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24 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

And I will again pose my one word favorite question Ms. Speaker regarding you not authorizing the State of the Union.  Why?

She's letting the Left call the shots. People like Rashida Tlaib (the one that called Trump a mf), Ilhan Omar (the Palestinian) and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who thinks if we go at night we can land on the sun.

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3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

... Is this like the El Paso claim third thing posted about (and Trump) that was all bull? 

if you don't want to believe a Yuma County Sheriff, i suppose.

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https://www.apnews.com/907837435bf04970823fac3a7f3149b2

 

TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) — A group of border sheriffs says that a border wall is only a sound bite and “not a cogent” public policy position that’s needed to secure the border.

The Southwestern Border Sheriff’s Coalition said in the Jan. 8 letter said the wall, which is at the center of the nation’s longest and ongoing partial government shutdown, has become a lightning rod of division that detracts from other approaches to securing the border.

But the problem lies in many other areas, like the understaffed ports of entry, said chairman Leon Wilmot, who is the sheriff in Yuma County, Arizona.

 

“We should not let partisan politics stand in the way of securing the border. It is clear we have done so for many decades and through several administrations. We need to secure the border for public safety, national security and human rights reasons,” Wilmot wrote.

Wilmot did not immediately return a call or email from The Associated Press.

His letter repeated what border sheriffs have long said: that a border wall is only part of a solution to a decades-long problem.

In fact, many more illegal drugs that come from Mexico do so through ports of entry, where all drivers and pedestrians make contact with a customs officer. Tunnels have also become increasingly common for smuggling drugs, and cartels have no shortage of creative means for getting their loads to the U.S.

Illegal border crossings are also at near-historic lows. The number of arrests that Border Patrol agents made last fiscal year was down by 80 percent compared with the height of illegal immigration in the 1990s and 2000s, even as the number of agents on the force doubled.

 

2 minutes ago, Foxx said:

if you don't want to believe a Yuma County Sheriff, i suppose.

Huh? 

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2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

https://www.apnews.com/907837435bf04970823fac3a7f3149b2

 

TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) — A group of border sheriffs says that a border wall is only a sound bite and “not a cogent” public policy position that’s needed to secure the border.

The Southwestern Border Sheriff’s Coalition said in the Jan. 8 letter said the wall, which is at the center of the nation’s longest and ongoing partial government shutdown, has become a lightning rod of division that detracts from other approaches to securing the border.

But the problem lies in many other areas, like the understaffed ports of entry, said chairman Leon Wilmot, who is the sheriff in Yuma County, Arizona.

 

“We should not let partisan politics stand in the way of securing the border. It is clear we have done so for many decades and through several administrations. We need to secure the border for public safety, national security and human rights reasons,” Wilmot wrote.

Wilmot did not immediately return a call or email from The Associated Press.

His letter repeated what border sheriffs have long said: that a border wall is only part of a solution to a decades-long problem.

In fact, many more illegal drugs that come from Mexico do so through ports of entry, where all drivers and pedestrians make contact with a customs officer. Tunnels have also become increasingly common for smuggling drugs, and cartels have no shortage of creative means for getting their loads to the U.S.

Illegal border crossings are also at near-historic lows. The number of arrests that Border Patrol agents made last fiscal year was down by 80 percent compared with the height of illegal immigration in the 1990s and 2000s, even as the number of agents on the force doubled. ...

 

so, your coming around to the idea that we should build a wall. congratulations, better late than never. :thumbsup:

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2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So she told them not to fund the wall! I see! 

Build a sound bite? Nope 

"what border sheriffs have long said: that a border wall is only part of a solution to a decades-long problem."

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6 minutes ago, Foxx said:

 

For anyone who wants to take a tumble down a very dark path, this is at the very tip of what Greg has been talking about for two years now.

 

When Greg states that there are individuals in Government who profit directly from human trafficking, and don't want that cash flow interrupted; this is what he's referencing.

 

The Democratic Party has deep financial ties to the government of Mexico, which is inextricably tied to the cartels.  The cartels funnel money to members of Congress through cutouts like ArizonaMafia, who then pursue policy agendas which are profitable to the cartels in order to enrich themselves.

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Just now, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

For anyone who wants to take a tumble down a very dark path, this is at the very tip of what Greg has been talking about for two years now.

 

When Greg states that there are individuals in Government who profit directly from human trafficking, and don't want that cash flow interrupted; this is what he's referencing.

 

The Democratic Party has deep financial ties to the government of Mexico, which is inextricably tied to the cartels.  The cartels funnel money to members of Congress through cutouts like ArizonaMafia, who then pursue policy agendas which are profitable to the cartels in order to enrich themselves.

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If the people ever realized how badly they, and the country, were being screwed over by the very same people who do the late night circuit talking about the "immorality" of Trump's border plans - and who was being harmed in the process (and how they were being harmed) - there would be heads on pikes all over DC, NYC, and LA. 

 

But that's why they've spent so much time, money, and effort weaponizing the media establishment... to prevent truth from coming out, or to make the truth easier to "mock" when it does. 

 

So many people are awake now, more than ever before in any of our lifetimes... but so many more are still deeply asleep.

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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

:beer:

 

If the people ever realized how badly they, and the country, were being screwed over by the very same people who do the late night circuit talking about the "immorality" of Trump's border plans - and who was being harmed in the process (and how they were being harmed) - there would be heads on pikes all over DC, NYC, and LA. 

 

 

Why would we put their heads on fish?  

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43 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

:beer:

 

If the people ever realized how badly they, and the country, were being screwed over by the very same people who do the late night circuit talking about the "immorality" of Trump's border plans - and who was being harmed in the process (and how they were being harmed) - there would be heads on pikes all over DC, NYC, and LA. 

 

But that's why they've spent so much time, money, and effort weaponizing the media establishment... to prevent truth from coming out, or to make the truth easier to "mock" when it does. 

 

So many people are awake now, more than ever before in any of our lifetimes... but so many more are still deeply asleep.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emiliano_Salinas

 

To give readers an idea of how deep the ties between the Mexican government and human trafficking are, I offer this for your consideration.  This is the son of a former President of Mexico.

 

From his Wiki:

 

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According to his biography, Salinas learned from a young age that hard work and dedication are critical to self-development. When he was a teenager, he took his studies seriously.[11]

 

 

Salinas has been a member of the executive board of Executive Success Programs (ESP) since 2009 and also serves as the vice president of ethics.[11][12] ESP's mission is to "help transform and, ultimately, be an expression of a noble human civilization."[13] ESP provides clients with personal and professional development programs to help people discover and develop their potential.[14]

 He helps the company by leading its sales force. He is a trained facilitator of ESP's patented technology called Rational Inquiry. He serves as head trainer and field trainer where he trains new salespeople. He is an owner of ESP offices in Mexico, Guadalajara and Los Angeles. He works with entrepreneurs, athletes, politicians, and actors.[11]

 ESP is part of the NXIVM group. According to Latin Business Daily, on April 12, 2018 "Emiliano Salinas and his business partner Alejandro Betancourt cut ties with the Executive Success Programs (ESP) methodology and NXIVM. The two immediately ended their operational management services agreement with the company."[15]

 

 

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51 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Goddammit, this isn't difficult: centrist Dems, get Hoyer to join you and talk to centrist Republicans.  Agree on $2B in funding for the wall.  Centrist Dems and Hoyer force it down Pelosi's throat.  Dems and centrist Republicans pass partial funding with a veto-proof majority.  Trump and Pelosi can go pound sand up their asses.

 

What is SO.  *****.  HARD.  About that?  Not even asking them to be adult.  Be THIRD GRADERS, learning to share their toys at recess.      

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1 hour ago, Foxx said:

oh, that is rich. the anarchist in me loves this.

:lol:

 

ETA: the article is from October of '16?

 

Given that it's reversing a trend of Spanish government ***** up the economy since 1588, I think we can forgive the story being a couple years old.

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Just now, 3rdnlng said:

Wasn't that the year of the Spanish Armada off England?

 

Yep.  

 

Not completely accurate - Philip's Dutch adventures forced him in to bankruptcy about 10 years earlier.  But his inability to keep the English from looting treasure fleets (he went bankrupt while looting the New World) and batshit crazy idea to invade England with no funding, is a very convenient touchpoint for Spanish governmental incompetence.

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6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Oh God, someone's going to invite Nathan Phillips as their SOTU guest, aren't they?

 

 

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'You do realize that Pelosi cancelled the SOTU in the House chambers because Trump almost certainly would have invited Sandmann as his Lenny Skutnik...

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14 hours ago, B-Man said:

It's a great idea, open the government and we will have a vote Trump will easily lose. Love it! 

 

The Democratic wave that hit DC in 2018 isn't going to back down to Trump's hostage taking tactics. This is not how negotiations work. Trump is having a little temper tantrum over his stupid wall and closes the government? 

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Oh! This will teach the Deep State! 

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“FBI agents have lost irreplaceable sources. Joint Terrorism Task Force officers can’t get into the bureau’s computer systems. Federal investigations are being stymied by a lack of resources. The partial government shutdown, now in its 33rd day, has become a serious national-security threat, the FBI Agents Association said on Tuesday. All of that make us a heck of a lot less safe. Over the past several weeks, the association has been compiling stories from agents about the the shutdown’s impact on the bureau’s operations."

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/01/fbi-agents-say-operations-compromised-shutdown/581014/

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? UPDATE -

 

For a *third* time, House Democrats have killed a GOP effort to pay federal workers during the shutdown.

 

Given the attention lavished on R's breaking w/ POTUS, perhaps it's noteworthy that Pelosi's defections have swelled from 6 to 10 to 13:

 

 

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BREAKING: Unexpectedly, the press pool just got called to gather. Trump wants to say something.

 

 

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WH says Trump is demanding “a large down payment on the wall” before he would agree to a 3-week short-term spending bill to reopen the government. McConnell and Schumer meeting now to see whether they can work out of the deadlock.

 

 

 

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