joevan Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 According to Wikipedia, “The Outland Trophy is awarded to the best college football interior lineman in the United States as adjudged by the Football Writers Association of America.” Ed Oliver won this award while still a teenager a few days before his 20th birthday. How big is this award? It does not only include defensive linemen but also offensive linemen. Two longtime Buffalo Bills, both now on the Wall of Fame, have won the Outland Trophy. It doesn’t have the hype and glamour of the Heisman but can be considered the highest achievement for those who play in the “trenches”. How many greats have won this award? Here’s more than a few going back a ways, that stand out to me. Alex Karras- member of the NFL 1960’s All Decade Team and later a TV actor Merlin Olsen- NFL Hall of Fame who also became a TV actor Bobby Bell- NFL Hall of Fame as a KC linebacker Tommy Nobis-1960’s All Decade Team who played guard on offense and linebacker in college Ron Yary- NFL Hall of Fame, Drafted first overall in 1968 NFL Draft. Randy White- NFL Hall of Fame who followed great Bob Lilly Lee Roy Selmon- NFL Hall of Fame and Pro Football Weekly’s All Time 3-4 Defensive Team Jim Ritcher- Bills great who played here in Buffalo for over 14 years Bruce Smith- NFL Hall of Fame and All Time Sack Leader and in the argument for GBOAT Orlando Pace- NFL Hall of Famer and first offensive lineman picked first (1997) since Yary in 1968 Joe Thomas- 7 time first team pro bowler and sure Hall of Famer Ndamukong Ngwa Suh-one of the best defensive tackles in the game Aaron Donald- recognized as the best defensive tackle currently playing I realize that not all Outland Trophy winners are Hall of Famers, but getting this award is special. Without wanting to pressurize the young fella, I think we need to recognize the rare talent here, who seems to have the potential to be an All-Time Bills Great. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, joevan said: According to Wikipedia, “The Outland Trophy is awarded to the best college football interior lineman in the United States as adjudged by the Football Writers Association of America.” Ed Oliver won this award while still a teenager a few days before his 20th birthday. How big is this award? It does not only include defensive linemen but also offensive linemen. Two longtime Buffalo Bills, both now on the Wall of Fame, have won the Outland Trophy. It doesn’t have the hype and glamour of the Heisman but can be considered the highest achievement for those who play in the “trenches”. How many greats have won this award? Here’s more than a few going back a ways, that stand out to me. Alex Karras- member of the NFL 1960’s All Decade Team and later a TV actor Merlin Olsen- NFL Hall of Fame who also became a TV actor Bobby Bell- NFL Hall of Fame as a KC linebacker Tommy Nobis-1960’s All Decade Team who played guard on offense and linebacker in college Ron Yary- NFL Hall of Fame, Drafted first overall in 1968 NFL Draft. Randy White- NFL Hall of Fame who followed great Bob Lilly Lee Roy Selmon- NFL Hall of Fame and Pro Football Weekly’s All Time 3-4 Defensive Team Jim Ritcher- Bills great who played here in Buffalo for over 14 years Bruce Smith- NFL Hall of Fame and All Time Sack Leader and in the argument for GBOAT Orlando Pace- NFL Hall of Famer and first offensive lineman picked first (1997) since Yary in 1968 Joe Thomas- 7 time first team pro bowler and sure Hall of Famer Ndamukong Ngwa Suh-one of the best defensive tackles in the game Aaron Donald- recognized as the best defensive tackle currently playing I realize that not all Outland Trophy winners are Hall of Famers, but getting this award is special. Without wanting to pressurize the young fella, I think we need to recognize the rare talent here, who seems to have the potential to be an All-Time Bills Great. That’s good company. Even if he weren’t to make the Hall of Fame, having a career like the non-Hall of Famers would still be great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sherpa Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Jim Ritcher was simply not big enough to have the impact to make the HOF, but he certainly made the best of what physical stature he had. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, joevan said: Without wanting to pressurize the young fella Make sure you tenderize him first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhickedWilliams Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Was this years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 This guy GETS it: 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Bruce Smith Part II?? That would be great! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) Jordan Reid@JReidNFL Just to put Ed Oliver’s 4.19 short-shuttle time into perspective, here’s some other notable results: 4.18 – Antonio Brown 4.19 -- Ed Oliver 4.19 – DeSean Jackson 4.24 – Saquon Barkley 4.24 – Le’Veon Bell 4.25 – Julio Jones 4.39 – Aaron Donald 4.40 -- Devin Singletary 10:08 AM - Mar 28, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy Cat like quickness for a 290 lb man. Over 110 lbs heavier than Desean Jackson and Antonio Brown. Incredible. Here is a comparison with Donald, they are about the same ht wgt and arm length. 40-yard dash 3-cone Short shuttle Vertical Broad Bench Donald 4.68s 7.11s 4.39s 32″ 116″ 35 reps Oliver 4.73s 7.15s 4.19s 36″ 120″ 32 reps Edited May 8, 2019 by Turk71 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Jordan Reid@JReidNFL Just to put Ed Oliver’s 4.19 short-shuttle time into perspective, here’s some other notable results: 4.18 – Antonio Brown 4.19 -- Ed Oliver 4.19 – DeSean Jackson 4.24 – Saquon Barkley 4.24 – Le’Veon Bell 4.25 – Julio Jones 4.39 – Aaron Donald 4.40 -- Devin Singletary 10:08 AM - Mar 28, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy Cat like quickness for a 290 lb man. Over 110 lbs heavier than Desean Jackson and Antonio Brown. Incredible. I've seen these stats several times now and it still blows me away how crazy that number is. Freakish...... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 He's an athletic freak, which is clearly something that Beane looks for in the first round (3/3). Greatest athletic ability = highest ceiling. Oliver was the perfect pick at the perfect time. He probably won't replace Kyle Williams in the locker room, but I think what he does on the field will help us get over the loss. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sherpa Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 And by the way, and you didn't hear it from me.... Marv Levy used to always "challenge Jim Ritcher to get bigger or end his career. There would be a weigh in at the start of camp/OTA's whatever. They would allow you to wear a baseball hat at the weigh in. Jim's wife used to sew weights into the baseball hat to get Jim a few extra pounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 19 hours ago, Turk71 said: Jordan Reid@JReidNFL Just to put Ed Oliver’s 4.19 short-shuttle time into perspective, here’s some other notable results: 4.18 – Antonio Brown 4.19 -- Ed Oliver 4.19 – DeSean Jackson 4.24 – Saquon Barkley 4.24 – Le’Veon Bell 4.25 – Julio Jones 4.39 – Aaron Donald 4.40 -- Devin Singletary 10:08 AM - Mar 28, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy Cat like quickness for a 290 lb man. Over 110 lbs heavier than Desean Jackson and Antonio Brown. Incredible. Here is a comparison with Donald, they are about the same ht wgt and arm length. 40-yard dash 3-cone Short shuttle Vertical Broad Bench Donald 4.68s 7.11s 4.39s 32″ 116″ 35 reps Oliver 4.73s 7.15s 4.19s 36″ 120″ 32 reps A true freak of nature who may not yet be through filling out his frame based on age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 I really like this pick. I’m praying this kid shows up every down. It’ll be a truly welcome change after some of our recent first round selections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 On 5/7/2019 at 10:29 AM, sherpa said: Jim Ritcher was simply not big enough to have the impact to make the HOF, but he certainly made the best of what physical stature he had. played one SB at 238 LBs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Tcali said: played one SB at 238 LBs Really small. Watch the Houston comeback game though, and you'll see what a player he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I honestly think he’s going to be awesome. Could be wrong but just a gut feeling I have here, Bruce Smith level career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 On 5/8/2019 at 5:51 PM, dubs said: I honestly think he’s going to be awesome. Could be wrong but just a gut feeling I have here, Bruce Smith level career. nobody in the game right now is at the bruce smith level.....so its possible but doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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