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Oloffsson was a factor in both of our scores. In the McCabe goal Olofsson was standing in front of the Detroit net screening the goalie. And with the Reinhart goal on the PP he looked like he was going to shoot but instead made a pass to Reinhart in front of the net who directed the puck into the net. I thought that Olofsson moved around the ice more than he has in the previous games.  

19 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

Miller would be my guess. He started strong, but has struggled a bit lately.

I don't know the nature of Scandella's injury so I'll put that issue aside. Because the schedule is so compressed I wouldn't be surprised if Miller, Scandella and maybe even Gilmour (who I thought played well) will be rotated. If I had to guess I would think that Montour would be paired with Dahlin.  

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On 10/26/2019 at 7:57 AM, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Who's out when Montour comes back? 

 

Miller?


Can Montour play the left side? I believe he can. If so, I’d waive Scandella or look to trade him.

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12 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

The biggest mistake that Housley made was his failure to adjust. He was hardheaded and unyielding about his philosophy and system. If the players aren't grasping or are incapable of executing your system then you have to adjust to what the players can do. The biggest difference between Krueger and Housley is that Krueger has been brilliant in assessing the talent he has and adapting to what their strengths are and minimizing their liabilities. He has also been smart in putting together lines and pairings that fit well.

 

The distinction on how each of these coaches handled Risto, their workhorse defenseman, says it all. Risto is a physical player but he is not the greatest thinker on the ice. While Housley devised a defensive scheme that cluttered Risto's hard head Krueger devised a more simplistic scheme where he just had to play a more basic game.

 

I'm not as harsh a critic of Housley as some of the lynching crowd here. According to the link there were teams that wanted to bring him on board as an assistant coach. So he isn't seen as a lost cause. I hope that from his struggles in Buffalo he has learned the basic tenet about teaching: the emphasis is on the players and not on the strategy.  Players have to adapt and so do coaches.  

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The attached link is a Paul Hamilton WGR article about John Gilmour being ready when called on. According to Paul H. Scandella is going to be between 2 to 3 weeks. The team having depth is not a problem to worry about as it is a situation to be happy about. The article also points out that Arizona is playing well with exceptional goaltending. 

 

https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/sabres-gilmour-kept-himself-ready-his-opportunity

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10 hours ago, JohnC said:

The attached link is a Paul Hamilton WGR article about John Gilmour being ready when called on. According to Paul H. Scandella is going to be between 2 to 3 weeks. The team having depth is not a problem to worry about as it is a situation to be happy about. The article also points out that Arizona is playing well with exceptional goaltending. 

 

https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/sabres-gilmour-kept-himself-ready-his-opportunity

Yes!  Yotes exhibiting some tight tending! Can't let bad ones squeak in against teams like this!!!

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Never great to blow a 2 goal lead, but that's a game the Sabres would have absolutely lost in regulation last year.  So it's good to see..  with the goaltending being better (so far) and the defense playing better...it resulted in a valuable point. 

 

One concerning aspect as told to me by a friend who attended the game.. the Sabres still don't possess the puck as much as they need to.  That will catch up to them.

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9 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yes!  Yotes exhibiting some tight tending! Can't let bad ones squeak in against teams like this!!!

That was a fluke goal. The odds of that puck finding that small gap is miniscule. You can blame Hutton for that goal but you have to give him credit for a lot of other good stops. He kept the team in the game.  Arizona has been a teetering franchise on and off the ice for quite a while. Now the franchise is stable and the team is upcoming. 

6 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Never great to blow a 2 goal lead, but that's a game the Sabres would have absolutely lost in regulation last year.  So it's good to see..  with the goaltending being better (so far) and the defense playing better...it resulted in a valuable point. 

 

One concerning aspect as told to me by a friend who attended the game.. the Sabres still don't possess the puck as much as they need to.  That will catch up to them.

Mittelstadt was in a good golden position to score at least three times at the end of the game. He either hit the crossbar or shot it over the net. Eventually, he is going to convert those opportunities with a greater frequency

 

This was an entertaining game against evenly matched teams. I thought both teams gave good effort. I would like to see the Sabres be more inclined to shoot rather than pass when there are opportunities. On the play that Jack scored that was the type of situation where he would usually pass. Instead he shot and scored. 

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4 hours ago, JohnC said:

That was a fluke goal. The odds of that puck finding that small gap is miniscule. You can blame Hutton for that goal but you have to give him credit for a lot of other good stops. He kept the team in the game.  Arizona has been a teetering franchise on and off the ice for quite a while. Now the franchise is stable and the team is upcoming. 

Mittelstadt was in a good golden position to score at least three times at the end of the game. He either hit the crossbar or shot it over the net. Eventually, he is going to convert those opportunities with a greater frequency

 

This was an entertaining game against evenly matched teams. I thought both teams gave good effort. I would like to see the Sabres be more inclined to shoot rather than pass when there are opportunities. On the play that Jack scored that was the type of situation where he would usually pass. Instead he shot and scored. 

 

Both goals against were flukey.  Hutton made a number of big stops that kept it tied.

Arizona played a tight style last night and the Sabres couldn't sustain much pressure for long stretches -- except that second period stretch when it seemed like the puck was in Arizona's end for 5 minutes (and they didn't capitalize).

 

Sabres give good effort, AND at times it is as though they're playing faster than their talent allows.  So there's a lot of times when passes bounce off sticks or pucks aren't kept in at the blueline, etc.  The good news is that the talent is close to catching up to the speed that they're playing at, and the pace isn't so fast that they're taking bad penalties.

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

Both goals against were flukey.  Hutton made a number of big stops that kept it tied.

Arizona played a tight style last night and the Sabres couldn't sustain much pressure for long stretches -- except that second period stretch when it seemed like the puck was in Arizona's end for 5 minutes (and they didn't capitalize).

 

Sabres give good effort, AND at times it is as though they're playing faster than their talent allows.  So there's a lot of times when passes bounce off sticks or pucks aren't kept in at the blueline, etc.  The good news is that the talent is close to catching up to the speed that they're playing at, and the pace isn't so fast that they're taking bad penalties.

 

 

 

As the games start to add up I'm becoming more convinced that Olofsson is a drag on the Jack line when on 5x5. Olofsson is dynamite on the PP but his production and performance as a first line player isn't acceptable. I don't see an option in the system other than moving Skinner back to the top line. But making that move will affect the second line which is making a good contribution right now. 

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1 minute ago, JohnC said:

As the games start to add up I'm becoming more convinced that Olofsson is a drag on the Jack line when on 5x5. Olofsson is dynamite on the PP but his production and performance as a first line player isn't acceptable. I don't see an option in the system other than moving Skinner back to the top line. But making that move will affect the second line which is making a good contribution right now. 

 

Olofsson's got a good, hard shot, but he keeps missing the net badly, so the puck ends up winding down the boards and out of the offensive zone.  His shot is useless if it isn't on net.  And I agree that he should be kept up on that first line (or another replacement besides Skinner made) because the second line is doing pretty well.

 

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Just wanted to say the OT last night, as in almost all games, was positively amazing.


Even when Arizona was doing a lot of back tracking and the crowd was booing, I was loving it. 

 

3 on 3 hockey is super exciting.  It's a total chess match b/c everyone is paired up in a man-on-man defensive scheme, and you simply can't make a tactical mistake or let your man get by you, b/c it's an instant breakaway or odd man rush and glorious scoring chance if it happens.

 

And then once an odd-man situation develops, it usually gives rise to one going back the other way, and then one going back the other way, and so on, and the game can bust wide open into pure craziness very quickly.

 

When I finish watching these 3 on 3 OTs, I constantly ask myself "So why is the regular game 5 on 5 again?"

 

It's a different sport 3 on 3, and much, much more exciting, fun, and entertaining.

 

Just is.

 

I know the purists, the NHLPA, and most folks surrounding the game would never switch to 3 on 3 or deem it Mickey Mouse, but man, it's fun.

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Just wanted to say the OT last night, as in almost all games, was positively amazing.


Even when Arizona was doing a lot of back tracking and the crowd was booing, I was loving it. 

 

4 on 4 hockey is super exciting.  It's a total chess match b/c everyone is paired up in a man-on-man defensive scheme, and you simply can't make a tactical mistake or let your man get by you, b/c it's an instant breakaway or odd man rush and glorious scoring chance if it happens.

 

And then once an odd-man situation develops, it usually gives rise to one going back the other way, and then one going back the other way, and so on, and the game can bust wide open into pure craziness very quickly.

 

When I finish watching these 4 on 4 OTs, I constantly ask myself "So why is the regular game 5 on 5 again?"

 

It's a different sport 4 on 4, and much, much more exciting, fun, and entertaining.

 

Just is.

 

I know the purists, the NHLPA, and most folks surrounding the game would never switch to 4 on 4 or deem it Mickey Mouse, but man, it's fun.

 

 

 

 

Overtime is 3 on 3. (I agree with your point, though).

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3 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

Overtime is 3 on 3. (I agree with your point, though).

LOL!  Of course!

 

I went back and fixed it.

 

I'll chalk this one up to brain fade.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

Just wanted to say the OT last night, as in almost all games, was positively amazing.


Even when Arizona was doing a lot of back tracking and the crowd was booing, I was loving it. 

 

3 on 3 hockey is super exciting.  It's a total chess match b/c everyone is paired up in a man-on-man defensive scheme, and you simply can't make a tactical mistake or let your man get by you, b/c it's an instant breakaway or odd man rush and glorious scoring chance if it happens.

 

And then once an odd-man situation develops, it usually gives rise to one going back the other way, and then one going back the other way, and so on, and the game can bust wide open into pure craziness very quickly.

 

When I finish watching these 3 on 3 OTs, I constantly ask myself "So why is the regular game 5 on 5 again?"

 

It's a different sport 3 on 3, and much, much more exciting, fun, and entertaining.

 

Just is.

 

I know the purists, the NHLPA, and most folks surrounding the game would never switch to 3 on 3 or deem it Mickey Mouse, but man, it's fun.

 

 

 

 

On the WGR Instigator show it was pointed out that in the five minute overtime there was no play stoppage. I think they said that it was a first. 

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The attached link is a 15 min. segment with Krueger on WGR. He talks about adjusting his practice schedule and regimen to the so far compressed schedule. He talks about Dahlin and Jokiharju and their development. He made the interesting observation that because Joki has more NHL experience than Dahlin that it is factor where each is currently at as a player. When he was asked where he believed his team was he stated that he would be able to make a better assessment after 25 games or so. But he emphasized that he was happy with the team's commitment and buy-in into what he was promoting. He's terrific to listen to. 

 

https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/krueger-october-was-confirmation-how-we-want-play

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5 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

 

In the WGR link that I listed in my prior post Krueger talks about the importance of off ice workouts to upgrade and maintain conditioning. He is a man driven by the science of psychology and biology. He is a holistic and modern day coach who believes that player and team development is a continuous process. He and McDermott are birds of a feather!

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52 minutes ago, JohnC said:

In the WGR link that I listed in my prior post Krueger talks about the importance of off ice workouts to upgrade and maintain conditioning. He is a man driven by the science of psychology and biology. He is a holistic and modern day coach who believes that player and team development is a continuous process. He and McDermott are birds of a feather!

I agree with the development part for both coaches but the one big difference is one plays a system that works in the modern day and the other believes in Rockpile days football with his conservative approach to offense. 

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1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said:

I agree with the development part for both coaches but the one big difference is one plays a system that works in the modern day and the other believes in Rockpile days football with his conservative approach to offense. 

I respectfully disagree with your more limited view of the football coach's offensive approach. The biggest issue on how you run your offense and the expansiveness of it is what is the capability of your qb at this particular time? When your qb is still in the infantile stage of development you can't expect him to handle a more mature and complex offense. The more the young qb demonstrates that he can handle a more complex offense the more expansive the offense will be. You start simple and add to your offensive repertoire as the qb gains more experience. 

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1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

Two tough games coming up after a few days off.  I've got nothing to base this on but I don't have a good feeling about Friday in Washington (like the flat feeling an NFL team has coming off their bye).  I bet they're better on Saturday.

 

I can't really complain about the season to date.  Points in 11 of 13 games in a compressed October is fantastic.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

Two tough games coming up after a few days off.  I've got nothing to base this on but I don't have a good feeling about Friday in Washington (like the flat feeling an NFL team has coming off their bye).  I bet they're better on Saturday.

 

I can't really complain about the season to date.  Points in 11 of 13 games in a compressed October is fantastic.

 

 

 

...looking at the Sabres tied for 1st in the East and #5 in goal differential...do NOT wake me up.....

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22 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

Two tough games coming up after a few days off. I've got nothing to base this on but I don't have a good feeling about Friday in Washington (like the flat feeling an NFL team has coming off their bye).  I bet they're better on Saturday.

 

I can't really complain about the season to date.  Points in 11 of 13 games in a compressed October is fantastic.

 

 

I do have something to base it on why Washington should be favored to win the game: More talent! That is not to say that we can't be competitive against this superb squad but in reality that Capital team is a legitimate Stanley Cup contender. They have all the ingredients with their well rounded roster including one of the best goal scorers in the history of the game.  Another team that I am impressed with is Boston. They are also tough. If the Sabres can win one of the two games in their upcoming back to back I will be more than happy.

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13 hours ago, JohnC said:

The attached link is a 15 min. segment with Krueger on WGR. He talks about adjusting his practice schedule and regimen to the so far compressed schedule. He talks about Dahlin and Jokiharju and their development. He made the interesting observation that because Joki has more NHL experience than Dahlin that it is factor where each is currently at as a player. When he was asked where he believed his team was he stated that he would be able to make a better assessment after 25 games or so. But he emphasized that he was happy with the team's commitment and buy-in into what he was promoting. He's terrific to listen to. 

 

https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/krueger-october-was-confirmation-how-we-want-play

 

Most importantly, he talks about being a fan of Bachman Turner Overdrive - and saw them several times since they and he are from Winnipeg.  

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6 hours ago, bbb said:

 

Most importantly, he talks about being a fan of Bachman Turner Overdrive - and saw them several times since they and he are from Winnipeg.  

He also pointed out that Botterill should be a fan because this group is from his neck of the woods. 

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21 hours ago, JohnC said:

I respectfully disagree with your more limited view of the football coach's offensive approach. The biggest issue on how you run your offense and the expansiveness of it is what is the capability of your qb at this particular time? When your qb is still in the infantile stage of development you can't expect him to handle a more mature and complex offense. The more the young qb demonstrates that he can handle a more complex offense the more expansive the offense will be. You start simple and add to your offensive repertoire as the qb gains more experience. 

The BILLS have one of the most complicated offenses in the NFL.  The new veteran WRs have said as much numerous times.

 

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5 hours ago, Alaska Darin said:

The BILLS have one of the most complicated offenses in the NFL.  The new veteran WRs have said as much numerous times.

 

What is obvious to me is that the young qb has not mastered running this offense whether it is considered complex or simple . I like Josh Allen. But it is clearly evident (at least to me) that he is not adept at going through his progressions and finding the secondary targets. And it is evident to me that as a young qb he is too often making mistakes associated with not valuing the ball. I'm confident the more experience he gains the better he will play. But I don't believe it is unfair to say that the still has a long way to go to be considered a proficient qb.   

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https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1861471/in-krueger-they-trust-have-the-white-hot-sabres-finally-turned-the-corner

In Krueger they trust: Have the white-hot Sabres finally turned the corner?

 

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BUFFALO - It hit Ralph Krueger earlier this week in a KeyBank Arena hallway.

 

As the first-year Sabres head coach reflected on the early days of his tenure in Buffalo, he felt a chill. Krueger's group had exploded out of the gate to start the 2019-20 season, gelling behind closed doors while collecting 15 of a possible 18 points. His body was telling him to soak it all in for a quick moment.

 

"If somebody asked me, 'After 10 games, what would I like to know?' It's that we have a right to be part of the (playoff) race. That'd be the first thing," Krueger said in a conversation Monday afternoon. "And I feel that for sure we do, especially after that (2-1-0 California) road trip. I get a little bit of goosebumps when I think about it because this is the first time I've actually said it to anybody."

 

It’s a really good article. 

 

As for this part above, I sure hope he’s right! If the Sabres fan keep playing the way they’ve been on most nights and keep banking points even on some of their off nights, they have a chance at making it as a wildcard team. 

 

But my fear is that eventually their lack of forward depth catches up with them.

Even if they just miss the playoffs it would be a vast improvement though. 

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1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said:

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1861471/in-krueger-they-trust-have-the-white-hot-sabres-finally-turned-the-corner

In Krueger they trust: Have the white-hot Sabres finally turned the corner?

 

 

It’s a really good article. 

 

As for this part above, I sure hope he’s right! If the Sabres fan keep playing the way they’ve been on most nights and keep banking points even on some of their off nights, they have a chance at making it as a wildcard team. 

 

But my fear is that eventually their lack of forward depth catches up with them.

Even if they just miss the playoffs it would be a vast improvement though. 

My worries, too.  I know it's been beaten to death, but hopefully the D surplus helps Botts solve that problem. 

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