formerlyofCtown Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: TE solved Didnt we just try that. I think we have moved on to the Reverse J. Peters method to find our TE now.? Edited April 12, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Can we stop trading up? This is not what good teams do. Good teams have a few elite players to build around, us not so much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Yes, MAC players are terrible. Like Khalil Mack, Antonio Brown, Julian Edelman, Kareem Hunt, Antonio Gates, Ben Roethlisberger and James Harrison. 7 out of how many and how many years? I know it sucks I like UB Football too but his grade is his grade and Hodge in out of the top 150 (there I will be nice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 32 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: 7 out of how many and how many years? I know it sucks I like UB Football too but his grade is his grade and Hodge in out of the top 150 (there I will be nice) I'm not going to quibble but I feel I need to point out those 7 are superstars. There are dozens of MAC depth guys in the NFL as well. The MAC is not some black hole devoid of football talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I'm not going to quibble but I feel I need to point out those 7 are superstars. There are dozens of MAC depth guys in the NFL as well. The MAC is not some black hole devoid of football talent. Did I say it is? All I said is the MAC so yes their will always be level of competition questions with players from the MAC. Then at higher than a 5 second 40 for a LBer and hence the stock becomes 6-UDFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I do think he would make sense as a 7th because you can just sit him for a couple of years as your backup and there aren't going to be many voices crying 'start him' as soon as Allen has a bad thow. And if he doesn't show anything then you can let him walk without much lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: I wonder what "local" is. If Syracuse is local, get those guys in as well. Dungy would be another strong-arm developmental QB to pair with Allen. And Slaton is worth a look at Edge. Hodge would be a nice UDFA pickup if he falls out of the draft. Dungy was a really good college qb but he is far from strong armed. I don’t think he has a nfl future unless he switches positions. He’s a good athlete and tough. He might be a good slot receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: I do think he would make sense as a 7th because you can just sit him for a couple of years as your backup and there aren't going to be many voices crying 'start him' as soon as Allen has a bad thow. And if he doesn't show anything then you can let him walk without much lost Oh, trust me. There would be a LOT of people calling for Tyree if Allen had a bad game. Howard Simon went so far as to say in an article that "we should start talking seriously about Tyree Jackson" if Allen doesn't show improvement through the remainder of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) Tyree would be a good QB3 for the Bills. He's a developmental guy, has a similar build and skill set to Allen, and could develop behind Allen and Barkley. It seems odd to have both Barkley and Anderson on the roster. Anderson seems to be beyond his playing years, but has a good influence in the room. Perhaps he makes it through most of training camp, collecting various bonuses, etc. to make it worth his while, then is "released" and becomes an assistant QB coach/analyst, working with Daboll and Dorsey. That would leave room for a younger developmental guy like Tyree to hold down the QB3 spot behind Allen and Barkley. The other angle would be to keep the 2 veterans and try to stash a developmental guy on the Practice Squad. Obviously, you run the risk of losing the player to another team's active roster if you go that route. Edited April 12, 2019 by msw2112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Let me ask a question: if Tyree Jackson DIDN'T play for UB, would people still be pounding the table as hard as they are for him to be drafted in the 6th or 7th to "sit behind Allen and Barkley to develop?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Let me ask a question: if Tyree Jackson DIDN'T play for UB, would people still be pounding the table as hard as they are for him to be drafted in the 6th or 7th to "sit behind Allen and Barkley to develop?" I wouldn’t. UDFA for me same with Hodge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I would take him in the 6th-UDFA. Wouldn’t take him any higher. Honestly see zero need with Barkley on the roster. He’s young enough to back up Allen for a long time. If we had Allen/Anderson as our only 2 QB’s I would be all for Tyree as early as the 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Yeah, he made that wild catch in the Super Bowl against the Pats. Wow, he's playing QB now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Lombardi Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Yes, MAC players are terrible. Like Khalil Mack, Antonio Brown, Julian Edelman, Kareem Hunt, Antonio Gates, Ben Roethlisberger and James Harrison. Add Randy Moss to that list! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: I was referring to LB Khalil Hodge, not QB Tyree Jackson. What are your thoughts about Khalil making it as one of the best defensive ST players in today's NFL....and starting out as a back up in the middle? I think he would be a steal w/ a fifth.Keep in mind...Beane attended two of our home games this year...I would assume he's on his radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 7 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Not feeling Tyree but would love the Bills to look at AJ, LB Khalil Hodge and C Charles O'Hagen. James O’Hagan 5 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Because he is Slow, Small, limited and well is a MAC player He isn’t small For a modern LBr... but he is slow... and the MAC has produced really good football players... you obviously don’t watch much MAC ball... that’s a lazy assessment that the MAC can’t put out ball players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: I was referring to LB Khalil Hodge, not QB Tyree Jackson. Since he ran his 40 in 5.0 he has definitely been slipping... unfortunately cant see him going top 3 with that time... I think he still has value but needs to show he can play at nfl speed 4 hours ago, DCOrange said: Are we both talking about Khalil Hodge? I think being optimistic, Johnson might sneak into the 4th. I think he'll at least be drafted at some point, though he seems to be rated outside the top 20 WRs in the draft by most people at this point. I'm less optimistic about Hodge; he was never viewed close to the same level of prospect as Johnson and he's probably hurt his stock worse in the lead up to the draft than Johnson did. Edit: It's difficult to find mocks that go deep enough to include Hodge, but a few sources: Matt Miller has him rated as the #41 off-ball LB in the draft with an undrafted grade - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2829000-nfl-draft-400-ranking-the-drafts-top-linebackers#slide10 Dane Brugler's 7 round mock has Hodge going undrafted - https://theathletic.com/909149/2019/04/08/dane-bruglers-mock-draft-5-0-projecting-all-seven-rounds-and-all-254-selections/ WalterFootball is the most optimistic that I've seen, ranking him as the #25 inside linebacker with a draft range of 5th-7th rounds (though this has him listed at a 4.72 40 when he didn't even hit 5 seconds at his Pro Day, which is generally faster than official times to boot) - https://walterfootball.com/draft2019ILB.php NFL.com has him graded as a UDFA (and I believe their #36 ILB prospect if I'm counting correctly) - https://www.nfl.com/prospects/khalil-hodge?id=3219484f-4425-7085-52f4-8666ba393f79 He's been constantly talked about throughout the year as a guy hoping to be taken on Day 3 and like I said, that was before he fell on his face at his pro day. It's still possible he gets drafted, but I would be blown away if anyone touches him on the first two days of the draft. In the summer he was definitely talked about as a top 3-4 round pick... he was ranked consistently as the best player in the MAC with AJ #2 he did get gassed as the season progressed and his lack of 40 killed any chance of a high pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Another wasted April Fools joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: James O’Hagan He isn’t small For a modern LBr... but he is slow... and the MAC has produced really good football players... you obviously don’t watch much MAC ball... that’s a lazy assessment that the MAC can’t put out ball players 716..first thing I thought..MajBobby reads national bs..I highly doubt he watched him/Bulls 5 times this past year on ESPN 3 plus. You and Promo are UB sports gods..almost near my level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Since he ran his 40 in 5.0 he has definitely been slipping... unfortunately cant see him going top 3 with that time... I think he still has value but needs to show he can play at nfl speed In the summer he was definitely talked about as a top 3-4 round pick... he was ranked consistently as the best player in the MAC with AJ #2 he did get gassed as the season progressed and his lack of 40 killed any chance of a high pick AJ was ranked 11 th over all by CBS back in May.His hammy did him in last year...I would gobble him up in the 4th,with 100% faith.He would be our number two next year with a healthy leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said: AJ was ranked 11 th over all by CBS back in May.His hammy did him in last year...I would gobble him up in the 4th,with 100% faith.He would be our number two next year with a healthy leg. I still really like him a lot ... I never really had him that high and I think CBS might have been that(high) but he stacks up His deep routes nice... has a little bit of a second gear to kick into and is a rac threat i would be punped to snag him round 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: James O’Hagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I don’t know why he isn’t getting more love... I am not an oline expert but his tape for 3.5 years is phenomenal most reports and scouts i talk too say he is right on the cusp as a camp invite... last year 24 centers made it into camp and my scouting friend has him at 24 His physical skills are hurting him rn as he is slow and doesn’t look great in shorts.., but turn on the tape... he deserves a shot... he has NFL tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I was confused for a minute when I saw Tyree. It made me think of David Tyree, and then I was like, "That dude's gotta be 40 by now..." then I remembered it's the UB QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I don’t know why he isn’t getting more love... I am not an oline expert but his tape for 3.5 years is phenomenal most reports and scouts i talk too say he is right on the cusp as a camp invite... last year 24 centers made it into camp and my scouting friend has him at 24 His physical skills are hurting him rn as he is slow and doesn’t look great in shorts.., but turn on the tape... he deserves a shot... he has NFL tools Worth bringing him to camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Worth bringing him to camp. That line didn't give up a legit sack for the first 5 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I don’t know why he isn’t getting more love... I am not an oline expert but his tape for 3.5 years is phenomenal most reports and scouts i talk too say he is right on the cusp as a camp invite... last year 24 centers made it into camp and my scouting friend has him at 24 His physical skills are hurting him rn as he is slow and doesn’t look great in shorts.., but turn on the tape... he deserves a shot... he has NFL tools When nosworthy was out,he still never skipped a beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said: When nosworthy was out,he still never skipped a beat. He hasn’t missed a beat in 3 seasons... he is the epitome of a UB Bulls lineman my family friend John Kling got signed as a UDFA Tackle out of UB... he was 6’8 and looked like an NFL Tackle but O’Hagan is every bit as talented... undrafted lineman come in and become studs a lot in the NFL... I would bring in O’Hagan and let him learn from Morse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: 716..first thing I thought..MajBobby reads national bs..I highly doubt he watched him/Bulls 5 times this past year on ESPN 3 plus. You and Promo are UB sports gods..almost near my level. ...there is NOBODY on this planet at your level....I checked.......makes you lonely "at the top".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: He hasn’t missed a beat in 3 seasons... he is the epitome of a UB Bulls lineman my family friend John Kling got signed as a UDFA Tackle out of UB... he was 6’8 and looked like an NFL Tackle but O’Hagan is every bit as talented... undrafted lineman come in and become studs a lot in the NFL... I would bring in O’Hagan and let him learn from Morse In a heartbeat. Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...there is NOBODY on this planet at your level....I checked.......makes you lonely "at the top".... That was a joke to 716 and Promo. They get it..stop being cranky. Report the posts..it wouldn't the first time for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: In a heartbeat. That was a joke to 716 and Promo. They get it..stop being cranky. Report the posts..it wouldn't the first time for you. calm down Big Dawg......that was my joke to you...Jesus.......716 & Promo are two of the best.........lighten up... Edited April 12, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: calm down Big Dawg......that was my joke to you...Jesus.......716 & Promo are two of the best.........lighten up... Now I feel like kissing you..and how about a bear hug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Now I feel like kissing you..and how about a bear hug? ...the old fart just turned 66 on Tuesday....got "more damn potholes than the famed cross country route".......had several WD-40's on the rocks to feel younger......belated b-day bear hug works.... Edited April 12, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 My Prediction: Tyree to Carolina Panthers ( Round 5 ) 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...the old fart just turned 66 on Tuesday....got "more damn potholes than the famed cross country route".......had several WD-40's on the rocks to feel younger......belated b-day bear hug works.... Happy belated big guy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Just now, Buffalo716 said: My Prediction: Tyree to Carolina Panthers ( Round 5 ) ....so then we could see him in Bflo NEXT year?....just askin'....... 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: My Prediction: Tyree to Carolina Panthers ( Round 5 ) Happy belated big guy ? ...thanks bud...MUCH appreciated...........damn I'm old.....just ONE SB before I head to "Hell's Kitchen".........PLEASE...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 ...isn't he a larger "one read and run" type ala Jackson?......why we we even bother if that's close?........... or did I miss the memo?.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 49 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....so then we could see him in Bflo NEXT year?....just askin'....... ...thanks bud...MUCH appreciated...........damn I'm old.....just ONE SB before I head to "Hell's Kitchen".........PLEASE...... I hear ya.... make it 2 or 3 tho... you deserve it ? 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...isn't he a larger "one read and run" type ala Jackson?......why we we even bother if that's close?........... or did I miss the memo?.......... Who are you talkin bout bud? This thread is about Tyree Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Let me ask a question: if Tyree Jackson DIDN'T play for UB, would people still be pounding the table as hard as they are for him to be drafted in the 6th or 7th to "sit behind Allen and Barkley to develop?" If he didn't play for UB, I probably wouldn't even know who he is. I don't spend much time watching MAC football or tracking MAC players. Because he DID play for UB and the UB team was relevant the last couple of years, I saw him play several times and was able to develop an opinion that he is a raw but talented player who could be groomed to be a solid NFL backup. He's seem to fit best in an offense designed for a tall, athletic QB with a strong arm who can run well, but might not have the greatest accuracy in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I hear ya.... make it 2 or 3 tho... you deserve it ? Who are you talkin bout bud? This thread is about Tyree Jackson ...my apology...Tyree vs Lamar.....zero similarities?....some?...a few?...need your expertise here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...my apology...Tyree vs Lamar.....zero similarities?....some?...a few?...need your expertise here..... Honestly not many. Tyree is super unpolished... his mechanics are a mess.... BUT he does look to throw first now AND he is the biggest QB ever at the combine... and he has athleticism to boot... THAT TURNED HEADS He has the biggest arm in the draft and can improvise, throw on the run and create... at 6’7 250 A more realistic comparison to me would be a Colin Kaepernick ... Colin a touch faster with better short accuracy... Jackson bigger with a better deep ball Coaches always think they can correct the mechanical flaws and such... you can’t teach 6’7 250 with those legs Edited April 12, 2019 by Buffalo716 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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