Virgil Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 If we are willing to pay a guy and put up with the Prima Donna attitude, why not reach out to the Giants too about OBJ? For the record, I don’t want either douchebags on the team. However, if you’re down with the sickness, OBJ is a performer, already has the deal, and the Giants are open for business. If this belongs in another threads, please move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 The Giants are going to want much more in compensation than the Steelers did, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 OBJ hasn't publicly demanded a trade and he's younger. The asking price would start with a #1 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I would be calling Giants and ATL and CIN to see what the prices are 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Because clearly Beane and McDermott don’t think you need to have a No 1 receiver... Weren’t they just saying that a week or two back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 OBJ will command a 1st rd pick and some where AB at 31 years old would only cost us a 2nd and a 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: I would be calling Giants and ATL and CIN to see what the prices are I would love AJ, but I just don’t see it happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: I would be calling Giants and ATL and CIN to see what the prices are How do you know they havent? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: I would be calling Giants and ATL and CIN to see what the prices are None of those dudes have requested trades. AB was the star with the cheapest trade cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) I think Beane was ok swapping 1sts or giving up later picks for Brown. An OBJ trade deal would start with Pick #9. Edited March 8, 2019 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, BringBackOrton said: None of those dudes have requested trades. AB was the star with the cheapest trade cost. Point. OBJ would have cost on a rebuilding team maybe it would be a first. Doubt it though Green would not be a 1st Julio I dont think would be a first either. Most expensive likely would be OBJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Because clearly Beane and McDermott don’t think you need to have a No 1 receiver... Weren’t they just saying that a week or two back? Lol, as they were quietly trying to reel in AB. If this isn't enough to teach you to ignore everything out of coachs' and gm's mouths, i don't know what is. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I think the Giants are hellbent on keeping OBJ. Not sure why trade speculation keeps coming up. They're pretty tolerant with the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: Point. OBJ would have cost on a rebuilding team maybe it would be a first. Doubt it though Green would not be a 1st Julio I dont think would be a first either. Most expensive likely would be OBJ Didn't they just rework Julio's contract for more short term money in ATL? What's stopping him from demanding the same thing from Buffalo that AB did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: Didn't they just rework Julio's contract for more short term money in ATL? What's stopping him from demanding the same thing from Buffalo that AB did? Who cares, does that make you not make the call? OBD has a value they would put on Julio, if his demands are within that value bring him on. TBH OBD would be naive to think they are going into the trade market and NOT think a nice big deal is going to b part of the trade. Guess what we have a TON of money so why not, what would be the issue with a nice new three year front loaded deal on these WRs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I don't want anybody that doesn't want to be here. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: Who cares, does that make you not make the call? OBD has a value they would put on Julio, if his demands are within that value bring him on. TBH OBD would be naive to think they are going into the trade market and NOT think a nice big deal is going to b part of the trade. Guess what we have a TON of money so why not, what would be the issue with a nice new three year front loaded deal on these WRs? Maybe you should ask our GM, who balked at that for AB, who cost less in trade compensation than all of those guys, except maybe AJ. Just now, DefenseWins said: I don't want anybody that doesn't want to be here. Then you want a team filled with journeymen, backups, and CFL rejects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: Lol, as they were quietly trying to reel in AB. If this isn't enough to teach you to ignore everything out of coachs' and gm's mouths, i don't know what is. I agree completely.... but some people hang on every word they say as gospel.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Maybe you should ask our GM, who balked at that for AB, who cost less in trade compensation than all of those guys, except maybe AJ. Then you want a team filled with journeymen, backups, and CFL rejects. Also AB comes with a TON more baggage than ANY of the WRs i mentioned, which also might now have the Bills willing to lay out the financial risk. Or at the end of the day the Bills also could have just got used for leverage against the Raiders Edited March 8, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I agree completely.... but some people hang on every word they say as gospel.. Mouth breathers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Also AB comes with a TON more baggage than ANY of the WRs i mentioned, which also might now have the Bills willing to lay out the financial risk Baggage versus a first round pick. Decisions, decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, BringBackOrton said: Baggage versus a first round pick. Decisions, decisions. Where are you getting the 1st round pick. That isnt the compensation rumored with AB. I also do not think that is what it will take to get OBJ, Green or Jones either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Where are you getting the 1st round pick. That isnt the compensation rumored with AB. I also do not think that is what it will take to get OBJ, Green or Jones either Well we just disagree. For some of the most talented playmakers in the NFL, who are bonafide superstars, I would bet that you aren't prying away Julio or OBJ for less. I'm saying that AB's compensation would be less than that because of his baggage. That makes it a tradeoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Also AB comes with a TON more baggage than ANY of the WRs i mentioned, which also might now have the Bills willing to lay out the financial risk. Or at the end of the day the Bills also could have just got used for leverage against the Raiders Believe it or not, I actually agree with MAJBobby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Well we just disagree. For some of the most talented playmakers in the NFL, who are bonafide superstars, I would bet that you aren't prying away Julio or OBJ for less. I'm saying that AB's compensation would be less than that because of his baggage. That makes it a tradeoff. Jones 30 - INJ history will not draw a 1st Green 30 - INJ History will not draw a 1st. OBJ - HMM the youngest of the bunch. So what do I think keeps him from netting a 1st. Contract, Offfield antics, INJ history, Snapchat video with a nice white substance. Edited March 8, 2019 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Jones 30 - INJ history will not draw a 1st Green 30 - INJ History will not draw a 1st. OBJ - HMM the youngest of the bunch. So what do I think keeps him from netting a 1st. Contract, Offfield antics, INJ history, Snapchat video with a nice white substance. Well I guess you can't prove that so we'll agree to disagree. Apparently Atlanta wasn't willing to part with Julio last year with his "injury history." Then again, most NFL people don't consider missing 3 games in 5 seasons a significant injury history either. That's like .25 Sammy Watkinses. Edited March 8, 2019 by BringBackOrton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, BringBackOrton said: Well I guess you can't prove that so we'll agree to disagree. Apparently Atlanta wasn't willing to part with Julio last year with his "injury history." Then again, most NFL people don't consider missing 3 games in 4 seasons a significant injury history either. How often does ANY player move at the trade deadline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: How often does ANY player move at the trade deadline? Uh, this was in the offseason. Not the deadline. Care to comment on the dangerous health concerns of Julio that you were convinced were gonna drop his trade value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Uh, this was in the offseason. Not the deadline. Care to comment on the dangerous health concerns of Julio that you were convinced were gonna drop his trade value? Sure I am pretty sure his hip came back to get hurt again in December And once again like last year no talks on his extension, and with Calvin Ridley emergence yep could move him for less than a 1st Edited March 8, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: Sure https://sportsinjurypredictor.com/player/julio-jones/4692 Lol. So OBJ who has missed 16 games in last two seasons is less of an injury risk than Julio who has missed 3 games in the last 5 seasons? The guy who has 1300 yards in the last two years is less of a concern than the guy who had 3000 in that same span? Why don't you take a second to review the facts before you spout off on what the asking prices will be? 20 minutes ago, vorpma said: Believe it or not, I actually agree with MAJBobby! Unfortunately, you picked the absolute wrong time to do so. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: Lol. So OBJ who has missed 16 games in last two seasons is less of an injury risk than Julio who has missed 3 games in the last 5 seasons? The guy who has 1300 yards in the last two years is less of a concern than the guy who had 3000 in that same span? Why don't you take a second to review the facts before you spout off on what the asking prices will be? Unfortunately, you picked the absolute wrong time to do so. Says you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I would rather focus on O-Line in FA and the draft and pick a WR in the 2nd or 3rd rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 No thanks. Not another primadonna headcase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, BringBackOrton said: Lol. So OBJ who has missed 16 games in last two seasons is less of an injury risk than Julio who has missed 3 games in the last 5 seasons? The guy who has 1300 yards in the last two years is less of a concern than the guy who had 3000 in that same span? Why don't you take a second to review the facts before you spout off on what the asking prices will be? Unfortunately, you picked the absolute wrong time to do so. 25 vs 30. now did you see ummm where I put OBJ Hammys as well. Look you have your thought that these three WRs will get major compensation. I have mine that they wont. Not that said I would almost could be talked into giving 9th overall up for OBJ and our 2nds for Either Green or Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 There is something seriously wrong with NFL receivers in this league. The best are psychos There not sleeping in my HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: 25 vs 30. now did you see ummm where I put OBJ Hammys as well. Look you have your thought that these three WRs will get major compensation. I have mine that they wont. Not that said I would almost could be talked into giving 9th overall up for OBJ and our 2nds for Either Green or Jones Apparently not because of the bolded. YOU don't even remember the hammy! Oh and as for your sneaky edit: 12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Sure I am pretty sure his hip came back to get hurt again in December And once again like last year no talks on his extension, and with Calvin Ridley emergence yep could move him for less than a 1st THEY JUST REWORKED HIS CONTRACT LAST OFFSEASON. You don't even know what you're talking about! Oh and Calvin Ridley's "emergence" as a guy who started 5 games last year and got half the yards from scrimmage that Julio did has suddenly made him expendable?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 If they make an offer, I sure as heck hope it doesn't go public because I don't think OBJ would play here either. I'm just trying to be realistic. That would be a double whammy PR nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy84 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: I would be calling Giants and ATL and CIN to see what the prices are My thoughts exactly, and I believe they will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just draft our own guy in the 1st so he can work his a** off to be able to spout the ego that AB or OBJ have. Younger and cheaper and would take a few years before becoming a total dick like those other Primadonna WR's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: I think the Giants are hellbent on keeping OBJ. Not sure why trade speculation keeps coming up. They're pretty tolerant with the guy. Agreed. Gettleman has said on multiple occasions that he' didn't sign OBJ just to turn around and trade him. He also committed to Eli publicly recently. Last year he tried to rebuild the OL (with so-so results) and today he traded for an OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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