Beast Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: The NFLPA sucessfully sued the league for suppressing evidence of brain damage caused by pro football, so no; they actually didn't know what they were signing up for. Obviously they know now and they continue to play. Am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: LOL a conference and a hotline...now who's being disingenuous? No, go back and look at the history, if you recall that was the year the NFL "come clean", the risks were known (no not all the risks, we certainly dont know all the risks) , hell there were lawsuits about in 30? ytr s prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, Binghamton Beast said: Obviously they know now and they continue to play. Am I right? No all these players OBVIOUSLY still being lied too, because why would they keep playing??? OOO YEAH they are MAKING MILLIONS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: If he said "i care" would that make you feel better? Would that make the players feel better? It would make him look less like a selfish ****. Yes these guys made the choice. A choice for our entertainment. I made that choice because I've fought, played football, baseball and basketball. But if it does happen, instead of saying "I don't give 2 ****"....you could just say nothing? I personally don't want anyone to suffer in anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: No all these players OBVIOUSLY still being lied too, because why would they keep playing??? OOO YEAH they are MAKING MILLIONS And there are many that would do it for a lot less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Laughing Coffin said: It's not about being "a dumb football player" it's about having the opportunity to make an amount of money that no other avenue of life would have provided them. There's a lot of athletes that grow up in poverty, and this is there only chance to not only bring themselves out of it, but the rest of their families, present and future generations. I dont disagree with this. All these people complaining about it will get "their wish", the game wont be the same in the very near future and the kids that did want to risk it for the fame and money, wont be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, Binghamton Beast said: Obviously they know now and they continue to play. Am I right? Not necessarily. The relationship between TBI and CTE is still not well understood. That football is dangerous has always been the case, but specific to CTE and the subsequent lawsuit I wouldn't expect players today to have a great understanding of CTE, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yeah alot more issues out there than worrying about a Millionaire now trying to get more money from a sport he made millions from So what if there's more issues. Does mean this isn't an issue. There's more and bigger issues than your cable going out during a Bills game. But if it happens, are you just going to sit back and say "there's bigger issues than this...so I won't complain and calmly wait until the Bills game comes back on". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 You want to ban football you better start banning other sports like hockey, MMA, boxing, NASCAR.... This is the crap we have to look forward to in the future. People telling you what you can and can’t do. Just now, GoBills808 said: Not necessarily. The relationship between TBI and CTE is still not well understood. That football is dangerous has always been the case, but specific to CTE and the subsequent lawsuit I wouldn't expect players today to have a great understanding of CTE, no. ? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: It would make him look less like a selfish ****. Yes these guys made the choice. A choice for our entertainment. I made that choice because I've fought, played football, baseball and basketball. But if it does happen, instead of saying "I don't give 2 ****"....you could just say nothing? I personally don't want anyone to suffer in anyway. And a CHOICE that Compensated them at a Higher level than any other person could think about being compensated at. So yep DONT Care, they could have walked away like Luck, Willis, Sanders etc etc etc. Would I have booed them and hammered them.... NOPE. Why Because it was THEIR CHOICE. Just like it is their choice to KEEP playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: It would make him look less like a selfish ****. Yes these guys made the choice. A choice for our entertainment. I made that choice because I've fought, played football, baseball and basketball. But if it does happen, instead of saying "I don't give 2 ****"....you could just say nothing? I personally don't want anyone to suffer in anyway. If I may, he is answering as an economist would, interjection of emotion here doesn't really advance the discussion in my opinion. If he is selfish, why do you care? As I said it aint gonna change a damn thing, aint gonna make Le Ron feel better if Maj Bobby "cares". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I think NFL players of past generations really had no idea of the possible CTE issues. However, there isn't a player on the field today (or even over the last 10 years or so) that is not aware of the potential long term health issues - and not just CTE. They may not have known about CTE, but they knew they were possibly looking at long term health issues seeing what previous players had been through. I think people have known for a while that taking many blows to the head could result in problems. Now they just know more about it. As for the other careers, sure miners and factory workers know that they can end up with health issues later on, the difference is most have little other choice for a career. There isn't much out there if you don't have the education and need to support yourself and family. Playing a game for money is more of a luxury for those born with the skills and talent to do it. They don't have to and no one's making them do it. They can leave and get other careers to make ends meet. It is a shame that a billion dollar industry that is making money off others playing a game that can affect their long term health doesn't give them medical care afterwards, but that's also part of why they get paid so well today, it's not the league's problem most can't save for retirement. But it's also not surprising that they don't have it seeing as how Vets don't get much assistants, and first responders needed to have a celebrity help them fight for almost 20 years to get help in what is supposed to be the best Country that makes everyone pay for their own medical care..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: So what if there's more issues. Does mean this isn't an issue. There's more and bigger issues than your cable going out during a Bills game. But if it happens, are you just going to sit back and say "there's bigger issues than this...so I won't complain and calmly wait until the Bills game comes back on". Yep, I do I move on to something else, why because life is too short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: And a CHOICE that Compensated them at a Higher level than any other person could think about being compensated at. So yep DONT Care, they could have walked away like Luck, Willis, Sanders etc etc etc. Would I have booed them and hammered them.... NOPE. Why Because it was THEIR CHOICE. Just like it is their choice to KEEP playing Another man suffering for potentially the rest of his life and you just don't care..... 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Yep, I do I move on to something else, why because life is too short. You B word more than anymore on here...this is being disingenuous. You can't even more on from this message board when people disagree with you and you're going to move onto something else during a live Bills game? LOL...you'll be on this message board complaining instantly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yep, I do I move on to something else, why because life is too short. For the love of God will you please tell him "you care" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 And for those that think the NFL is callous here may I ask Why? Here is their POST career Benefits? https://www.playsmartplaysafe.com/resource/nfl-benefits/ What are the Post Career Benefits for an NCAA player (and their Billions they make)? What about the Post Career Benefits of a HS Player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Median NFL salary about $860,000...for all you pocket watchers mad about some athletes 'making millions' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: If I may, he is answering as an economist would, interjection of emotion here doesn't really advance the discussion in my opinion. If he is selfish, why do you care? As I said it aint gonna change a damn thing, aint gonna make Le Ron feel better if Maj Bobby "cares". It's a public message board and it's a current trending topic. Am I really not allowed to interject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Another man suffering for potentially the rest of his life and you just don't care..... Yeah, who needs empathy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: For the love of God will you please tell him "you care" . I care it is sad he struggles (there does that make them feel better) BUT it was his choice, no reason to cry for more. I care MORE about that HS player that has issues and GETS NADA I care MORE about that College player that ISN'T compensated and his body and head used up. Just now, GoBills808 said: Median NFL salary about $860,000...for all you pocket watchers mad about some athletes 'making millions' This is about McClain and his 11M he made and all the nice benefits that he still makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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