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Jets fire GM Mike Maccagnan, name Adam Gase interim GM

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41 minutes ago, Logic said:



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He forgot that Todd Haley was Mayfields OC in Cleveland. 

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46 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Miami apparently didn't think he was so good.  We'll see. 

They Had an idiot for a GM.  As did the Jets.  Gase has recognized his deficiencies in the D department and hired Greggo.

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The below article is....really something.


https://www.ganggreennation.com/2019/5/15/18624969/the-jets-are-an-aimless-embarrassment

 

The Jets are an aimless embarrassment

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By John B  May 15, 2019, 2:15pm EDT
 

usa_today_11848584.0.jpgRich Barnes-USA TODAY Sports


I don’t have any sympathy for Mike Maccagnan.


His firing was overdue. He had four years to try his hand at being the Jets’ general manager, and his record was objectively poor in almost every category. He didn’t show the big picture vision necessary to build a Super Bowl contender. And there is something poetic about him being pushed out because he lost a power struggle. Just months ago he orchestrated a media campaign designed to make sure Todd Bowles and not he paid the price for the team’s disappointing season.


He needed to be relieved of his duties. I am convinced of that.


But as they do so frequently, the Jets have somehow managed to bungle things even when they are making an obvious move.

Much of the discussion from today‚Äôs change will revolve around the timing. I have already seen many comments beginning with, ‚ÄúThe timing isn‚Äôt ideal, but.‚ÄĚ


There is no but.

 

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3 hours ago, WhoTom said:

 

That's what I was thinking: who fires their GM right after the draft? Oh yeah, the Bills.

 

 

 

 

Actually, firing GM's after the draft is not all that uncommon.  There are two schools of thought. One being that you do it right at the end of the season when you dump the head coach.  The second is do it right after the draft so that you don't disrupt the draft preparation and free agency signing process.  I prefer at the end of the season and don't touch the Personnel and Scouting Departments until after the draft.

Gase couldn't get along in Miami and now it has started in New York.  Losers will act like losers!  I love the fact that the New York media is totally apoplectic over the bumbling of both of their teams.

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45 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I don't know about that the Bills almost traded up with Denver in the actual draft.

So theirs an Owner then a Chairman/CEO then a President then a GM then a HC? That seems a little top heavy.

 

Almost?  So Denver wouldn’t have dropped 1 spot for 1 of those 2nd rounders?  It was a flailing prayer move by a dead man walking GM that bought him another year as GM when he should’ve been fired after year 3 along with Bowles.  

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2 hours ago, Juice_32 said:

How the hell is Gase held in such high esteem? What has the guy ever done? Ed Reed was right.

he did that one thing with his eyes

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55 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Seems a little top heavy.

The owner is an ambassador and out of the picture.  So looks heavy because of that to a degree.

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6 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

he did that one thing with his eyes

He has fast eyes?

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Gase didnt want to pay Bell and Mosley the money the did.  But if they didn't pay them that money they would have signed elsewhere and the Jets would have had nothing improving on their team.

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3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

They let Gase, who has won nothing, win the power struggle that fast and take over the entire team? 

But the same could be said of McDermott, right? We did the same thing, allowing McDermott to bring in a GM that he trusted.

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7 minutes ago, Dafan said:

Gase didnt want to pay Bell and Mosley the money the did.  But if they didn't pay them that money they would have signed elsewhere and the Jets would have had nothing improving on their team.

 

Exactly - the GM had to make moves to save his job, so, oh, yeah wait...

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2 hours ago, Kmart128 said:

I'm surprised. They seemed to have a good off-season. Two years in a row

But  did they win the off season?

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so not only do they wait so long to fire the GM, it now gets out that their new HC didnt even want the big players they just signed in FA? Man thats next level bad

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If I am a Jets fan, I’d rather have Gase in charge than Maccagnan.  Gase was the next big offensive coach coming from Denver.  I can’t really hold it against him that he didn’t win with Tannehill as QB.  Deserves another shot.  Maccagnan was a clown and deserved to go.  

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41 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Pre-Modanna doesnt mean before Madonna.

 

They're making fun of you because it's "prima donna," not "pre-madonna."

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1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said:

If I am a Jets fan, I’d rather have Gase in charge than Maccagnan.  Gase was the next big offensive coach coming from Denver.  I can’t really hold it against him that he didn’t win with Tannehill as QB.  Deserves another shot.  Maccagnan was a clown and deserved to go.  

If I am a Jets fan... well I wouldn't want to be a Jets fan. I wouldnt trust Gase either though, Maccagnan put them in a bad spot in reality.

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3 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

His winning percentage is better than McDermott's and he's actually beat BB a few times.... so I don't really get all the criticism from Bills fans of him.

 

He doesn't have what it takes long term to be a successful Head Coach. He doesn't have the character, the demeanor or the leadership skill. He is, I think, a good x and o guy - especially on offense. But you need to be a hell of a lot more than that to win consistently in this league. Gase's body language on the sideline when his team is struggling is atrocious. He is a sulker. You can't succeed that way. I am sure of it. You have to stay a teacher at all times good or bad. 

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1 minute ago, Heitz said:

 

Exactly - the GM had to make moves to save his job, so, oh, yeah wait...

 

I think this is what killed Mac.  He spent excessively on splashy free agents for an immediate impact an keep his job.  

 

He has a terrible drafting record outside of the 1 top-six pick he gets to make almost every year.  Now the Jets have devoted big money to a RB and a LB, which are usually two of the most cap-friendly positions.

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15 minutes ago, MJS said:

But the same could be said of McDermott, right? We did the same thing, allowing McDermott to bring in a GM that he trusted.

It may appear on the surface like a similar situation but looking at it from the lens of following both situations closely, it was not. Mac was given full control of the draft and FA, which caused friction with Gase and then ownership caved. There was tons of media speculation about the friction between the 2 and Gase denied it all. With the Bills situation, Whaley was a lame duck the minute McD got here. He was so different than Rex/Whaley that the Pegulas witnessed competence and realized that Whaley was in over his head. It didn’t help that he looked like a bumbling idiot in front of the media over and over and didn’t appear fit to run an NFL team.  He reportedly had little control over the draft or FA and was just a puppet for McD until Beane got there, which is why he and the entire FO and scouting dept was fired the day after the draft. McD also didn’t reach for control over the 53, the Bills just wanted a different GM to pair with McD and draft the QB, 

 

The Jets are firing the GM who picked the QB -during OTAs - and outside of his right hand man, everyone else in the FO is still there and GASE is now in his job, until they fill it. And when they do, that GM will not have control over the 53, I suspect.

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having your gm and coach on the same page is so important. Interesting this didn't happen before the draft

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1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

having your gm and coach on the same page is so important. Interesting this didn't happen before the draft

Totally agree. In this case, it will be more about the GM being on Gase’s page. I don’t envision a two-way street

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49 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

They Had an idiot for a GM.  As did the Jets.  Gase has recognized his deficiencies in the D department and hired Greggo.

 

The word is one of the sticking points was hiring greggo. Gase didn't want him.

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A major reason why the Pats have had an 18 year dynasty is because of the total incompetence of the other 3 organizations in this division. 

 

Don’t ever let this fact get lost when bringing up the Pats in historical perspectives.

 

The Jets continue to be living proof of this as they follow Buffalo’s footsteps on how to handle a GM situation (Bills in 2017).

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