D'haquille aka Duke Williams, Bills' newest WR better than any draft prospect

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

17 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

As Yolo says.........Overdorf is actually well respected for his contract work.......the truth nobody wants to hear is that the cap situation wasn't really that bad........it was a talented veteran team it wasn't going to be $80M over the cap in the offseason.

 

The one terrible contract was the Dareus deal..........and not because of the AAV.....to that point in his career he had been a monster DT against the run and the pass.   An All Pro by definition.    The issue was the lack of language to protect the team in the event of another suspension.    The Pegula's meddled in that deal to get it done and appease their buddy Todd France.   If there had been a GM in place to draw a line on value vs risk..... like Beane.......that kind of deal doesn't happen without a conduct clause.   

 

I've been critical of both Whaley and Beane for their individual failings but the lengths people go to trash Whaley and over-prop Beane are a bit ridiculous. 

 

...Whaley had his faults, but they ALL do........McBeane has had some head scratching gaffes which have been discussed numerous times....I'm not even sure what Whaley's horsepower was and we'll never know factually IMO...was he a bonafide "in charge GM"?......or was he GM in title but being directed as a "personnel gopher" as in this is what/who we want, go find him/them?......McBeane is in my opinion a bonafide "in charge GM".....as I said elsewhere, poster MAGOX wrote the BEST assessment I've seen to date......he analyzed certain aspects of McBeane's job performance to date and graded them accordingly.......and his final grade was: INCOMPLETE as in "now show me RESULTS between the white stripes"......

Edited April 6, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[Shaw66]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

He didn’t choose Buffalo because of the fit. He chose Buffalo because he has a shot to make the roster. Let’s be real...

I think he chose Buffalo because of McDermott.   

 

He's kind of like a recovering alcoholic.  He knows he needs a supportive environment.   He knows that absolute hard work and dedication to his job is what he needs to stay away from the world that has caused him so much trouble.   And he knows that McDermott preaches that ethic.  So I think he's in Buffalo because he saw in McDermott the perfect combination of football coach and personal counselor.  He's going to run through walls for McDermott.  

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, Shaw66 said:

I think he chose Buffalo because of McDermott.   

 

He's kind of like a recovering alcoholic.  He knows he needs a supportive environment.   He knows that absolute hard work and dedication to his job is what he needs to stay away from the world that has caused him so much trouble.   And he knows that McDermott preaches that ethic.  So I think he's in Buffalo because he saw in McDermott the perfect combination of football coach and personal counselor.  He's going to run through walls for McDermott.  

Maybe. Or maybe he thought that we had one if he worst receiving groups in the nfl.  No disrespect but I think some fans overrate how much players care about their coach.  A guy like Duke just wants a chance to play in the nfl and get a nfl paycheck. 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, Shaw66 said:

I think he chose Buffalo because of McDermott.   

 

He's kind of like a recovering alcoholic.  He knows he needs a supportive environment.   He knows that absolute hard work and dedication to his job is what he needs to stay away from the world that has caused him so much trouble.   And he knows that McDermott preaches that ethic.  So I think he's in Buffalo because he saw in McDermott the perfect combination of football coach and personal counselor.  He's going to run through walls for McDermott.  

I’m not buying that (no offense). Duke is a guy that didn’t make it in the NFL. He went to the CFL and played well. He is getting another chance. He went to the team with the worst WR depth chart in the league. It was an easy decision. 

[BADOLBILZ]

27 minutes ago, TigerJ said:

I look at Duke Williams as a Cam Phillips type receiver who is 4 inches taller.  That four inches is important and is the reason why Williams might make the roster (other than his last name) and Cam Phillips won't.  

 

 

I look at him as a stronger Andre Holmes.   

 

Holmes wasn't good when the Bills got him........ but with his great size it was a fine line between being a guy who could put up 700 yards running mostly go routes or the guy who could only pitch in a contested grab now and then and play good special teams.

 

If he shows the kind of "get open" that Cam Phillips has that will be a pleasant surprise to me.

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

On 2/6/2019 at 5:01 PM, Boca BIlls said:

He also hasnt faced NFL CB's you are correct.

 

I’m sure he did at Auburn 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I think he chose Buffalo because of McDermott.   

 

He's kind of like a recovering alcoholic.  He knows he needs a supportive environment.   He knows that absolute hard work and dedication to his job is what he needs to stay away from the world that has caused him so much trouble.   And he knows that McDermott preaches that ethic.  So I think he's in Buffalo because he saw in McDermott the perfect combination of football coach and personal counselor.  He's going to run through walls for McDermott.  

 

...absolutely agree.....dismissed from Auburn and signs with Rams as UDFA only to be cut.....perseveres and goes to CFL where he seems to have worked hard and cleaned it up....certainly has to know that McDermott probably has given him his last chance at the NFL......McDermott skillfully gave Foster his wake up call and he responded.....hope Duke does the same....sad that some of the expert TBD posters have already determined he is "nothing but camp fodder"......

7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’m not buying that (no offense). Duke is a guy that didn’t make it in the NFL. He went to the CFL and played well. He is getting another chance. He went to the team with the worst WR depth chart in the league. It was an easy decision. 

 

 

...um ok.......that MUST be it.....SMH.............

[Kirby Jackson]

6 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...absolutely agree.....dismissed from Auburn and signs with Rams as UDFA only to be cut.....perseveres and goes to CFL where he seems to have worked hard and cleaned it up....certainly has to know that McDermott probably has given him his last chance at the NFL......McDermott skillfully gave Foster his wake up call and he responded.....hope Duke does the same....sad that some of the expert TBD posters have already determined he is "nothing but camp fodder"......

 

 

...um ok.......that MUST be it.....SMH.............

Do we really think that it isn’t? It doesn’t mean that he can’t carve out an NFL career (which is what he’s trying to do). He did what ANYONE with a brain would do and went to the place that he was most likely to make the team. This really isn’t complicated

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I look at the WRs as

Brown

Zay

Cole

Foster

Mckenzie

Roberts

 

meaning: no room for another guy

 

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I look at the WRs as

Brown

Zay

Cole

Foster

Mckenzie

Roberts

 

meaning: no room for another guy

 

Not sure if that’s sarcasm? At any rate, Roberts won’t play much as a WR and McKenzie is fighting for a roster spot. The spot on the Bills is at the top of the depth chart. That’s why they’ll be taking a guy in the 1st 3 rounds. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Do we really think that it isn’t? It doesn’t mean that he can’t carve out an NFL career (which is what he’s trying to do). He did what ANYONE with a brain would do and went to the place that he was most likely to make the team. This really isn’t complicated

 

 

....my lowly posts emanate from the "bowels of the TBD basement" only to admire those far superior with a better brain...my apology..........

[Shaw66]

22 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Maybe. Or maybe he thought that we had one if he worst receiving groups in the nfl.  No disrespect but I think some fans overrate how much players care about their coach.  A guy like Duke just wants a chance to play in the nfl and get a nfl paycheck. 

No doubt, the absence of receiver talent was important.  He knows he isn't going to get a lot of shots at the NFL, so he wanted to go somewhere where he could stick. 

 

But when you read about his past and what he says about it, I think he was looking for an emotional fit much more than the average player might.  Frankly, he probably also viewed as a plus the low key lifestyle of Buffalo compared to New Orleans or LA or New York.  He sounds like a guy who is genuinely committed to staying out of the 'hood.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Not sure if that’s sarcasm? At any rate, Roberts won’t play much as a WR and McKenzie is fighting for a roster spot. The spot on the Bills is at the top of the depth chart. That’s why they’ll be taking a guy in the 1st 3 rounds. 

Not sarcasm at all. I don’t think we will draft a WR early now. I think we have a good group. I do think we will take a TE early and I do think that it’s the right move. My meaning of the no room was about the training camp fodder level guy that this thread was about. Not to say that we CANT add a top level WR somewhere in the draft. I’m just not expecting any WR other then the ones I named to be on the team. Roberts is an elite level return man and will absolutely be one of the WRs. The STs guy still counts.

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Not sure if that’s sarcasm? At any rate, Roberts won’t play much as a WR and McKenzie is fighting for a roster spot. The spot on the Bills is at the top of the depth chart. That’s why they’ll be taking a guy in the 1st 3 rounds. 

 

I’m betting they don’t take a wide receiver early in the draft.  They signed Brown and Beasley to be the two of the top three wide receivers on the team. They see what they have in Foster so he’s probably the other starter. They have no idea what they have in Duke Williams so I don’t see why they would add a top pick at wide receiver who won’t be getting a whole lot of reps. 

[Shaw66]

26 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’m not buying that (no offense). Duke is a guy that didn’t make it in the NFL. He went to the CFL and played well. He is getting another chance. He went to the team with the worst WR depth chart in the league. It was an easy decision. 

I think he is a guy who got religion, if not literally, figuratively.   Or dealt with alcoholism.  He went to Canada with a renewed commitment to finally realize his potential after  having screwed up a few times.  You listen to his coach up there, and it sounds like that's what he did.   

 

So when he was looking at opportunities in the NFL, sure, he didn't want to have to try to beat out Robert Woods.  But as importantly, he wanted to be somewhere where he is less likely to fall off the wagon.   And that's where I'm guessing McDermott came into the equation.  I think he desperately wants to do everything right, and I think he believes he needs a leader to help him stay on that path.  

 

You gotta remember, this guy was the No. 1 receiver recruit coming out of juco.  That means, almost certainly, that one way or another he has NFL level talent.  This is a guy who has taken some serious missteps in his personal life and who, by all reports, is working very hard to put that behind and get back on the path to success as a football player.   He's McDermott's kind of guy.  

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

6 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I’m betting they don’t take a wide receiver early in the draft.  They signed Brown and Beasley to be the two of the top three wide receivers on the team. They see what they have in Foster so he’s probably the other starter. They have no idea what they have in Duke Williams so I don’t see why they would add a top pick at wide receiver who won’t be getting a whole lot of reps. 

It may however be a different kind of receiver! A TIght End perhaps?

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

8 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I’m betting they don’t take a wide receiver early in the draft.  They signed Brown and Beasley to be the two of the top three wide receivers on the team. They see what they have in Foster so he’s probably the other starter. They have no idea what they have in Duke Williams so I don’t see why they would add a top pick at wide receiver who won’t be getting a whole lot of reps. 

 

 

...agree 'Doc......still think McBeane trades down in the 1st for an extra 2nd.....if, IF one of the more heralded  WR names is slipping, he has the flexibility to pull the trigger late 2nd or 3rd...BUT....don't count on OBD's "Phil Ivey" to be tipping his hand anytime soon....same for TE spot.......

Edited April 6, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[Shaw66]

To Doc and Moorman - they're going to go BPA.  If it's a receiver, they'll take him.  

 

But I agree with fundamentally - I don't think the Bills are now thinking that they have any urgency in upgrading the outside receivers.   I think they have it covered satisfactorily with Beasley, Brown, Williams, Jones, Foster and the kick returner from the Jets.  Belichick would love to have that receiver room - in fact, we know he wanted Beasley.  

[without a drought]

Having Duke Williams will not in any way affect the Bills plans for wr in the draft.

Edited April 6, 2019 by without a drought

[Doc]

18 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

To Doc and Moorman - they're going to go BPA.  If it's a receiver, they'll take him.  

 

But I agree with fundamentally - I don't think the Bills are now thinking that they have any urgency in upgrading the outside receivers.   I think they have it covered satisfactorily with Beasley, Brown, Williams, Jones, Foster and the kick returner from the Jets.  Belichick would love to have that receiver room - in fact, we know he wanted Beasley.  

 

If that's true, then WR is out.  No one is worth 9th overall.  Metcalf is a huge gamble and not worth it.  He reminds me of Yatil Green too much. 

 

And BPA is subjective.  For example, for the Cards, Murray is BPA in the entire draft.  To other teams...not so much.

[C.Biscuit97]

36 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I’m betting they don’t take a wide receiver early in the draft.  They signed Brown and Beasley to be the two of the top three wide receivers on the team. They see what they have in Foster so he’s probably the other starter. They have no idea what they have in Duke Williams so I don’t see why they would add a top pick at wide receiver who won’t be getting a whole lot of reps. 

If they don’t take a receiver early because of Brown and Beasley, then I will lost all hope in them.  We have a roster of 3 and 4 type receivers.  If you really want to give Allen everything he needs, you don’t settle for this group we have now.  It’s still probably a bottom third group.  They need a number 1 type guy. 

41 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

No doubt, the absence of receiver talent was important.  He knows he isn't going to get a lot of shots at the NFL, so he wanted to go somewhere where he could stick. 

 

But when you read about his past and what he says about it, I think he was looking for an emotional fit much more than the average player might.  Frankly, he probably also viewed as a plus the low key lifestyle of Buffalo compared to New Orleans or LA or New York.  He sounds like a guy who is genuinely committed to staying out of the 'hood.

I’m not trying to come at you and respect your point.  I just believe that the chance to make a roster here is why he signed.  I think McDermott is a fine but average type of coach like most guys in the nfl are.  Duke not going to LA has more to do with the fact he probably won’t make those teams than living in LA or the coach. 

 

And I don’t remember but what were the other teams and offers for Williams?

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, Josh "Real Deal" Allen said:

It may however be a different kind of receiver! A TIght End perhaps?

Irv Smith Jr is a WR/TE hybrid who can be moved around in Daboll offense 

 

Fant is also a guy who can play that role 

Edited April 6, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Irv Smith Jr is a WR/TE hybrid who can be moved around in Daboll offense 

 

Fant is also a guy who can play that role 

I think it is setting up to be a TE before a WR. JMO

[Shaw66]

44 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

 

And BPA is subjective.  For example, for the Cards, Murray is BPA in the entire draft.  To other teams...not so much.

That isn't BPA.   That's a needs driven formula.  Beane has been clear that is NOT what he does.   They put a value on every player based on how good they expect him to be in the league.  They do not put any value at all on whether they need a player at a particular position.   

 

What Beane claims is that in the first couple of rounds, they take the name at the top of the their board, regardless of position.  Now, I think truth be told, if the name at the top is a QB, they might take the second name on their board.   Or they will trade down to a lower pick.  

42 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

 

I’m not trying to come at you and respect your point.  I just believe that the chance to make a roster here is why he signed.  I think McDermott is a fine but average type of coach like most guys in the nfl are.  Duke not going to LA has more to do with the fact he probably won’t make those teams than living in LA or the coach. 

 

And I don’t remember but what were the other teams and offers for Williams?

I think I'm correct, but I'll admit I'm guessing.   I think McDermott is more of personal leader and mentor than most coaches in the league.   He's a different kind of animal from Belichick.  

 

There wasn't any press about where Williams looked.  My recollection is that all of a sudden, out of the blue, it was announced that he had signed with Buffalo.   I don't recall any news about any visits, to Buffalo or otherwise.   I think Williams was flying under the news media radar.   It was known, apparently, that he had permission from his Canadian team to look for a US deal, but I never saw anything saying this guy was available.   

 

Because of his history, I'm rooting big-time for him.  He's worked hard to be a success, and this is his shot.  

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Not sarcasm at all. I don’t think we will draft a WR early now. I think we have a good group.

 

John Brown's contract is very easy to get out of after year one. I think secretly the Bills are hoping to have his replacement already on the roster after the draft. Ideally he will be a stop gap who at the very least pushes Foster to compete. I still expect us to draft a WR early. Probably not round 1 but somewhere between 2 and 4.

Edited April 6, 2019 by HappyDays

[Bookie Man]

I hope Mckenzie makes it. I like him a lot on those jet sweeps. 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Not sarcasm at all. I don’t think we will draft a WR early now. I think we have a good group. I do think we will take a TE early and I do think that it’s the right move. My meaning of the no room was about the training camp fodder level guy that this thread was about. Not to say that we CANT add a top level WR somewhere in the draft. I’m just not expecting any WR other then the ones I named to be on the team. Roberts is an elite level return man and will absolutely be one of the WRs. The STs guy still counts.

We are in agreement then. Roberts certainly counts but they COULD carry 7 if he’s one of them. That was my point there. If a guy (like Duke) earns a roster spot it isn’t necessarily at the expense of another WR.

[Shaw66]

8 minutes ago, R Y G A R said:

I hope Mckenzie makes it. I like him a lot on those jet sweeps. 

Jet sweeps are going to Andre Roberts this year.  He's a better quick returner, and probably better on the jet sweeps, too.  

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

I’m betting they don’t take a wide receiver early in the draft.  They signed Brown and Beasley to be the two of the top three wide receivers on the team. They see what they have in Foster so he’s probably the other starter. They have no idea what they have in Duke Williams so I don’t see why they would add a top pick at wide receiver who won’t be getting a whole lot of reps. 

I guess that we disagree then. I think that they are still looking for a guy at the top of the depth chart (hence the Antonio Brown conversation). I don’t picture them adding a guy to fight for reps. I picture them adding a potential #1. 

[Shaw66]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

 If a guy (like Duke) earns a roster spot it isn’t necessarily at the expense of another WR.

Actually, I think Duke is a direct threat to Jones.  Certainly his hands are better.  Jones has the better 40 time, but Jones never has struck as much of deep threat.  

 

We will see. 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

....my lowly posts emanate from the "bowels of the TBD basement" only to admire those far superior with a better brain...my apology..........

Not sure what your upset about? 

 

People are reading too much into this. He came to the Bills because that’s his best chance to make an NFL roster. When you are a FA, especially a guy that’s not in the league, your first concern is a roster spot. That’s #1 on the list of needs. There are ancillary things to consider but nothing is as important as #1. When he looked at the Bills he saw a path. He did the sensible thing. 

2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Actually, I think Duke is a direct threat to Jones.  Certainly his hands are better.  Jones has the better 40 time, but Jones never has struck as much of deep threat.  

 

We will see. 

I could see that!! Zay definitely isn’t a lock to make the team. 

[Shaw66]

4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I guess that we disagree then. I think that they are still looking for a guy at the top of the depth chart (hence the Antonio Brown conversation). I don’t picture them adding a guy to fight for reps. I picture them adding a potential #1. 

I really don't think the Bills think this way.   I think McBeane view it this way:  We've got our quarterback.   We've got our middle linebacker.  Now our job is to add talent, wherever that talent may fall on our roster.   If the BPA is a DE, great.  If he's a wideout, great.   If he's a corner, great.   If he's a guard, great.   We'll take whoever the most talented guy is, and he will make out team better.  

 

I think their philosophy is that we will fill holes in free agency, we'll add talent in the draft, and we will play with the guys we have.  

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Not sure what your upset about? 

 

People are reading too much into this. He came to the Bills because that’s his best chance to make an NFL roster. When you are a FA, especially a guy that’s not in the league, your first concern is a roster spot. That’s #1 on the list of needs. There are ancillary things to consider but nothing is as important as #1. When he looked at the Bills he saw a path. He did the sensible thing. 

......huh?...I NEVER get upset here my friend.....it is a message board with a dichotomy of OPINIONS......respect for each other is the ONLY way this place works...I offer my opinion and some agree while others do not......for those that disagree, I do not belabor my position trying to convince them otherwise...we shared, we differed and so be it.....simple...as far as Duke, what has passed is in the past....he gets a clean slate with ZERO pre-judgments.....just "show me NOW"...

Edited April 6, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[HappyDays]

11 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I really don't think the Bills think this way.   I think McBeane view it this way:  We've got our quarterback.   We've got our middle linebacker.  Now our job is to add talent, wherever that talent may fall on our roster.   If the BPA is a DE, great.  If he's a wideout, great.   If he's a corner, great.   If he's a guard, great.   We'll take whoever the most talented guy is, and he will make out team better.  

 

I think their philosophy is that we will fill holes in free agency, we'll add talent in the draft, and we will play with the guys we have.  

 

I think they identify which needs they can fill in free agency and which they should be able to fill in the draft, and they plan their whole offseason around that. I'll be shocked if our 1st round pick isn't a defensive lineman. That's the only need we didn't even try to fill in free agency. I'm sure that heading into free agency they had already identified several d-linemen that they would be comfortable drafting at pick 9, so they didn't break the bank for anyone. Don't be surprised if they trade up for an Ed Oliver or Josh Allen if he falls. When BPA matches need they aren't afraid to move up for someone. I think Beane figures you can add 3rd and 4th round talent in FA, which leaves the door open to use those picks as trade bait on game changing 1st round players.

Edited April 6, 2019 by HappyDays

[Doc]

14 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

If they don’t take a receiver early because of Brown and Beasley, then I will lost all hope in them.  We have a roster of 3 and 4 type receivers.  If you really want to give Allen everything he needs, you don’t settle for this group we have now.  It’s still probably a bottom third group.  They need a number 1 type guy.

 

I'm sure they're losing sleep over that prospect CB. 

 

The Bills brought in Brown and Beasley to be 2 of the top 3 WR's.  They're not paying them ~$9M apiece to sit the bench.  Brown started 15 of 16 games last year for the Ravens, even after Lamar Jackson became the starter, because his speed opens things up.  When it comes to the other starting spot, there is no denying that Foster showed he deserved to be starting.  So I don't know how you justify taking a wholly unproven rookie, much less in this class where there is no consensus #1 WR, and start him over Foster.

 

1 minute ago, Shaw66 said:

That isn't BPA.   That's a needs driven formula.  Beane has been clear that is NOT what he does.   They put a value on every player based on how good they expect him to be in the league.  They do not put any value at all on whether they need a player at a particular position.   

 

What Beane claims is that in the first couple of rounds, they take the name at the top of the their board, regardless of position.  Now, I think truth be told, if the name at the top is a QB, they might take the second name on their board.   Or they will trade down to a lower pick.  

 

Well if they did that then...

[TigerJ]

2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I look at the WRs as

Brown

Zay

Cole

Foster

Mckenzie

Roberts

 

meaning: no room for another guy

 

I think McKenzie will have to compete for a spot.  Duke Williams will be his direct competitor, and there may possibly be a draft pick in the competition as well.

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Josh "Real Deal" Allen said:

It may however be a different kind of receiver! A TIght End perhaps?

 

I can't see them taking a TE at 9.  I just can't.

 

26 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I guess that we disagree then. I think that they are still looking for a guy at the top of the depth chart (hence the Antonio Brown conversation). I don’t picture them adding a guy to fight for reps. I picture them adding a potential #1. 

 

They went after AB and then decided against it and signed JB and CB.  Again I can't see them taking a WR, much less in this class, anywhere on day 1 or 2.  Next year?  Maybe.

[Shaw66]

13 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

 I think Beane figures you can add 3rd and 4th round talent in FA, which leaves the door open to use those picks as trade bait on game changing 1st round players.

I don't think this is they way he thinks about it, just based on what he's said.  

 

I think he uses free agency as short-term, stop-gap measure.   I think he's looking for Matt Milanos in the 3rd, 4th and 5th rounds.   

 

I don't think he believes in chasing game changing players in the first round, not once he has his QB and MLB.   I think he's look to increase the total talent level on the team.  

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 hours ago, without a drought said:

Having Duke Williams will not in any way affect the Bills plans for wr in the draft.

...from his troubled days, UDFA selection and then cut by the Rams, kid chose the CFL to get his act together......and by most accounts, he has worked hard at it....I'm CERTAIN( opinion) that McDermott laid down the law as far as the "process" conditions of his signing....probably his LAST shot at his ultimate NFL dream......heed the warning lad just like Foster did...you'll be a helluva lot better off....good luck and "show us"....stay tuned........

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I don't think this is they way he thinks about it, just based on what he's said.  

 

I think he uses free agency as short-term, stop-gap measure.   I think he's looking for Matt Milanos in the 3rd, 4th and 5th rounds.   

 

I don't think he believes in chasing game changing players in the first round, not once he has his QB and MLB.   I think he's look to increase the total talent level on the team.  

 

I disagree.  Last year with the trade-ups for Allen and Edmunds told me he's looking for game changing talent in the 1st.