewhere...........nothing may come of it but at least it's fun to project a guy like Jones or Spence playing to their perceived potential in this defense. I think this sums it up nicely. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...why not Yarbrough?.....really like this kid.......a grinder/baller IMO......... I thought they might have found something with Yarbrough a couple seasons ago. It's been a great story.......this dude was on a practice squad in the CFL in 2016...........I really thought that he must be improving by leaps and bounds if he went from not being CFL-worthy to what he looked like in 2017...........but he just hasn't improved from there.....it's all the same.......serviceable but he gets engulfed too much and can't get off blocks quick enough to make plays. I hope he hangs around on the PS because you know that he can give you some capable snaps and if he does I figure he will get back on the 53 at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Man........all these visits.? I thought the Bills roster was SO DEEP that their only problem was trying to protect what they had from the rest of the league. You are insufferable 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: Treadwell is a bust. Yeah, lots that way. I guess the only thing is no one could have possibly seen Theilen emerging like he did. He’s at least a different skill set than most of our guys so I like at least kicking the tires on high picks. Sometimes a change of scenery is good and our receivers still aren’t great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Don't understand what's going on with Noah Spence. I thought he was healthy and having a good preseason. With a new coaching staff switching to 3/4D, pressure in the middle with Suh and Vita, and JPP out for a bunch of games his position should have been secure. I gather he has issues defending the run but he can rush the passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) Who do y’all think we would cut to bring in Treadwell or Spence? I agree looks to be Neal if we being in Jones. I like Treadwell I think he got behind two great players in Diggs/Thielen and reading that article that was posted he seems like a hard worker/“process” the player Edited September 2, 2019 by ChanticleerBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 24 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I thought they might have found something with Yarbrough a couple seasons ago. It's been a great story.......this dude was on a practice squad in the CFL in 2016...........I really thought that he must be improving by leaps and bounds if he went from not being CFL-worthy to what he looked like in 2017...........but he just hasn't improved from there.....it's all the same.......serviceable but he gets engulfed too much and can't get off blocks quick enough to make plays. I hope he hangs around on the PS because you know that he can give you some capable snaps and if he does I figure he will get back on the 53 at some point. ....probably just me (SHOCKING I know), but I like Eddie's moxy and grit.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: Who do y’all think we would cut to bring in Treadwell or Spence? I agree looks to be Neal if we being in Jones. I like Treadwell I think he got behind two great players in Diggs/Thielen and reading that article that was posted he seems like a hard worker/“process” the player Neal is one option...........Coleman and/or MorAx are easy to envision being cut in favor of Jones as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Also, I believe Spence got beat out by an undrafted UB guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 48 minutes ago, TigerJ said: The Bills are keeping Bojorquez since he's so valuable as a source of information about the New England Patriots special teams. Last year called... 44 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Man........all these visits.? I thought the Bills roster was SO DEEP that their only problem was trying to protect what they had from the rest of the league. Since 2014 or so I think this is the 4th preseason where there was major drama with numerous vigil threads among the fanbase about cutting players for fear of them doing well elsewhere.........and I'm not including last year because it was only Rod Streater and maybe a couple others..........not like the 5-6 players that people were sweating the loss of this year. The reality is that the Bills don't treat the 53 man roster the way fans assume they will................they don't just keep the best 53.......it's more like they keep the top 47 or so and the rest they keep for a variety of reasons.......they keep tradeable assets(see the 10th OL)........they keep veterans who they have gone to battle with or who they talked off of the couch or a ST guy they think they NEED out of fear that the ST's will be sloppy in the first couple weeks. The first two weeks of the season you should not need 53 to field a healthy active roster...........so expect a lot of wheeling and maybe some dealing with those inactive spots every year.......this is the new norm. I love the idea of bringing in some of these big talent guys that didn't fit elsewhere...........nothing may come of it but at least it's fun to project a guy like Jones or Spence playing to their perceived potential in this defense. Yes because the 50th-53rd best players on every team are stellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Mueller Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 48 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Man........all these visits.? I thought the Bills roster was SO DEEP that their only problem was trying to protect what they had from the rest of the league. Since 2014 or so I think this is the 4th preseason where there was major drama with numerous vigil threads among the fanbase about cutting players for fear of them doing well elsewhere.........and I'm not including last year because it was only Rod Streater and maybe a couple others..........not like the 5-6 players that people were sweating the loss of this year. The reality is that the Bills don't treat the 53 man roster the way fans assume they will................they don't just keep the best 53.......it's more like they keep the top 47 or so and the rest they keep for a variety of reasons.......they keep tradeable assets(see the 10th OL)........they keep veterans who they have gone to battle with or who they talked off of the couch or a ST guy they think they NEED out of fear that the ST's will be sloppy in the first couple weeks. The first two weeks of the season you should not need 53 to field a healthy active roster...........so expect a lot of wheeling and maybe some dealing with those inactive spots every year.......this is the new norm. I love the idea of bringing in some of these big talent guys that didn't fit elsewhere...........nothing may come of it but at least it's fun to project a guy like Jones or Spence playing to their perceived potential in this defense. This is one of the main reasons that I respect this GM and his team so much... they never stop trying to get better. We all breathe a sign of relief after cut-down day... but they just get back at it. I knew that they would go after Colquitt... because it was the right thing... and they generally do the right thing. I'm sure they're on their second target at punter today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 32 minutes ago, HappyDays said: You are insufferable He won’t be happy until Bills bring Mike Gillislee in for a tryout. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Don't understand what's going on with Noah Spence. I thought he was healthy and having a good preseason. With a new coaching staff switching to 3/4D, pressure in the middle with Suh and Vita, and JPP out for a bunch of games his position should have been secure. I gather he has issues defending the run but he can rush the passer. The Tampa D has been a dumpster fire. I believe he has had 3 d Co Ordinators in each of his first 3 years. I could see a Hughes type turnaround. Start off as a pass rush specialist and go from there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Yes because the 50th-53rd best players on every team are stellar. That was kinda Badol's point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Yeah, lots that way. I guess the only thing is no one could have possibly seen Theilen emerging like he did. He’s at least a different skill set than most of our guys so I like at least kicking the tires on high picks. Sometimes a change of scenery is good and our receivers still aren’t great. Good call! Trade for Thielen!! Only great reciever we have so far is Beasley, hopefully Brown can take that next step as well as Foster. PS. I know you weren't advocating a Thielen trade but for Treadwell, I'm just an @$$clown as people would say...?. Still nothing is as honorable as being called A idiot lol Edited September 2, 2019 by Sherlock Holmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 36 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....probably just me (SHOCKING I know), but I like Eddie's moxy and grit.............. I am with ya on Eddie. plenty of hustle. Probably mentored by Hughes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: That was kinda Badol's point. Then it was a non-point. No team has All-Pros at every position. And no Bills fan was claiming that the Bills have players at every unit that they're worried about losing. Edited September 2, 2019 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Just now, Doc said: Then it was a non-point. No team has All-Pros at every position. And no Bills fan was claiming that the Bills have players at every position that they're worried about losing. His point was fans fixate about the last 5 or 6 guys that do or don't make it and the reality is that after the first 47 there are no "must haves" for teams and they quite often cycle through guys in those 48-53 spots in the early weeks of the season and Special Teams play a major part. Yet every year we have the same threads worrying about losing a 6th receiver or a 4th back when the reality is the guys who make those spots on cut down day are still very much on the bubble. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: His point was fans fixate about the last 5 or 6 guys that do or don't make it and the reality is that after the first 47 there are no "must haves" for teams and they quite often cycle through guys in those 48-53 spots in the early weeks of the season and Special Teams play a major part. Yet every year we have the same threads worrying about losing a 6th receiver or a 4th back when the reality is the guys who make those spots on cut down day are still very much on the bubble. Fans fixate on certain units because it appears there is a lot of talent there. But the guys they brought in appear to be PS candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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