Retired FB LeRon McClain Pleads for Help, "I have to get my head checked."

[ChevyVanMiller]

For those criticizing Andrew Luck for walking away early. Too many guys have long-tern CTE issues.

 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/retired-nfl-fullback-leron-mcclain-pleads-for-help-i-have-to-get-my-head-checked/ar-AAGjpTZ?ocid=ientp

[Reed83HOF]

This should honestly be a bigger deal out there than it is. Current players and former players are definitely having issues. Back in the day before social media, it wasn't seen and rarely talked about; however with twitter, instagram, TMZ etc it is kinda hard to ignore this and not see it. This is a really big issue for not only the game, but for these affected players and their families. It's really sad to see and makes me question how I feel as a fan...

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

This should honestly be a bigger deal out there than it is. Current players and former players are definitely having issues. Back in the day before social media, it wasn't seen and rarely talked about; however with twitter, instagram, TMZ etc it is kinda hard to ignore this and not see it. This is a really big issue for not only the game, but for these affected players and their families. It's really sad to see and makes me question how I feel as a fan...

 

Yeah...they laid their bodies on the line for our entertainment and put people in the seats for the owners....

Give them the help they need after their bodies don't work as well anymore.  Hell, even the Egyptians gave the workers who built the pyramid free beer at the end of the day.

[JohnC]

12 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

For those criticizing Andrew Luck for walking away early. Too many guys have long-tern CTE issues.

 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/retired-nfl-fullback-leron-mcclain-pleads-for-help-i-have-to-get-my-head-checked/ar-AAGjpTZ?ocid=ientp

What's really scary and sad about players who have these types of health issues related to the game is that there isn't much of a medical solution to help these plagued players. As you noted Andrew Luck was wise walking away from the game he love because of the series of injuries he sustained in his relatively short career. CTE issues get a lot of attention associated with playing the game, and it should. But what should also get a lot of attention is how permanently battered and scarred these players are for life when their careers are over with. 

[MAJBobby]

Their Choice to play. And we’re justly Compensated. They knew what they were signing up for. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, JohnC said:

What's really scary and sad about players who have these types of health issues related to the game is that there isn't much of a medical solution to help these plagued players. As you noted Andrew Luck was wise walking away from the game he love because of the series of injuries he sustained in his relatively short career. CTE issues get a lot of attention associated with playing the game, and it should. But what should also get a lot of attention is how permanently battered and scarred these players are for life when their careers are over with. 

 

I get the desire to be sympathetic with these guys. But we're not talking about coal miners or steel workers injured on the job here.

We're talking about guys who voluntarily put their bodies out there to be wrecked in exchange for a LARGE paycheck.

 

[RoyBatty is alive]

Very sad.

 

I dont think the NFL game as we currently know it wil be around in 20 years, wont be close.  It will be  like watching the pro bowls.  Sooner than that States are going to start outlawing high school football, former college players will start suing schools.  

Just now, MAJBobby said:

Their Choice to play. And we’re justly Compensated. They knew what they were signing up for. 

 

Harsh but true.  One might be able to say in years past the NFL hide it for years but current players are more than aware of the real risks.

1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

I get the desire to be sympathetic with these guys. But we're not talking about coal miners or steel workers injured on the job here.

We're talking about guys who voluntarily put their bodies out there to be wrecked in exchange for a LARGE paycheck.

 

My father worked at Bethlehem Steel for 30 years, in the blast furnace, got lung cancer with all the iron ore and crap in the air.  There was no glorification of him working in 100 degree heat and outrageous compensation.

[JohnC]

2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

I get the desire to be sympathetic with these guys. But we're not talking about coal miners or steel workers injured on the job here.

We're talking about guys who voluntarily put their bodies out there to be wrecked in exchange for a LARGE paycheck.

 

Considering how brief most of their careers are and the lasting injuries from it the money they received isn't as overwhelming as many believe it to be. Coal miners and steel workers also choose to do what they do and they also get injured on the job. When they do they have health benefits for the rest of their lives. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, JohnC said:

Considering how brief most of their careers are and the lasting injuries from it the money they received isn't as overwhelming as many believe it to be. Coal miners and steel workers also choose to do what they do and they also get injured on the job. When they do they have health benefits for the rest of their lives. 

 

Who walks into football not knowing the risks involved?

And also, the money's FAR more overwhelming than the average lifetime earnings of a coal miner.

 

[Seasons1992]

12 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Hell, even the Egyptians gave the workers who built the pyramid free beer at the end of the day.

 

Yeah, but that *&#t was warm........

 

Not to make light of the CTE situation. It's real and it's not going away. I still am dumbfounded that NFL players don't have FULL lifetime healthcare. It's a crime.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, JohnC said:

Considering how brief most of their careers are and the lasting injuries from it the money they received isn't as overwhelming as many believe it to be. Coal miners and steel workers also choose to do what they do and they also get injured on the job. When they do they have health benefits for the rest of their lives. 

 

So doesnt these players.

 

Sorry I have ZERO Sympathy.  The CHOSE this life.  Could have ALWAYS made a different Carrer Choice right?

[Freddie's Dead]

I remember when Timm Rosenbach admitted in an interview that he was scared dropping back because he didn't know which OL was going to give a free shot to a DL and end his career or his life.  Tom Jackson stopped just short of questioning his manhood, but it was clear he didn't respect Rosenbach at all for admitting it.  He said clearly, "You keep that to yourself".  Good for Luck , Barry Sanders, and anyone else who has enough manhood to walk away with their health instead of staying for just a few more Benjamins.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Seasons1992 said:

 

Yeah, but that *&#t was warm........

 

Not to make light of the CTE situation. It's real and it's not going away. I still am dumbfounded that NFL players don't have FULL lifetime healthcare. It's a crime.

Why?

 

  Veterans DONT have full lifetime Healthcare why should football players?

[RoyBatty is alive]

8 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Considering how brief most of their careers are and the lasting injuries from it the money they received isn't as overwhelming as many believe it to be. Coal miners and steel workers also choose to do what they do and they also get injured on the job. When they do they have health benefits for the rest of their lives. 

 

 3 years vested in the NFL the benefits blow away what my father got or a coal miner would get. plus they can for the next 50 years GET ANOTHER JOB.  

 

https://www.playsmartplaysafe.com/resource/nfl-benefits/

Edited August 26, 2019 by RoyBatty is alive

[Seasons1992]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

Why?

 

  Veterans DONT have full lifetime Healthcare why should football players?

 

Good sir, Veterans SHOULD have full lifetime healthcare as well. I would never argue against that.

[GoBills808]

7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Their Choice to play. And we’re justly Compensated. They knew what they were signing up for. 

 

The NFLPA sucessfully sued the league for suppressing evidence of brain damage caused by pro football, so no; they actually didn't know what they were signing up for.

[Laughing Coffin]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Why?

 

  Veterans DONT have full lifetime Healthcare why should football players?

 

Veterans should too.  Just because there's one gross injustice doesn't mean that it should be the standard for all other similar circumstances

[Royale with Cheese]

3 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said:

 

Yeah, but that *&#t was warm........

 

Not to make light of the CTE situation. It's real and it's not going away. I still am dumbfounded that NFL players don't have FULL lifetime healthcare. It's a crime.

 

Do NFL players receive any sort of retirement or benefits after they retire?  

If they don't...yeah it's a crime.  

[billsfan1959]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

 

So doesnt these players.

 

Sorry I have ZERO Sympathy.  The CHOSE this life.  Could have ALWAYS made a different Carrer Choice right?

I think NFL players of past generations really had no idea of the possible CTE issues. However, there isn't a player on the field today (or even over the last 10 years or so) that is not aware of the potential long term health issues - and not just CTE.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

 

The NFLPA sucessfully sued the league for suppressing evidence of brain damage caused by pro football, so no; they actually didn't know what they were signing up for.

Sure so McClain that started playing NFL in 2007 didnt know that Headblows are not good for you?  Really THAT is what you are going with

[Royale with Cheese]

3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Why?

 

  Veterans DONT have full lifetime Healthcare why should football players?

 

They both should.  

 

The NFL is a private company.  It's up to them to do something.  This isn't a government policy situation.  

[RoyBatty is alive]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Do NFL players receive any sort of retirement or benefits after they retire?  

If they don't...yeah it's a crime.  

https://www.playsmartplaysafe.com/resource/nfl-benefits/

[JohnC]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

So doesnt these players.

 

Sorry I have ZERO Sympathy.  The CHOSE this life.  Could have ALWAYS made a different Carrer Choice right?

Yes, they did choose their profession. But the league for quite a while did not live up to their moral obligation to provide medical care. The retired players had to fight for years to get adequate health coverage and care when their careers are over. If a steel worker, fire worker, coal worker, soldier, policeman got hurt on the job they were taken care of. Until very recently that wasn't the case. 

[GoBills808]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

Sure so McClain that started playing NFL in 2007 didnt know that Headblows are not good for you?  Really THAT is what you are going with

 

Lawsuit was settled in 2017. Damages awarded immediately after settlement.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Laughing Coffin said:

 

Veterans should too.  Just because there's one gross injustice doesn't mean that it should be the standard for all other similar circumstances

 

Just pointing it out there, ONE Voluntary Career vs ANOTHER.  

 

All these football players Saying I didnt know I was going to be in pain for life, I didnt know I would have long term effects from the sport are JUST as disingenuous as the Veterans that say I didn't Know I would have to fight a War

Just now, JohnC said:

Yes, they did choose their profession. But the league for quite a while did not live up to their moral obligation to provide medical care. The retired players had to fight for years to get adequate health coverage and care when their careers are over. If a steel worker, fire worker, coal worker, soldier, policeman got hurt on the job they were taken care of. Until very recently that wasn't the case. 

 

Maybe until recently they should BLAME their Union?

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Sure so McClain that started playing NFL in 2007 didnt know that Headblows are not good for you?  Really THAT is what you are going with

 

Not to this point they didn't.  CTE research really came into fruition just in the last 7 or so years.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

 

Lawsuit was settled in 2017. Damages awarded immediately after settlement.

OK Cool.  so Now tell m again how In 2007 McClain is SUCH an idiot that h didnt know there would be long term effects from shots to the head.  So he never heard a punch drunk Boxer in his life?

[GoBills808]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Not to this point they didn't.  CTE research really came into fruition just in the last 7 or so years.

 

It's still not well understood. People claiming NFL players should have somehow 'known the risks'...lol the doctors and researchers studying TBI and related injuries don't even understand it yet.

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Just pointing it out there, ONE Voluntary Career vs ANOTHER.  

 

All these football players Saying I didnt know I was going to be in pain for life, I didnt know I would have long term effects from the sport are JUST as disingenuous as the Veterans that say I didn't Know I would have to fight a War

 

Maybe until recently they should BLAME their Union?

 

No....even doctors didn't know the extent.  They use to do the smelling salt test to see if a guy was good to go back on the field.  There wasn't a concussion protocol.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Not to this point they didn't.  CTE research really came into fruition just in the last 7 or so years.

 

And you KNOW it has NOTHING to do with Concussions right?    Yeah there was NEVER reports of Football players struggling with Health EVER until 7 years ago.

Just now, GoBills808 said:

 

It's still not well understood. People claiming NFL players should have somehow 'known the risks'...lol the doctors and researchers studying TBI and related injuries don't even understand it yet.

Yeah Considering it is FOUND IN PEOPLE that have NEVER played a contact sport in their Life, should those people get a settlement?

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

OK Cool.  so Now tell m again how In 2007 McClain is SUCH an idiot that h didnt know there would be long term effects from shots to the head.  So he never heard a punch drunk Boxer in his life?

 

Well I guess every medical doctor was an idiot too.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Well I guess every medical doctor was an idiot too.

 

Keep trying.  I Do NOT have ANY sympathy.  And I wont.

 

So Kelso just wore his helmet for a Fashion Statement?

Edited August 26, 2019 by MAJBobby

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

 

And you KNOW it has NOTHING to do with Concussions right?    Yeah there was NEVER reports of Football players struggling with Health EVER until 7 years ago.

Yeah Considering it is FOUND IN PEOPLE that have NEVER played a contact sport in their Life, should those people get a settlement?

 

If their employer hid the likelihood that their occupation would produce it, probably.

[aristocrat]

Have they proven cte is caused by head trauma yet?

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

 

And you KNOW it has NOTHING to do with Concussions right?    Yeah there was NEVER reports of Football players struggling with Health EVER until 7 years ago.

 

 

what is so hard for you to understand?  They didn't know to this extent, now they got more research and now they know.  

 

Here's a Doctors statement that talks about their findings.

 

July 2017

By this point, the link between football and CTE is well-known and widely accepted in the scientific community. Further cementing the link, BU's CTE Center expands on its 2012 and 2014 work (the latter of which found CTE in 76 of 79 studied brains), announcing the results of a study of 202 deceased football players' brains. Of the 111 brains of former NFL players that were examined, researchers find evidence of CTE in 110. The study looks at the brains of players as young as 23 and as old as 89 and includes players of all positions. The study also suggests that a longer football career can lead to more severe cases of CTE, as brains of deceased men who stopped playing had less severe cases than those who played professionally. Authors of the study acknowledge the same selection bias, as the brains studied were donated by players for neurological research.

"This not a population-based sample and these numbers aren't the prevelance of this disease in the general population of football players," co-author of the study Dr. Jesse Mez told Sports Illustrated. "What this study does establish well is that there is likely a connection between football and CTE." 

[MAJBobby]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

 

If their employer hid the likelihood that their occupation would produce it, probably.

 

So I should SUE the US Government right?  My Head hurts....  Who knew FIGHTING Wars and taking Head Shots would cause this.  THEY HID IT FROM ME

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Keep trying.  I Do NOT have ANY sympathy.  And I wont.

 

So Kelso just wore his helmet for a Fashion Statement?

 

Typically MAJBobby,

 

 

BLAH BLAH BLAH I've made up my mind.

 

[RoyBatty is alive]

June 2007 - The NFL holds a medical conference on concussions.

August 14, 2007 - The NFL formalizes new concussion guidelines which include a telephone hotline to report when a player is being forced to play contrary to medical advice.

 

Le Ron started playing in NFL 2007, the risks were known.  Even when i was a kid everyone knew like a boxer you can end up with serious mental issues, the entire stereotype of the dumb football player.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

 

what is so hard for you to understand?  They didn't know to this extent, now they got more research and now they know.  

 

Here's a Doctors statement that talks about their findings.

 

July 2017

By this point, the link between football and CTE is well-known and widely accepted in the scientific community. Further cementing the link, BU's CTE Center expands on its 2012 and 2014 work (the latter of which found CTE in 76 of 79 studied brains), announcing the results of a study of 202 deceased football players' brains. Of the 111 brains of former NFL players that were examined, researchers find evidence of CTE in 110. The study looks at the brains of players as young as 23 and as old as 89 and includes players of all positions. The study also suggests that a longer football career can lead to more severe cases of CTE, as brains of deceased men who stopped playing had less severe cases than those who played professionally. Authors of the study acknowledge the same selection bias, as the brains studied were donated by players for neurological research.

"This not a population-based sample and these numbers aren't the prevelance of this disease in the general population of football players," co-author of the study Dr. Jesse Mez told Sports Illustrated. "What this study does establish well is that there is likely a connection between football and CTE." 

 

Cool here is a RECENT one..  LET me HIGHLIGHT the KEY

 

Study: Concussions Aren't the Link to CTE

 

New research on chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) concludes that it's not concussions that cause the condition, but repeated traumatic brain injuries (TBIs)—the kind experienced by more people than just those involved in contact sports. Authors of the study also call for more clarity when it comes to concussion—which they describe as a syndrome—versus TBI, a tissue-damaging event that can happen with or without concussion.

[Reed83HOF]

14 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Why?

 

  Veterans DONT have full lifetime Healthcare why should football players?

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