Operation Boomerang AG Barr's Investigation of Acts of Treason by Federal Employees

[Deranged Rhino]

18 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

I will add that the corruption involved in the investigation and selective and aggressive prosecution of Roger Stone is far more egregious than anything Roger Stone may have done.

 

Yup. 

 

Stone is unequivocally an #######. He's the #######'s ####### in fact ... But it's not illegal to be an ####### in this country. 

[Rob's House]

7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Yup. 

 

Stone is unequivocally an #######. He's the #######'s ####### in fact ... But it's not illegal to be an ####### in this country. 

 

I was vaguely familiar with him before he got smacked with all this bull *****, but I don't really know much about him.

 

What's the knock on him?

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, Rob's House said:

 

I was vaguely familiar with him before he got smacked with all this bull *****, but I don't really know much about him.

 

What's the knock on him?

 

I was the in the same camp before the whole Russia thing. Essentially he's a guy who's made a living pretending to have more access and pull than he actually does. Which is ironic considering that's what did him in here (talking up access to Wikileaks and Assange which he actually never had, he was going by public news stories not inside access). 

[SoCal Deek]

6 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I was the in the same camp before the whole Russia thing. Essentially he's a guy who's made a living pretending to have more access and pull than he actually does. Which is ironic considering that's what did him in here (talking up access to Wikileaks and Assange which he actually never had, he was going by public news stories not inside access). 

But that describes almost EVERYONE on the Internet! Guess we’re all going to jail. (Good thing there’s no bail system anymore.)

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

6 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I was the in the same camp before the whole Russia thing. Essentially he's a guy who's made a living pretending to have more access and pull than he actually does. Which is ironic considering that's what did him in here (talking up access to Wikileaks and Assange which he actually never had, he was going by public news stories not inside access). 

A rich man's Kato Kaelin? 

[Bob in Mich]

12 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

Jesus, Bob, if you’re truly “left leaning”, how can you support a tyrannical govt agency attempting to pulverize a citizen with selective leaks, swat team raids on sleeping old dudes who pose no flight risk, and the crushing weight of a wildly inappropriate recommended sentence that’s disproportionate with every other happenstance over the past three or four years?  I think you have gone plum loco Esse. 
 

 

Len, pardon me if I don't shed tears for Stone because he got arrested outside of normal business hours, with a knock on his door.  In Michigan, to arrest people suspected of basement cannabis gardens during the early days of medical marijuana, law enforcement swat teams routinely arrested non-violent, non-flight-risk elderly folks, by kicking in their doors in the middle of the night, sometimes shooting their pet dogs, at times using concussion grenades, and at times shooting the startled homeowners who came to investigate the intrusion.   As is a popular refrain around here....I didn't hear you complaining then.    Not that I would have expected you to.  I just wanted to use it    lol

 

You don't like our justice system that punishes and pressures defendants for cooperation, that is fine but let's agree that is the way they have always worked.  You don't like swat teams going on 'practice raids', endangering the accused for no logical reason?  I agree.  To claim that the Stone arrest was highly unusual and that everyone is just picking on Don and his friends though, is just misleading

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/20/judge-delays-roger-stones-sentencing-until-feb-20-088813

 

from the article

A jury convicted Stone in November on seven felony counts of lying to investigators, obstructing a congressional probe and witness tampering — crimes that carry a maximum sentence of 50 years in prison.

 

[Warren Zevon]

9 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I was the in the same camp before the whole Russia thing. 

 

Is that the camp where you learned about Soleimani's death in 2015?

 

Camp Moron Mountain

[Bob in Mich]

10 hours ago, Rob's House said:

 

No personal animosity, just shooting straight.

 

Perhaps I should have said "you guys" instead of "you." For all I know you were outraged by the DOJ covering for Hillary. If I had to bet I'd sooner place a wager on Rush Limbaugh winning an NAACP image award, but who knows.

 

I will say that your insinuation that the President publicly tweeting his disapproval of an outrageous miscarriage of justice against a civilian who did nothing of consequence but is being railroaded for no legitimate reason is even in the same ballpark as, much less worse than, the DOJ secretly conspiring to run cover for the Secretary of State who was caught knowingly compromising national security for nefarious purposes and then lied and destroyed evidence to cover it up is ... well, I don't really have to say what it is. It speaks for itself.

 

I will add that the corruption involved in the investigation and selective and aggressive prosecution of Roger Stone is far more egregious than anything Roger Stone may have done.

 

Rob, I have been saying that this WH interference with Judiciary is way more open, obvious, and provable than the 2016 tarmac pressure.  The tarmac incident was suspicious but essentially unproven even after an investigation in which Lynch testified under oath.  Folks, such as yourself, have been countering by saying that the Clinton misdeeds were way worse than Stone's.  That question has importance but conveniently skates past the point of the WH interference....if you didn't like the appearance of WH interference in 2016, how can you overlook Trump's much more obvious interference now?

 

Not you personally but while I am on my soapbox, that logic is used here all the time.  Trump does something that the left claims is 'bad'.  Trump supporters defend him by pointing to some past administration action that they thought was similar and wrong.  Then they claim that Trump doing it is now is just fine.  Why wrong then but OK now?

 

Also, wasn't there a recent report that essentially said the Hillary email mistakes were not as intentional or egregious as you implied?  Here is a politico article

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/18/state-department-hillary-clinton-emails-051380

 

[GG]

6 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

Rob, I have been saying that this WH interference with Judiciary is way more open, obvious, and provable than the 2016 tarmac pressure.  The tarmac incident was suspicious but essentially unproven even after an investigation in which Lynch testified under oath.  Folks, such as yourself, have been countering by saying that the Clinton misdeeds were way worse than Stone's.  That question has importance but conveniently skates past the point of the WH interference....if you didn't like the appearance of WH interference in 2016, how can you overlook Trump's much more obvious interference now?

 

Not you personally but while I am on my soapbox, that logic is used here all the time.  Trump does something that the left claims is 'bad'.  Trump supporters defend him by pointing to some past administration action that they thought was similar and wrong.  Then they claim that Trump doing it is now is just fine.  Why wrong then but OK now?

 

Also, wasn't there a recent report that essentially said the Hillary email mistakes were not as intentional or egregious as you implied?  Here is a politico article

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/18/state-department-hillary-clinton-emails-051380

 

Did you really just write this?    Do you understand any topics in which you decide to participate?   Do you again wonder why you are considered a joke?

[3rdnlng]

Bob & Gary sitting in a tree....................................

[Bob in Mich]

2 minutes ago, GG said:

Did you really just write this?    Do you understand any topics in which you decide to participate?   Do you again wonder why you are considered a joke?

 

Yes, yes, no. 

 

I consider the source when I am criticized around here.  More specifically, your criticism typically does not faze me.  

 

I always ask for what specifically was so off base and seldom hear back.  You want to elaborate on your claim that I am not understanding this issue, then please do.  I suspect that you have nothing, but what, where does my reply demonstrate lack of understanding?

[GG]

1 minute ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

Yes, yes, no. 

 

I consider the source when I am criticized around here.  More specifically, your criticism typically does not faze me.  

 

I always ask for what specifically was so off base and seldom hear back.  You want to elaborate on your claim that I am not understanding this issue, then please do.  I suspect that you have nothing, but what, where does my reply demonstrate lack of understanding?

 

Where did the WH interfere with the Judiciary branch?

[Westside]

3 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Where did the WH interfere with the Judiciary branch?

They didn't interfere, Bob doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. 

[BuffaloHokie13]

4 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Where did the WH interfere with the Judiciary branch?

When he appointed conservatives. Duh!

[Warren Zevon]

15 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Bob & Gary sitting in a tree....................................

 

Smokin' some tree while you narc, boomer

[Koko78]

9 minutes ago, GG said:

Where did the WH interfere with the Judiciary branch?

 

When Trump tweeted that mean thing, obviously!

[Bob in Mich]

9 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Where did the WH interfere with the Judiciary branch?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/02/12/trump-stone-judge/

 

The tweets and his statements to the press are his attempt to influence the Stone sentencing.  If you missed that, check out this article

[Buffalo_Gal]

On 2/11/2020 at 8:55 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

  

 

 

 

Offense DEFINITELY has the ball: 

 

1. Liu was picked to help clean up the DC office -- but wound up helping/arming Mueller's leftovers instead. 

2. Liu was lured away from that job with a job at Treasury

3. Liue quits her job to prepare for her confirmation hearing

4. Barr appoints O'Shea to take his place

5. Trump withdraws her nomination -- Liu problem solved. 

6. As soon as O'Shea is installed, the Mueller holdovers quit and the Stone sentencing blows up. 

7. Barr and Trump just nuked the DC office, the one that Brennan, Comey, and others were using against the administration --

... and the very same office Barr would need control of to successfully prosecute Brennan, Comey and more... 

 

 

She's gone:

Jessie Liu resigns from Treasury after pulled nomination

 

[GG]

9 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/02/12/trump-stone-judge/

 

The tweets and his statements to the press are his attempt to influence the Stone sentencing.  If you missed that, check out this article

 

Sending out a Tweet after a verdict is handed down is interfering with the Judiciary?  And that's the same as a highly influential private citizen meeting with the head prosecutor who was in the middle of an investigation of his wife?  

[Nanker]

Just shaddup!!!

ORANGEMANBAD!

ORANGEMANBAD!!

ORANGEMANBAD!!!

ORANGEMANBAD!!!!

[Deranged Rhino]

2 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Sending out a Tweet after a verdict is handed down is interfering with the Judiciary?  And that's the same as a highly influential private citizen meeting with the head prosecutor who was in the middle of an investigation of his wife?  

 

Sending out a Tweet after a verdict has been rendered and after the DOJ already decided to take action independently from Trump to remedy the sentencing request. 

 

But if Bob knew facts and details about the topics he opined on, he'd be informed. Alas, he's uninformed and seemingly dedicated to proving that with everything he posts. 

[Koko78]

17 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/02/12/trump-stone-judge/

 

The tweets and his statements to the press are his attempt to influence the Stone sentencing.  If you missed that, check out this article

 

If a federal judge with lifetime tenure can be influenced by a tweet, then they really shouldn't be a judge.

[Deranged Rhino]

Video thread -- Nunes interview, worth the time: 

(more clips in the thread)

 

[Warren Zevon]

6 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

If a federal judge with lifetime tenure can be influenced by a tweet, then they really shouldn't be a judge.

 

Tweets are official statements of the president per the DOJ. It's not crazy to think a federal judge with lifetime tenure could be influenced by an official statement of the president - especially when that statement specifically criticizes the judge. 

 

Will she be influenced? We should hope not.

Edited February 13, 2020 by Gary Busey

[Deranged Rhino]

Yes. Yes it is crazy to think that. 

[Warren Zevon]

Judge could be influenced - CrAzY tO tHiNk AbOuT

 

QANON - It's happening! WWG1WGA

[Bob in Mich]

15 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Sending out a Tweet after a verdict is handed down is interfering with the Judiciary?  And that's the same as a highly influential private citizen meeting with the head prosecutor who was in the middle of an investigation of his wife?  

 

Yeah, we are just going to have to agree to disagree.  I agree that we should try to see reality rather than trying to bend it.  You disagree apparently. 

 

Gotta go. Thx.    Have a good day!

[KRC]

13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Sending out a Tweet after a verdict has been rendered and after the DOJ already decided to take action independently from Trump to remedy the sentencing request. 

 

That is the timeline that people are conveniently ignoring. The DOJ already made their decision BEFORE Trump tweeted anything. How can he influence something that already was decided, especially if they are in agreement?

[Bob in Mich]

14 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

If a federal judge with lifetime tenure can be influenced by a tweet, then they really shouldn't be a judge.

Gotta run so don't invest too much in a reply......

 

Similar to the point I just made to GG, a valid point but basically immaterial as to whether Trump was attempting to interfere in sentencing

[Deranged Rhino]

3 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

 I agree that we should try to see reality rather than trying to bend it. 

 

Says the guy who still believes that there was Russian collusion, despite Mueller's report, the Senate report, multiple House reports all saying otherwise. 

4 minutes ago, KRC said:

 

That is the timeline that people are conveniently ignoring. The DOJ already made their decision BEFORE Trump tweeted anything. How can he influence something that already was decided, especially if they are in agreement?

 

And there's a paper trail with time stamps to prove it  

 

 

[GG]

5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Says the guy who still believes that there was Russian collusion, despite Mueller's report, the Senate report, multiple House reports all saying otherwise. 

 

And there's a paper trail with time stamps to prove it  

 

 

 

All it means is that Trump stepped on his dick once again with a premature Tweet.  All he had to do is wait a few hours for Barr's actions to publicly percolate through the system.

 

But, Bobs of the world don't understand chronology.

Edited February 13, 2020 by GG

[Warren Zevon]

9 minutes ago, KRC said:

 

That is the timeline that people are conveniently ignoring. The DOJ already made their decision BEFORE Trump tweeted anything. How can he influence something that already was decided, especially if they are in agreement?

 

Honestly haven't been paying much attention to this - has there been any confirmation of the bolded other than the CBS report from an unnamed DOJ source? 

[Deranged Rhino]

2 minutes ago, GG said:

But, Bobs of the world don't understand chronology.

 

Or the realities of what they're asking for: case in point --

 

 

Of course, to someone like Gary and  @Bob in Mich, the FISA abuse -- which is proven beyond question -- is fiction. A "conspiracy theory" without merit. Meanwhile, he continues to believe, push, and spread to an actual conspiracy theory, devoid of evidence (Trump/Russia collusion).

 

Because the Gary's and Bob's of the world are dolts. Useless idiots, programmed by their "betters" in the media to do their propagandizing without question or thought. 

 

(For more evidence of that last sentence, look one post above.)

[Warren Zevon]

Show me the facts related to the timeline - If what you claim is fact (DOJ made decision before Trump tweet) we will agree

 

The only place I have seen that is from Catherine Herridge citing an unnamed DOJ source

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

Len, pardon me if I don't shed tears for Stone because he got arrested outside of normal business hours, with a knock on his door.  In Michigan, to arrest people suspected of basement cannabis gardens during the early days of medical marijuana, law enforcement swat teams routinely arrested non-violent, non-flight-risk elderly folks, by kicking in their doors in the middle of the night, sometimes shooting their pet dogs, at times using concussion grenades, and at times shooting the startled homeowners who came to investigate the intrusion.   As is a popular refrain around here....I didn't hear you complaining then.    Not that I would have expected you to.  I just wanted to use it    lol

 

You don't like our justice system that punishes and pressures defendants for cooperation, that is fine but let's agree that is the way they have always worked.  You don't like swat teams going on 'practice raids', endangering the accused for no logical reason?  I agree.  To claim that the Stone arrest was highly unusual and that everyone is just picking on Don and his friends though, is just misleading

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/20/judge-delays-roger-stones-sentencing-until-feb-20-088813

 

from the article

A jury convicted Stone in November on seven felony counts of lying to investigators, obstructing a congressional probe and witness tampering — crimes that carry a maximum sentence of 50 years in prison.

 

I was going under the impression you were center left. Rationalizing overly aggressive tactics and unreasonable sentencing guidelines because someone else was terrorized seems much more extreme left (or extreme right) than center left or right. 

 

Let me say this, Bobercrombie and Fitch, I can't speak to the Jamiacan Marihooch dispensaries in Grove's Point, but I'd be surprised if the situation was even remotely the same.  I'd think underground Reefer Plantations would be raided without warning, that the occupants might well be armed against all manner of predators, and that they likely did not know they were about to be charged.  

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Yup. 

 

They are setting the shirts they're wearing on fire in order to get rid of the wrinkles. 

Just now, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I was going under the impression you were center left.

 

Bob is whatever the TV tells him to be that day.

 

He has no principles, or underlying philosophies that guide his opinions. 

[Deranged Rhino]

Oops. 

 

[Rob's House]

14 hours ago, mead107 said:

What happened to DC Tom? 

 

Apparently he just dipped out of the blue. I don't think there's any backstory that's made its way into the pages of the board.

 

However, if you look and know what to look for you can still find his musings in other corners of the interwebs.

[BillsFanNC]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Or the realities of what they're asking for: case in point --

 

 

Of course, to someone like Gary and  @Bob in Mich, the FISA abuse -- which is proven beyond question -- is fiction. A "conspiracy theory" without merit. Meanwhile, he continues to believe, push, and spread to an actual conspiracy theory, devoid of evidence (Trump/Russia collusion).

 

Because the Gary's and Bob's of the world are dolts. Useless idiots, programmed by their "betters" in the media to do their propagandizing without question or thought. 

 

(For more evidence of that last sentence, look one post above.)

 

That it has been indeed.  If a poster can't even acknowledge that basic truth at this point, then further discussion on any topics that stem from it is totally pointless.  

[Taro T]

30 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Oops. 

 

 

Truly amazing.  These TDS suffering, oppose 45 at all cost, foot soldiers manage to make a world class arse like Roger Stone into a figure that seemingly deserves our sympathy.