GunnerBill Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Nah. I promise you it is. Our is a bottom 3 offensive line, but Houston's is hands down the worst in football and has been for two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Why did I find myself cheering the Jets on? I'm not supposed to pull for divisional rivals. It's a thing I find fascinating about sports. I turned this game on having no rooting interest whatsoever, plus I really like Deshaun Watson, Hopkins, etc. Whatever. I think I'm hoping all the rookie QBs play well. Enjoying this changing of the guard. I'll be rooting for Baker Mayfield in a few minutes here even though I live in Colorado and the Broncos are kind of my team to root for when the Bills get eliminated ... Now let's just get rid of Brady and Rodgers (Brees? He can stay a few more years) and bring on the young guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 The Texans OL performed poorly, and their ground game looked nonexistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) I just wish we'd blitz more. Frazier plays too passive defensively. This game was close because of the pressure Bowles defense generated. Edited December 16, 2018 by jkeerie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Just now, jkeerie said: I just wish we'd blitz more. Frazier plays too passive defensively. This game was close because if the pressure Bowles defense generated. Frazier sucks. I don't know why he's not under more fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumblinstumblin Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No doubt! Fan of both teams, and I have to say that it is a close call. Both certainly bottom 4. Texans need even just a mediocre offensive line and one good cornerback and they should be one of the top elite teams possibly next season Edited December 16, 2018 by mimisnowball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Hopkins is the receiver everyone thought Watkins could be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 The Bills never even got a pressure on Darnold, much less a sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Just now, par73 said: The Bills never even got a pressure on Darnold, much less a sack. Watt, Clowney, and Mercilus! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I’m betting I have watched more games than you.. Allen has not had a better game this year than Darnolds last two Minnesota? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, mimisnowball said: Fan of both teams, and I have to say that it is a close call. Both certainly bottom 4. Texans need even just a mediocre offensive line and one good cornerback and they should be one of the top elite teams possibly next season Agree both bottom 4. The worst 3 offensive lines in football right now are very clearly Houston, Buffalo and Arizona. After thar there is a cluster - Oakland, Giants, Vikings, Bengals who all have 1 or good players trying to carry the load for the whole line. The two tackles the Raiders keep putting on the field week after week might be the worst pair of starting offensive tackles I have ever seen watching the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MILFHUNTER#518 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Watt, Clowney, and Mercilus! What a rotation! Those dudes were relentless! Jets D were impressive as well, monster pressure on Watson... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Why did I find myself cheering the Jets on? I'm not supposed to pull for divisional rivals. It's a thing I find fascinating about sports. I turned this game on having no rooting interest whatsoever, plus I really like Deshaun Watson, Hopkins, etc. Whatever. I think I'm hoping all the rookie QBs play well. Enjoying this changing of the guard. I'll be rooting for Baker Mayfield in a few minutes here even though I live in Colorado and the Broncos are kind of my team to root for when the Bills get eliminated ... Now let's just get rid of Brady and Rodgers (Brees? He can stay a few more years) and bring on the young guns. I was rooting for the Jets to lose draft position and somehow keep Bowles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Frazier sucks. I don't know why he's not under more fire. idk if he sucks, but McD did better with play calls. If I recall correctly, he was a bit more aggressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Just now, HappyDays said: I was rooting for the Jets to lose draft position and somehow keep Bowles. Even better ... there WAS something rational about my rooting for the Jets. Maybe I also wanted to summon that "Spagnola" guy who used to pop up here twice a year ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Frankish Reich Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Agree both bottom 4. The worst 3 offensive lines in football right now are very clearly Houston, Buffalo and Arizona. After thar there is a cluster - Oakland, Giants, Vikings, Bengals who all have 1 or good players trying to carry the load for the whole line. The two tackles the Raiders keep putting on the field week after week might be the worst pair of starting offensive tackles I have ever seen watching the NFL. 1. Cards. Somehow even worse than the Bills, and I don't think it's that close. 2. Bills. 3. Raiders. 4. Vikings. 5. Texans (maybe?) Giants seem to be getting better. Not only is Barkley making things happen; Eli also seems to have a bit of time to go through his progressions now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Just now, The Frankish Reich said: 1. Cards. Somehow even worse than the Bills, and I don't think it's that close. 2. Bills. 3. Raiders. 4. Vikings. 5. Texans (maybe?) Giants seem to be getting better. Not only is Barkley making things happen; Eli also seems to have a bit of time to go through his progressions now. If you think Texans are only the 5th worst you should watch more of them. Seriously. The all22 is brutal. 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Bowles left his flag at home. He ahould have challenged the 3rd and 1 that the Jets RB clearly made as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: If you think Texans are only the 5th worst you should watch more of them. Seriously. The all22 is brutal. It's a horrendous offensive line for sure, but there seems to be a strange seemingly contradictory thing that comes with mobile QB's. While they're able to buy time, they're also moving around and not getting the ball out as quick as pure pocket passers. I think Watson makes his line look better and worse somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Just now, LSHMEAB said: It's a horrendous offensive line for sure, but there seems to be a strange seemingly contradictory thing that comes with mobile QB's. While they're able to buy time, they're also moving around and not getting the ball out as quick as pure pocket passers. I think Watson makes his line look better and worse somehow. Yes, they do have Watson and Hopkins, and that helps. But don't forget run blocking. Lamar Miller: 4.8 yards/carry (a 90 yarder will help with that). LeSean McCoy: 3.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: It's a horrendous offensive line for sure, but there seems to be a strange seemingly contradictory thing that comes with mobile QB's. While they're able to buy time, they're also moving around and not getting the ball out as quick as pure pocket passers. I think Watson makes his line look better and worse somehow. There is something in the fact that he will hold it and try and make a play, definitely, but when you watch the all22 of their line there are 3 and 4 guys losing their 1 on 1s almost every snap. A bit like Buffalo there is one guy I would say on that line you can comfortably pencil in as a starter next year. For them it is Mancz for us it is Dawkins. And neither of them are top players, they are just solid NFL starter level. 10 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Yes, they do have Watson and Hopkins, and that helps. But don't forget run blocking. Lamar Miller: 4.8 yards/carry (a 90 yarder will help with that). LeSean McCoy: 3.3 Oh I think Houston's overall offense is better, no doubt. They have more talent. The offensive line is worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 36 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Glad HOU was able to hang on. Anything that works against the Pats, even if just slightly. I was torn between that and rooting for the Bills draft slot improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I was torn between that and rooting for the Bills draft slot improvement. Yeah, understandable. I always consider that if you aren’t drafting a QB, a slot or two of draft position at the top of the order won’t matter too much. I’m more worried about those doing the drafting. It makes it a bit easier than worrying about draft order. However, I always have concern about the playoff slotting as I just despise New England. Here’s a question: what is your thought on the LA Chargers and their stadium atmosphere/ attendance? I’m almost thinking I should pull for the Chargers to get the #1 seed rather than KC. Trouble is, I think a game @ LAC might be a sort of road “ home game” for NE with Pats fans buying all the seats. JetBlue flights to LAX are pretty cheap. Edited December 16, 2018 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: What a rotation! Those dudes were relentless! Jets D were impressive as well, monster pressure on Watson... our D did better! lol we were really impressive that game, on the road too. Wonder what happens if Allen didn't get hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: our D did better! lol we were really impressive that game, on the road too. Wonder what happens if Allen didn't get hurt So true. Allen is a beast. The ONLY QB i wish we could have taken is Mayfield. He would have fit in soooo perfectly here. But i am ok with Josh. He will be ok with a stronger supporting cast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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