Stank_Nasty Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 spoiled fan base that's had 2 decades of great qb play now and the minute things get dicey they turn on the team..... gutless. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: I'm a little sick of all the talking heads and current / ex-football players saying the Colts' fans were wrong to "Boo" Andrew Luck. Sure the guy has been thrown around like a rag doll for the last 6 years, but you have to dig deeper into one issue that has been talked about very little: MONEY First, we can all agree that Jim Irsay is of questionable integrity. Had a few run-ins with the law, TANKED the year to get Luck, and is overall somewhat slimy. If Luck was having this pain for the last few years and recently had problems with his calf muscle and ankle, why did it become a "career ending" problem just two weeks before the start of the season. MONEY Second, take a look at what Luck said on his interview. Paraphrasing here but he said he's had discussions with Chris Ballard over the summer about his pain, physical condition, etc. Why do you think he held off on making this announcement until two weeks before the season? MONEY Third, when Irsay found out about Luck's condition and discussions with Ballard, I'll bet Irsay brought Luck into his office and said "Can you hold off for another month or two? Let's wait and see? I'll make it worth your while." Meanwhile, the Colts were able to renew season tickets and generate revenue based on the assumption (by those same Booing fans) that Luck was all set to play this year. Fourth, fast forward to the day after his retirement when we hear in passing that Irsay will not seek repayment of the $21 million bonus!!! What?? Something stinks in this whole thing. Irsay, the delays in announcing retirement, and the "Go ahead and keep $21 million". I don't feel bad for Luck at all. Ironworkers, roofers, police officers, etc. all suffer through pain and discomfort and very rarely get a $21 million dollar golden parachute on retirement. The dirt will come out soon enough...and the Fans will really start to Boo. If he had made the announcement earlier, like maybe before TC started would he have still gotten all that money? Because if not, then this kinda makes sense. I can also see the tickets sales getting done first before the announcement. It does seem like weird/bad timing for him to do that though, I'll definitely give ya that. Edited August 28, 2019 by Patrick_Duffy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) Fergy, after that dissertation, all I have running through my mind is the O’Jays. Edited August 28, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: If he had made the announcement earlier, like maybe before TC started would he have still gotten all that money? Because if not, then this kinda makes sense. I can also see the tickets sales getting done first before the announcement. It does seem like weird/bad timing for him to do that though, I'll definitely give ya that. Yeah, that’s the one part of the booing that players and sports media don’t understand. The Colts just went from playoff contender to a bottom feeder. I wouldn’t be happy if I spent money on season tickets. The dude just says see ya, halfway through preseason. Luck is set for life, and should be able to make whatever choice is best for him, but I do somewhat understand the frustration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: If he had made the announcement earlier, like maybe before TC started would he have still gotten all that money? Because if not, then this kinda makes sense. I can also see the tickets sales getting done first before the announcement. It does seem like weird/bad timing for him to do that though, I'll definitely give ya that. This. And if I was a Colts’ season ticket holder, listening to Aaron Rodgers and Colin Cowturd talk down to me for booing, I’d ask for an apology when the truth comes out. Yeah, $4000 isn’t much money compared to Aaron’s 100 million, but it’s a big investment for Average Joe. Luck was complicit in Irsay’s profit motive...it will get leaked in the next two weeks. $21 million to delay his announcement. Book it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Read paragraph two of the post immediately preceding yours above. I’m sorry, and no offense intended, but I need to hear it from the horse’s mouth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said: This. And if I was a Colts’ season ticket holder, listening to Aaron Rodgers and Colin Cowturd talk down to me for booing, I’d ask for an apology when the truth comes out. Yeah, $4000 isn’t much money compared to Aaron’s 100 million, but it’s a big investment for Average Joe. Luck was complicit in Irsay’s profit motive...it will get leaked in the next two weeks. $21 million to delay his announcement. Book it. I love how paying fans are treated as if they no right to boo. Fans can boo whoever they want within reason. Do a bunch of drunk middle aged men really hurt players feelings that bad? If I’m Luck I have 21 million reasons not to care who’s booing me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said: I'm a little sick of all the talking heads and current / ex-football players saying the Colts' fans were wrong to "Boo" Andrew Luck. Sure the guy has been thrown around like a rag doll for the last 6 years, but you have to dig deeper into one issue that has been talked about very little: MONEY First, we can all agree that Jim Irsay is of questionable integrity. Had a few run-ins with the law, TANKED the year to get Luck, and is overall somewhat slimy. If Luck was having this pain for the last few years and recently had problems with his calf muscle and ankle, why did it become a "career ending" problem just two weeks before the start of the season. MONEY Second, take a look at what Luck said on his interview. Paraphrasing here but he said he's had discussions with Chris Ballard over the summer about his pain, physical condition, etc. Why do you think he held off on making this announcement until two weeks before the season? MONEY Third, when Irsay found out about Luck's condition and discussions with Ballard, I'll bet Irsay brought Luck into his office and said "Can you hold off for another month or two? Let's wait and see? I'll make it worth your while." Meanwhile, the Colts were able to renew season tickets and generate revenue based on the assumption (by those same Booing fans) that Luck was all set to play this year. Fourth, fast forward to the day after his retirement when we hear in passing that Irsay will not seek repayment of the $21 million bonus!!! What?? Something stinks in this whole thing. Irsay, the delays in announcing retirement, and the "Go ahead and keep $21 million". I don't feel bad for Luck at all. Ironworkers, roofers, police officers, etc. all suffer through pain and discomfort and very rarely get a $21 million dollar golden parachute on retirement. The dirt will come out soon enough...and the Fans will really start to Boo. Sometimes enough is enough and there isn't as much planning involved as you think. It might just be , I've had it. Pissing blood, concussions, surgeries and now this and I'm only 29. I don't need this, no matter how good I am. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 ...has to be frustrating as hell to sit for a year, rehab like I believe he did and still come back less than 100% for 2019 camp......and now the purported high ankle sprain.....Grigson was probably in the top 5 or 10 as all-time GM failures....Luck took a beating because of this fraud's OL staff ineptitude and then had the cowardly bawls to blame the Luck extension as to why he couldn't shore up personnel deficiencies....why the 'eff would the Browns then hire him as a consultant?...LMAO.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 42 minutes ago, Nervous Guy said: Except if you're Tom ***** Brady!!!! Sorry I didn't afford you a point with my sad face. But this is truly sad! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, klos63 said: Sometimes enough is enough and there isn't as much planning involved as you think. It might just be , I've had it. Pissing blood, concussions, surgeries and now this and I'm only 29. I don't need this, no matter how good I am. Exactly, I don’t think either Luck or the fans are bad guys in this situation. Everyone wants to take a side. Fans reacted how you’d expect, and Luck did what’s best for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: spoiled fan base that's had 2 decades of great qb play now and the minute things get dicey they turn on the team..... gutless. If you were a fan of that team how much of an increase in ticket prices would cause you to look for another team to root for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: I’m sorry, and no offense intended, but I need to hear it from the horse’s mouth. I see what you did there... Horse's mouth....Colts.... 1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said: If you were a fan of that team how much of an increase in ticket prices would cause you to look for another team to root for? Wow. @Gugny asked the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 i don't know if money was/is at the root of his retirement but i suspect the fans that booed him had the same initial reaction i had when i learned of it... two weeks before the season starts?? are you kidding me, what a gut punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said: I'm a little sick of all the talking heads and current / ex-football players saying the Colts' fans were wrong to "Boo" Andrew Luck. Sure the guy has been thrown around like a rag doll for the last 6 years, but you have to dig deeper into one issue that has been talked about very little: MONEY First, we can all agree that Jim Irsay is of questionable integrity. Had a few run-ins with the law, TANKED the year to get Luck, and is overall somewhat slimy. If Luck was having this pain for the last few years and recently had problems with his calf muscle and ankle, why did it become a "career ending" problem just two weeks before the start of the season. MONEY Second, take a look at what Luck said on his interview. Paraphrasing here but he said he's had discussions with Chris Ballard over the summer about his pain, physical condition, etc. Why do you think he held off on making this announcement until two weeks before the season? MONEY Third, when Irsay found out about Luck's condition and discussions with Ballard, I'll bet Irsay brought Luck into his office and said "Can you hold off for another month or two? Let's wait and see? I'll make it worth your while." Meanwhile, the Colts were able to renew season tickets and generate revenue based on the assumption (by those same Booing fans) that Luck was all set to play this year. Fourth, fast forward to the day after his retirement when we hear in passing that Irsay will not seek repayment of the $21 million bonus!!! What?? Something stinks in this whole thing. Irsay, the delays in announcing retirement, and the "Go ahead and keep $21 million". I don't feel bad for Luck at all. Ironworkers, roofers, police officers, etc. all suffer through pain and discomfort and very rarely get a $21 million dollar golden parachute on retirement. The dirt will come out soon enough...and the Fans will really start to Boo. Yeah your probably right. So so is the point entertainment industries need to admit their profit motive, or that its morally corrupt (even though it’s the reality of the human race) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: This. And if I was a Colts’ season ticket holder, listening to Aaron Rodgers and Colin Cowturd talk down to me for booing, I’d ask for an apology when the truth comes out. Yeah, $4000 isn’t much money compared to Aaron’s 100 million, but it’s a big investment for Average Joe. Luck was complicit in Irsay’s profit motive...it will get leaked in the next two weeks. $21 million to delay his announcement. Book it. 26 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Yeah, that’s the one part of the booing that players and sports media don’t understand. The Colts just went from playoff contender to a bottom feeder. I wouldn’t be happy if I spent money on season tickets. The dude just says see ya, halfway through preseason. Luck is set for life, and should be able to make whatever choice is best for him, but I do somewhat understand the frustration. I have to agree if I was a season ticket holder I would definitely be upset also. Just the timing of this does kinda seem like a slap in the face of the ticket holders. A lot of money is spend on those tics and to have this happen now right before the season, I can certainly understand their frustration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Foxx said: i don't know if money was/is at the root of his retirement but i suspect the fans that booed him had the same initial reaction i had when i learned of it... two weeks before the season starts?? are you kidding me, what a gut punch. That gut punch will turn into a haymaker when the Fans find out Luck was asked to delay his announcement. As @klos63 said above...sometimes enough is enough. Luck had every opportunity to announce this “change of heart” in April or May. Nooooo, in exchange for $21 million, he decided to “think about it” for three months. Ka-Ching $$ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 The fans booed him because they were drunk at a preseason game. Honestly this whole story got out of hand. It might have been a few loud fans. Yeah there are a few a-holes in a large crowd of drunk people. Who really cares 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: That gut punch will turn into a haymaker when the Fans find out Luck was asked to delay his announcement. As @klos63 said above...sometimes enough is enough. Luck had every opportunity to announce this “change of heart” in April or May. Nooooo, in exchange for $21 million, he decided to “think about it” for three months. Ka-Ching $$ Was Goodell in on this? I think he must have been. Thank god for Schefter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: That gut punch will turn into a haymaker when the Fans find out Luck was asked to delay his announcement. As @klos63 said above...sometimes enough is enough. Luck had every opportunity to announce this “change of heart” in April or May. Nooooo, in exchange for $21 million, he decided to “think about it” for three months. Ka-Ching $$ So, he was seen rehabbing on the sidelines days before the announcement just for appearances? I think the guy just grew frustrated with his lack of progress and quit. Not the best timing and the fans had a right to boo him as many are more emotionally invested in the team than the players are. Edited August 28, 2019 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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